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I can't post this enough: (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2025 OP
I am laughing but have sad tears in my eyes. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #1
I was too old for Sesame Street but I did catch the odd muppet show. Not often applegrove Oct 2025 #2
Same here, but the Rainbow Connection song became a pop culture icon. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #3
So many things from Sesame Street became popular culture icons. applegrove Oct 2025 #4
yes I am surprised Trump hasn't trashed and denigrated it. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #5
I really love the Kermit Frog Resistance video. I play it again and again. applegrove Oct 2025 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #7
It makes me cry. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #8
If my country was going through what yours is, the Frog Resistance applegrove Oct 2025 #11
Yes the beautiful song transposed over brutal Nazi terror here in the US. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #12
Yes. I lived in Montreal twice. We had a cottage in Quebec growing applegrove Oct 2025 #13
I love Montreal but my heart is in Quebec City. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #14
Some day I will get back to Quebec City. I was there when I was 11/12 applegrove Oct 2025 #15
Oh yes, do take a trip to QC. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #16
The women were called "Filles Du Roi". I would not go there in applegrove Oct 2025 #17
Yes that is correct. Filles du roi. King's daughters. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #18
The french immersion programs were for english applegrove Oct 2025 #19
Miller and co haven't told him about it yet. ananda Oct 2025 #9
Good. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #10

Irish_Dem

(81,189 posts)
1. I am laughing but have sad tears in my eyes.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 08:20 PM
Oct 2025

This is one of my favorite songs.
And to see it intertwined with evil and destruction is sad.
But funny too.

What a damn crazy world we live in now.

applegrove

(132,149 posts)
2. I was too old for Sesame Street but I did catch the odd muppet show. Not often
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:39 AM
Oct 2025

as I was not allowed to watch much tv but I remember that sweet song. You are right. It makes me feel nostalgic for a better, simpler time.

Irish_Dem

(81,189 posts)
5. yes I am surprised Trump hasn't trashed and denigrated it.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 06:00 PM
Oct 2025

Anything special and beloved, he has to ruin.

Funny you answered, I was just listening to Kermit sing the Rainbow connection again.

applegrove

(132,149 posts)
6. I really love the Kermit Frog Resistance video. I play it again and again.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 06:06 PM
Oct 2025

I love the live audience responce to the video.

Response to applegrove (Reply #6)

applegrove

(132,149 posts)
11. If my country was going through what yours is, the Frog Resistance
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:44 PM
Oct 2025

would make me cry too.

Irish_Dem

(81,189 posts)
12. Yes the beautiful song transposed over brutal Nazi terror here in the US.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:46 PM
Oct 2025

The destruction of a once proud nation.

I was thinking about Canada today.
Wishing I could go back to Quebec and just stay there.
I was there the summer before last and miss it.

applegrove

(132,149 posts)
13. Yes. I lived in Montreal twice. We had a cottage in Quebec growing
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:00 PM
Oct 2025

up. It is a great place. They are no fools and voted for Liberal Carney for Prime Minister when Trump tried to take us over last winter/spring. Parts of Ontario voted for the Conservatives (Poilievre is echoing Trump memes as leader of the opposition these days). Now Carney's numbers are even higher after he won a minority government.

Quebec has kept us honest as a country... often voting Liberal and reminding us that not everything always goes your way as a country... that you have to compromise. Purity is not Canadian thing except in Alberta. Quebec has given us many things like subsidized childcare (they proved that when costed out over a generation it resulted in net tax income for the Governments).

Then there is the culture and the food. And the young people of every heritage kissing on the Metro (subway) which I thought was so Montreal. And when I tried to speak French I got such encouragement from the locals.

I read today that the Quebec Sovereignty may be a thing again in the years to come which makes my heart sink. Canada would lose so much if we lost Quebec.

Irish_Dem

(81,189 posts)
14. I love Montreal but my heart is in Quebec City.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:22 PM
Oct 2025

The old walled city. I walk all over the old city.
Visit the churches, pray, sightsee all the old buildings and convents, etc.
Eat and mingle.

Yes the Quebec population is a very unique group.
Hundreds of years with a small population facing brutal conditions
forged a determined, practical survival mindset. Poverty forged a desire
for a better life.

Each family had 20 children and they married cousins over and over.
So everyone is related which makes for a peaceful and cooperative population.

I speak some French and they are nice about it. I have a conversation about
how bad my French is and they laugh.

In my opinion, Quebec will do what loads on their survival and prosperity.
They are a quietly proud people but not vain or foolish. Yes at times you see glimpses of
the hotheads, but I believe practically will rule the day.

Now is not the time to disconnect from a protective power source in the rest of Canada.
The world is getting more dangerous so they best hang on for the time being.

