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Botany

(77,524 posts)
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:22 AM Oct 2025

Please tell me this is all a bad dream.

Trump is is tearing down the East Wing of the White House in order to build an unneeded
ballroom that is almost 50% larger than the original White House and the first drawings
of the interior of the building has shit tons of gold crap.*

Where are the crowds with pitchforks and torches?


* https://democraticunderground.com/100220742593

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Please tell me this is all a bad dream. (Original Post) Botany Oct 2025 OP
The psyop has entered the real world with stormtroopers and collaborators galore. rzemanfl Oct 2025 #1
Felon-47 could destroy every monument in DC 31st Street Bridge Oct 2025 #31
He literally enjoys when his actions hurt Democrats. n/t forgotmylogin Oct 2025 #41
The majority of Americans appear to like it or don't care. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #2
We will deserve our demise. LuvLoogie Oct 2025 #3
We found out it was all a house of cards, a mirage. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #4
Held together by SOME far B.See Oct 2025 #6
They assumed people would always want to be free. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #8
Hate to say it but it is a twisted Karma visiting us IbogaProject Oct 2025 #35
I will never for a second believe this country honestly & fairly elected him. BComplex Oct 2025 #43
I agree. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #44
He had help from friends in low places. czarjak Oct 2025 #53
No We Don't, Despite the USA's flaws. A serious % of us still try to improve it! electric_blue68 Oct 2025 #32
I hear you. I just don't think we are up to it collectively as a people. LuvLoogie Oct 2025 #37
Facts are facts. A majority of the US population loves Trump or doesn't care. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #49
Yes markodochartaigh Oct 2025 #47
They will pay a very high price for their slumber. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #55
Our silence is his favorite sound Farmer-Rick Oct 2025 #5
"protests every week.......you know in the end we will have to have them every day." Botany Oct 2025 #13
that's sorta' how I started a protest NJCher Oct 2025 #19
Good on you! electric_blue68 Oct 2025 #33
Absolutely! yellow dahlia Oct 2025 #26
I was listening to Dr. Gartner about Trump's mental condition-- viva la Oct 2025 #7
he's the guy from Shrinking Trump NJCher Oct 2025 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author yellow dahlia Oct 2025 #27
Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere... Escape Oct 2025 #9
No. I mentioned in another thread hoping the artifacts were labeled and stored safely so they txwhitedove Oct 2025 #14
A thing that I haven't seen mentioned is markodochartaigh Oct 2025 #48
The pot of water is boiling Martin Eden Oct 2025 #10
We are eating cake Puppyjive Oct 2025 #11
He also wants to build himself an arch Ohioboy Oct 2025 #12
We are going to need warriors to stop that nonsense. A human shield if you like. Botany Oct 2025 #15
Oh, That Arch Will Be Built ColoringFool Oct 2025 #16
Yes, we are enduring a continual living nightmare. ananda Oct 2025 #17
Last night I looked at CNN briefly and saw yorkster Oct 2025 #18
Once El Trumpi departs... BH liberal Oct 2025 #21
And don't forget he is demanding $230 million for all the pain and suffering he experienced with the kimbutgar Oct 2025 #22
His serious mental decline is on display for only asking for $230 million. rubbersole Oct 2025 #23
"Where are the crowds with pitchforks and torches?" Wednesdays Oct 2025 #24
Once the supposed conservatives realize what is going on, yellow dahlia Oct 2025 #29
Sooo, the white house still gives tours Farmer-Rick Oct 2025 #36
Hmm...back in summer ? '93, or '94 I didn't need to contact my Congress person...I think I did go to a separate... electric_blue68 Oct 2025 #52
Yeah, I didn't go through Farmer-Rick Oct 2025 #56
It's infuriating! electric_blue68 Oct 2025 #57
We are all bothered by this! KS Toronado Oct 2025 #25
Thats bdamomma Oct 2025 #28
Botany, you have nailed it. gab13by13 Oct 2025 #30
I decided a long time ago that the day Orange Julius Caesar won the 2016 election that we had been hurled generalbetrayus Oct 2025 #34
Democrats need to run on tearing down the grotesque ballroom. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2025 #38
Where are the 'centrists?' nt RandiFan1290 Oct 2025 #39
Mel Brooks, "It's good to be da king" BigmanPigman Oct 2025 #40
It's alright... (sarcasm alert) Half-step Oct 2025 #42
By now, any street protests ancianita Oct 2025 #45
anytime... myohmy2 Oct 2025 #46
Working people are too busy holding down 2 jobs to pay for a pound of hamburger. SunSeeker Oct 2025 #50
He's flooding the world with hate, lies, chaos, crimes, violence and stupidity. ... Bread and Circuses Oct 2025 #51
Not even George Orwell could have imagined this nightmare scenario. Bluepinky Oct 2025 #54

rzemanfl

(31,409 posts)
1. The psyop has entered the real world with stormtroopers and collaborators galore.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:25 AM
Oct 2025

These people need to be stopped.

