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LetMyPeopleVote

(181,175 posts)
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 12:39 PM Oct 2025

MaddowBlog-Republicans, 16 years into Obamacare, pretend they have a health care plan (they don't)

Asked if his party has a health care blueprint, JD Vance boasted, “We do have a plan, actually.” Stop me if you’ve heard this one before.

When JD Vance said Republicans “actually” have a health care plan, he was obviously lying.

What might not be as obvious is just how long we’ve been waiting for that plan. Would you believe that the first GOP "guarantee" about the party's ACA alternative came in June 2009?

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-10-17T17:40:18.876Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/republicans-16-years-obamacare-pretend-health-care-plan-dont-rcna238212

This week, the House speaker boasted to CNBC, “We’ve got pages and pages and pages of ideas of how to reform health care.” What are the ideas included on those pages? The Louisiana Republican didn’t say.

A day later, JD Vance appeared on Newsmax and was asked whether his party has a health care plan. “We do have a plan, actually,” the vice president replied.

VAN SUSTEREN: Does the administration have a healthcare plan?

JD VANCE: We do have a plan, actually ... to pretend we can fix such a complicated system, that logic is probably what led to the original Obamacare disaster.

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-10-17T12:30:29.630Z


.....The same week, then-House Minority Whip Eric Cantor told reporters that the official Republican version of “Obamacare” was just “weeks away.”

That was 833 weeks ago. There’s still no bill......

And then, of course, there’s Donald Trump, who famously declared during last year’s campaign, “I have concepts of a plan,” following several years’ worth of rhetoric about the unveiling of his plan being just “two weeks” away.

It’s against this backdrop that Vance apparently wants the public to believe that he and his party “do have a plan, actually.”

Maybe we’ll see it right around the time Team Trump releases the Epstein files, the tape of border czar Tom Homan accepting $50,000 in cash in a Cava bag, the president’s tax returns and the administration’s evidence to bolster its deadly military strikes on civilian boats in international waters.
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MaddowBlog-Republicans, 16 years into Obamacare, pretend they have a health care plan (they don't) (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2025 OP
833 weeks ? dweller Oct 2025 #1
LOL Trump promised a great plan in 2016 leftstreet Oct 2025 #2
It's the same plan they've had all along: get sick and just die already. Nothing's changed, or will. mucholderthandirt Oct 2025 #3
There is a plan. Here it is: The Madcap Oct 2025 #4
The plan is to go back to where it was in 2004... haele Oct 2025 #5

leftstreet

(41,155 posts)
2. LOL Trump promised a great plan in 2016
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 12:47 PM
Oct 2025

It was the Healthcare Reform to Make America Great Again

Tax deductible premiums
Allowing insurers to sell across state lines
Block grants for Medicaid
Some other stuff

LOL where it at?

mucholderthandirt

(1,789 posts)
3. It's the same plan they've had all along: get sick and just die already. Nothing's changed, or will.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 01:08 PM
Oct 2025

They hate the ACA because people are getting healthcare and not dying off fast enough to suit them. It's why they hate Medicare and Medicaid, too. My conspiracy theory was that Covid was a test run to see how many old and sick they could get rid of, cheaply and quickly. Been waiting for the upgrade for years now. It's coming.

The Madcap

(1,965 posts)
4. There is a plan. Here it is:
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 01:16 PM
Oct 2025

1. No one gets insurance except the uber-wealthy.
2. Work...every day...all day...
3. Get sick.
4. Die
5. Call Corpse Disposal, i.e., the trash truck.

That is all.

haele

(15,512 posts)
5. The plan is to go back to where it was in 2004...
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 01:29 PM
Oct 2025

Let the insurance companies run their business the way they see fit with high deductibles and limits to coverage:
saddling all but the top 1% with Medical Debt if they become disabled, sick or injured, seize their assets,
and then - then let a "court" bankruptcy board decide if you're physically capable enough for a disability/workhouse house to pay off those debts, or let you linger and die in a sanitarium camp somewhere.

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