Unless of course the rest of Canada is puling them down badly.

My .02.

applegrove

(132,149 posts)
15. Some day I will get back to Quebec City. I was there when I was 11/12
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:32 PM
Oct 2025

on a school exchange.

There is a National Film Board of Canada film on the separation battles between Quebec and Canada in the 1970s. It was called "Champions". It was about a separatist leader Rene Levesque battleling PM of Canada Pierre Elliot Trudeau. They both wanted the best for their people. Levesque wasn't a demagogue who demonized the other side. He simply wanted what was best for his people and not to manipulate his people. Two men with integrity fighting. It was a documentary that made me cry when I saw it in my early 20s. You could probably get it for free online. I think Donald Britton was the narrator/producer.

Irish_Dem

(81,189 posts)
16. Oh yes, do take a trip to QC.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:02 PM
Oct 2025

I have been there a number of times over the years and was shocked
two years ago by how commercial and crowded it has become. And how warm
the weather is.

If you go, try to avoid the crowded summer travel.
But it is still doable if that is the only time you can go.

I took a trip to Montreal and QC in the early 70's and met some of the
separatist young people. They were ardent about their cause.
I thought they might pull it off, but in the end they did not. I was still
in college and the young men were handsome and well spoken.
Dedicated to their cause. But they had time to flirt with American college girls.

BTW when you go to QC you will notice how good looking the women are there.
Historically the French King emptied the French orphanages to
send brides to the lonely French men in Quebec. The boats with the women
arrived in QC first, then on to Montreal. The men in QC got first pick of the most
beautiful women which you can still notice today.

applegrove

(132,149 posts)
17. The women were called "Filles Du Roi". I would not go there in
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:43 PM
Oct 2025

summer as I hear it is crowded. Maybe this time of year.

A good friend of my Dad's and a local Member of Provincial Parliament in Quebec came out as a separatist in the early 1970s. It was a big wedge in their relationship for 15 - 20 years. My dad's peeps in establishment Ottawa fought separatism by instituting the first French immersion kindergardens and public schools to make English Canada bilingual. The first French Immersion classes were started a year ahead of me in my public school, a school that had or was to become an army base when terrorism started happening in Quebec. All the members of parliament had soldiers in bushes in front of their houses as my brother found out when he went to ring the door of an MP whose daughter was having a birthday party my sister was attending. Those same MPs and all the people in our suburban village where the senior public servants and politicians lived pushed for that program. French Immersion schools are popular to this day across the country. The cherry on top is that learning a second language to a young child helps development of their brains by showing them what a 'concept' is versus a 'word' which the French immersion of people who come from English backgrounds learn at a young age. I remember being in grade one and knew what the French word for "bridge" was when my teacher asked. Because I knew the song "sur le pont d'Avingnon, on y dance, on y dance" and I knew the English "on the bridge d'Avingnon, shall we dance" and had an aha moment. My teacher was pleased with me. So when you do a good thing you never know what good things come from it.

That time you talk about in the late 60s, early 70s in Quebec was a golden age for young visionaries in North America. Older Quebecers talk of it fondly. I know my dad's friend's friends did talk of it with pride one dinner I went to at their farm in the mid 1980s.

Irish_Dem

(81,189 posts)
18. Yes that is correct. Filles du roi. King's daughters.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 10:05 PM
Oct 2025

Yes learning a second language in childhood assists in better brain development.

Yes it was an exciting time to visit Quebec and go out on a date with a separatist.
But yes there was a scary dangerous backdrop that worried me.
But yes I clearly remember the visionary part. The dream of a better world.
A world where they would not be swallowed up by the British Canadians.

It is amazing to see the current day bilingual interaction in Quebec.
Without missing a beat those in Quebec switch from French to English
and back to French in a nanosecond!

applegrove

(132,149 posts)
19. The french immersion programs were for english
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 10:25 PM
Oct 2025

students in the rest of Canada. A big 'if you stay you will be able to communicate with you in your native tongue'. Not so much promotion if the English language in Quebec. They have laws there that say the name of your business has to be French and you can't go to school in English in Quebec unless your parents went to English school back in the day. They have done much to shore up their language and though maybe it doesn't seem fair, it is about keeping their language alive. Keep in mind that in the late 1800s Montreal was a third Irish and English speakers and the Scottish Canadians had lots of the wealth. You seemed to only be able to run a small business if you spoke French. The quiet revolution and then the 1970s were a long time coming.

ananda

(35,118 posts)
9. Miller and co haven't told him about it yet.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 06:30 PM
Oct 2025

So he doesn't have the talking points to create
his demented ideas with.

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