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Asked if his party has a health care blueprint, JD Vance boasted, We do have a plan, actually. Stop me if youve heard this one before.
When JD Vance said Republicans âactuallyâ have a health care plan, he was obviously lying.
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-10-17T17:40:18.876Z
What might not be as obvious is just how long weâve been waiting for that plan. Would you believe that the first GOP "guarantee" about the party's ACA alternative came in June 2009?
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/republicans-16-years-obamacare-pretend-health-care-plan-dont-rcna238212
A day later, JD Vance appeared on Newsmax and was asked whether his party has a health care plan. We do have a plan, actually, the vice president replied.
VAN SUSTEREN: Does the administration have a healthcare plan?
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-10-17T12:30:29.630Z
JD VANCE: We do have a plan, actually ... to pretend we can fix such a complicated system, that logic is probably what led to the original Obamacare disaster.
.....The same week, then-House Minority Whip Eric Cantor told reporters that the official Republican version of Obamacare was just weeks away.
That was 833 weeks ago. Theres still no bill......
And then, of course, theres Donald Trump, who famously declared during last years campaign, I have concepts of a plan, following several years worth of rhetoric about the unveiling of his plan being just two weeks away.
Its against this backdrop that Vance apparently wants the public to believe that he and his party do have a plan, actually.
Maybe well see it right around the time Team Trump releases the Epstein files, the tape of border czar Tom Homan accepting $50,000 in cash in a Cava bag, the presidents tax returns and the administrations evidence to bolster its deadly military strikes on civilian boats in international waters.
dweller
(28,672 posts)My god thats 416.5 2 weeks agos !1!
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leftstreet
(41,248 posts)It was the Healthcare Reform to Make America Great Again
Tax deductible premiums
Allowing insurers to sell across state lines
Block grants for Medicaid
Some other stuff
LOL where it at?
mucholderthandirt
(1,791 posts)They hate the ACA because people are getting healthcare and not dying off fast enough to suit them. It's why they hate Medicare and Medicaid, too. My conspiracy theory was that Covid was a test run to see how many old and sick they could get rid of, cheaply and quickly. Been waiting for the upgrade for years now. It's coming.
The Madcap
(2,031 posts)1. No one gets insurance except the uber-wealthy.
2. Work...every day...all day...
3. Get sick.
4. Die
5. Call Corpse Disposal, i.e., the trash truck.
That is all.
haele
(15,593 posts)Let the insurance companies run their business the way they see fit with high deductibles and limits to coverage:
saddling all but the top 1% with Medical Debt if they become disabled, sick or injured, seize their assets,
and then - then let a "court" bankruptcy board decide if you're physically capable enough for a disability/workhouse house to pay off those debts, or let you linger and die in a sanitarium camp somewhere.
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