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EnergizedLib

(3,025 posts)
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 07:55 PM Oct 2025

I'm so sick of the Dem bashing

So, so sick of it.

I hear we won't have power back ever again, that we won't win in 2026 or 2028, or the next three presidential cycles or hold office for the rest of the 21st Century.

When it did become so toxic to be a Democrat? What makes us the bad guys when healthcare prices are on the verge of rising, social programs are being cut, upended, eliminated? The United States is on the Human Rights Watchlist, our debt and deficit aren't getting any lower, they're being added to, and even though the felon's polling is underwater, it doesn't look good for us.

Are trans people that hated? Do people really want and like dictatorships? I see people disapprove of us saying we don't fight back, now we're fighting back with the shutdown, and while more people still blame Republicans, the gap has closed.

I mean, we are winning or overperforming in special elections, and I think we've got a good chance at winning two governorships in November.

It's like, the majority people aren't enamored with trump or trump's policies, but they don't want us to put a stop to it.

All these articles I see, all these comments on social media - negative, negative, negative, negative.

Enough.

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I'm so sick of the Dem bashing (Original Post) EnergizedLib Oct 2025 OP
Is it bashing or constructive discussion about how to win the war being fought? Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #1
Based on the perception I get EnergizedLib Oct 2025 #2
Yes but that is enemy propaganda. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #3
I have seen trolls actively divide this forum. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #5
I'm not trying to troll EnergizedLib Oct 2025 #6
Oh EL, I was not implying that at all. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #9
Yes, we have quite a few trolls here. ananda Oct 2025 #7
It's a coup and it's against us - they see us as the enemy not the loyal opposition Blues Heron Oct 2025 #4
The RW propaganda machine is on 24 by 7 by 365 by years and years. usonian Oct 2025 #8
Another thing I hate EnergizedLib Oct 2025 #10
Bernie and AOC are wildly popular with regular people. usonian Oct 2025 #11
Bernie Polybius Oct 2025 #13
Relatively low, as such things go... Jack Valentino Oct 2025 #16
We need to start calling them the very far right racist nazi-like extremists which they ARE, Jack Valentino Oct 2025 #15
Maybe you're on the wrong social media, or following the wrong people---- Jack Valentino Oct 2025 #12
That's good EnergizedLib Oct 2025 #18
Yes, I'm still on Twitter also.... but even there don't see much anti-Dem action Jack Valentino Oct 2025 #19
The truth is when the Supreme Court guts the Voting Rights Tribetime Oct 2025 #14
I hope that won't happen, or EnergizedLib Oct 2025 #17
We need to plan for it now and redistrict everywhere we can Tribetime Oct 2025 #20

Irish_Dem

(81,189 posts)
1. Is it bashing or constructive discussion about how to win the war being fought?
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 07:57 PM
Oct 2025

In the military all opinions are heard to develop a strategy.
Then there is consensus and we are in it to win it.

EnergizedLib

(3,025 posts)
2. Based on the perception I get
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 08:00 PM
Oct 2025

The right wing propaganda machine has made it seem like the party is radioactive and any candidate is damaged by just having a D next to their name - never mind tariffs, jobs, economy, prices, etc.

Irish_Dem

(81,189 posts)
3. Yes but that is enemy propaganda.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 08:12 PM
Oct 2025

It is not reality.

Here I see people mostly giving constructive criticism and honest good faith attempts
to win the war being waged in the US.

But I see people clutching their pearls and falling on the fainting couch.
Most people are not geared to winning a war, because war is hell.
They see a magical easy win.

Irish_Dem

(81,189 posts)
5. I have seen trolls actively divide this forum.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 08:23 PM
Oct 2025

It has been so ugly.

But I have not seen that lately.
Just well intended people trying to win a war.

Irish_Dem

(81,189 posts)
9. Oh EL, I was not implying that at all.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 08:30 PM
Oct 2025

I know it is a heart felt discussion and concern on your part.

Optimism is good and necessary.

We are all afraid. For good reason.

But some of us are getting in the ugly deep weeds to win the war and restore our country.
We have to face some very cold harsh realities and not flinch.
It is not for the weak of stomach for sure.

But everyone does their part to the best of their ability and it all counts in the end.

ananda

(35,118 posts)
7. Yes, we have quite a few trolls here.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 08:29 PM
Oct 2025

It's not hard to suss out a post for trolling, either.

One thing they do is try to appear very nice, but
they have a way of both sidesing or else defending
something we all know is deeply wrong.

Blues Heron

(8,808 posts)
4. It's a coup and it's against us - they see us as the enemy not the loyal opposition
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 08:19 PM
Oct 2025

They’re all in on it - musk, bezos, Murdoch, all the oligarchs, nyt, etc. that’s why they put us down

usonian

(25,196 posts)
8. The RW propaganda machine is on 24 by 7 by 365 by years and years.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 08:29 PM
Oct 2025

The Democratic message goes out a few months every 2 years AFTER everyone blesses it.

BIG LOSE

The core message is DAMN SIMPLE. Bernie and AOC have been beating this drum all over the country including red districts to great acclaim.

Here's one post that links to others.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20648934

Democracy is a full time job. Not a long snooze and a short sprint.

EnergizedLib

(3,025 posts)
10. Another thing I hate
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 08:41 PM
Oct 2025

Is the notion Democrats must move more to the center, more to the middle, be more moderate, while Republicans can go so far right off a cliff and nobody blinks an eye.

usonian

(25,196 posts)
11. Bernie and AOC are wildly popular with regular people.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 08:48 PM
Oct 2025

How many millionaires showed up Saturday?

One?

Jack Valentino

(4,979 posts)
15. We need to start calling them the very far right racist nazi-like extremists which they ARE,
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 09:04 PM
Oct 2025

and STOP calling them the Republican "party" which they are NOT,
and start calling them the Republican Criminal- Fascist-Terrorist Nazi-wannabe Organization,
which they ARE.

They really whine the loudest when Democrats compare them
to Nazis, fascists and the Gestapo---
and THAT should tell us that we are "hitting the bullseye" with those characterizations !!!!


Jack Valentino

(4,979 posts)
12. Maybe you're on the wrong social media, or following the wrong people----
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 08:57 PM
Oct 2025

I'm on Instagram, for instance, and all I see is 24-7 posts against Trump and the Republicans!
Practically NEVER even see any anti-Democratic posts!

What we need is even MORE Democrats fighting back on social media,
and attacking the Republican "brand"--- for instance,

ALL REPUBLICANS ARE LIARS ! Teach your children!

The NAZI-REPUBLICANS are NOT a political party,
but a terrorist criminal pedophile-protecting organization!

and

RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!

EnergizedLib

(3,025 posts)
18. That's good
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 09:20 PM
Oct 2025

I pretty much do have to be on Elon’s toxic echo chamber for my job. I don’t tweet about politics, but I do like comments and block countless MAGAs.

Jack Valentino

(4,979 posts)
19. Yes, I'm still on Twitter also.... but even there don't see much anti-Dem action
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 09:30 PM
Oct 2025

probably because of the majority of people whom I follow.


I do my best to troll magats with #MAGA tags, but rarely get any response from them at all....

Tribetime

(7,145 posts)
14. The truth is when the Supreme Court guts the Voting Rights
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 09:01 PM
Oct 2025

Act it will make it extremely rough to win in 2026 unless we can change things

Tribetime

(7,145 posts)
20. We need to plan for it now and redistrict everywhere we can
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 09:45 PM
Oct 2025

Along with running candidates that can win in the south

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