31st Street Bridge

(228 posts)
31. Felon-47 could destroy every monument in DC
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 12:29 PM
Oct 2025

...and nothing would be done. It's obvious that nothing short of revolution or mass secession will stop this assault on this former-nation. Signs and frog costumes didn't defeat Hitler.

Irish_Dem

(81,753 posts)
2. The majority of Americans appear to like it or don't care.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:34 AM
Oct 2025

30% love Trump and whatever he does is great with them.
30% don't care in the least.
30% care but have no power.

Irish_Dem

(81,753 posts)
4. We found out it was all a house of cards, a mirage.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:54 AM
Oct 2025

Held together with spit and a prayer.

B.See

(8,588 posts)
6. Held together by SOME far
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:07 AM
Oct 2025

nobler people who once had a dream, founded upon ideas like principles, duty, honour, and integrity.

Things Trump and his cult of fascists, Insurrectionists, anarchists, and saboteurs know NOTHING about.

'Deplorables' doesn't quite capture their... ESSENCE.

Irish_Dem

(81,753 posts)
8. They assumed people would always want to be free.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:10 AM
Oct 2025

To live in a democracy with rule of law, bill of rights, a constitution.

It did not occur to them that We The People would trash the entire system.
And elect a fascist leader.

yes greatest moral collapse in US history.

IbogaProject

(5,971 posts)
35. Hate to say it but it is a twisted Karma visiting us
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 01:37 PM
Oct 2025

The USA has overturned many governments and trained many secret police. Unfortunately the wealthy who benefited of that eport of evil are not the ones receiving this "Karma". I just hope it helps some or all of the rest of the world improve towards justice and compassion with our bully country being reduced in power.

BComplex

(9,930 posts)
43. I will never for a second believe this country honestly & fairly elected him.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:00 PM
Oct 2025

Not a chance in hell.

LuvLoogie

(8,851 posts)
37. I hear you. I just don't think we are up to it collectively as a people.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 02:24 PM
Oct 2025

The greed and the hate just consume and destroy. I am tired of protecting hateful stupid people from the manipulations of greed, sociopaths, narcissists, and Nazis. I mean members of my own fucking extended family voted for this and are still all in, waiting for JD.
I don't care about the racist farmers, I don't care about the corporate persons. They don't even consider you human if you aren't in their corner of the DNA diaspora or can add to their bottom line. The religious and racial bigotry are as chronic and metastasized as the gun culture/violence in America.

I will go down swinging and loving. But fuck the MAGA and their officials.

And fuck the Super Bowl. It's a Bad Bunny concert.

Irish_Dem

(81,753 posts)
49. Facts are facts. A majority of the US population loves Trump or doesn't care.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:45 PM
Oct 2025

One third of the US population voted for Trump. They like him and his crimes.
One third didn't vote at all, they don't give a damn.
One third voted for Harris.

So 2/3rds of the US population like Trump or don't care either way.
This is a majority of the US population.

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
47. Yes
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:35 PM
Oct 2025

this is the sort of bad dream a country has when one third of the electorate has been asleep.

Farmer-Rick

(12,713 posts)
5. Our silence is his favorite sound
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:59 AM
Oct 2025

He wants silent submission to all his demented ideas. I think we need protests every week.......you know in the end we will have to have them every day.

Botany

(77,524 posts)
13. "protests every week.......you know in the end we will have to have them every day."
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:33 AM
Oct 2025

Yup! I am going to stand on a street corner (E.N. Broadway and High Street in Columbus, OH @ noon
today) with my American Flag. We need to use the American Flag as our symbol of resistance and real patriotism.

NJCher

(43,281 posts)
19. that's sorta' how I started a protest
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:04 AM
Oct 2025

It was back when the rw nutz were harrassing the daylights out of Clinton. I went to the streets of downtown Newark with a sign and people joined me. Never mind their signs were made from a flap off a cardboard box, it was their presence that counted.

yellow dahlia

(6,125 posts)
26. Absolutely!
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:51 AM
Oct 2025

I say the same thing. Take back our symbols of patriotism.

I also think we need to keep the protests and visibility up. One or a few people is still a visibility event.

Mr. Dahlia and I attend a rally once week. We have been doing so since April.

I don't know anybody in Columbus - if I did I would suggest they join you.

viva la

(4,610 posts)
7. I was listening to Dr. Gartner about Trump's mental condition--
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:08 AM
Oct 2025

And he said that the next step would be for Trump to start doing catastrophic things because of his delusions of grandeur and dementia and sadism-- like taking out fishing boats with bombs. The sudden and unapproved destruction of the East Wing is another one. AND NO ONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE OR CONGRESS IS STOPPING HIM.

Response to viva la (Reply #7)

Escape

(484 posts)
9. Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere...
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:14 AM
Oct 2025

but, I wonder if any important documents----you know, EVIDENCE---is being discarded or destroyed in this spontaneous destruction of government property? What all did they smash, crash and throw out the window?

Looky there...I just started a new Conspiracy Theory....

txwhitedove

(4,391 posts)
14. No. I mentioned in another thread hoping the artifacts were labeled and stored safely so they
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:36 AM
Oct 2025

didn't end up at a golf course. Then again, in another thread there was a bit of a pile on by those saying it's just a building and not murdered people. I am just one old American in daily shock and grief over ALL of this lunacy.

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
48. A thing that I haven't seen mentioned is
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:45 PM
Oct 2025

the Presidential Communications Room under the East Wing. I wonder if Putin's communications experts will somehow get access to systems there.

Botany

(77,524 posts)
15. We are going to need warriors to stop that nonsense. A human shield if you like.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:54 AM
Oct 2025


Ice agents are the Indians working for the British with the clubs and the protesters are the American People opposed to Trump.

ColoringFool

(800 posts)
16. Oh, That Arch Will Be Built
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:58 AM
Oct 2025

Trump always telegraphs, either explicitly, implicitly, or by projection, what he is going to do.

He's already chosen his preference of the three mock-ups he was given. The largest, of course.

Here's hoping all the majestic horses in his Bigger Than Anyone's Ever funeral procession (you know there will be one) leading from the Arc de Trump to the Gilded Ballroom, defecate profusely in front of his hearse.

ananda

(35,283 posts)
17. Yes, we are enduring a continual living nightmare.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:00 AM
Oct 2025

I'd have a hard time thinking of a worse sleeping one.

yorkster

(3,877 posts)
18. Last night I looked at CNN briefly and saw
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:01 AM
Oct 2025

a mockup of the intended building. The picture was a closeup, so I couldn't tell if it was taken in the Offal Office. It conveyed more clearly than any rendering how massive this thing is.

As has been recently stated, it really does dwarf the White House.

BH liberal

(135 posts)
21. Once El Trumpi departs...
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:21 AM
Oct 2025

how often will the ballroom even be used? Since it won't be done for a long time, will Trump even be around to christen it?

kimbutgar

(27,340 posts)
22. And don't forget he is demanding $230 million for all the pain and suffering he experienced with the
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:28 AM
Oct 2025

Investigations, impeachments and convictions he experienced during his first reign of terror

rubbersole

(11,246 posts)
23. His serious mental decline is on display for only asking for $230 million.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:42 AM
Oct 2025

He got the Qatari jet ($400+ million) and billions in crypto bribes from the Middle East. C'mon donnie - get your head in the game! Ft Knox is all yours!

Wednesdays

(22,794 posts)
24. "Where are the crowds with pitchforks and torches?"
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:45 AM
Oct 2025

There was 8 million of us out on the streets last weekend. Even though we didn't bring pitchforks and torches.

yellow dahlia

(6,125 posts)
29. Once the supposed conservatives realize what is going on,
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 12:05 PM
Oct 2025

I wonder if they will react with something more than inflatable frog costumes and peace signs.

They're more of the pitchfork (weaponry) type. But then they would have to admit they are wrong.

Farmer-Rick

(12,713 posts)
36. Sooo, the white house still gives tours
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 02:01 PM
Oct 2025

You have to go through your Congress Critter to get it booked. But I don't see that being a big problem. So many people hate my Republicon members that the Congress member will be glad for the attention. Or they may sell those tours for a donation since my Congress Critters are so money hungry.

But here is the info. I want to see what damage demented pedo Trump has done. I toured the White House back in the 1980s.

Tours of The White House include the public rooms in the East Wing and the Residence, which include the Vermeil Room, the Library, the China Room, the Blue Room, Red Room, Green Room, the State Dining Room, and a view of the White House Kennedy Garden. Secret Service Officers are stationed along the tour route and are available to answer questions about each room’s history, art, furnishings, current uses, and beyond.

Reserve your tour
White House tour requests should be made through your Member of Congress, which may be submitted 7 – 90 days in advance of the requested tour date.
Tours are generally available 7:30 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. Tuesday through Thursday as well as 7:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. Friday through Saturday (excluding Federal holidays or unless otherwise noted). When possible, public tour hours will be extended based on the official White House schedule.

All White House tours are free of charge.
Tour schedules may change at any time, with little notice, due to inclement weather or scheduling conflicts, even after your tour is confirmed.

You may reach your Member of Congress through the United States Capitol Switchboard at 202-224-3121 (TTY: 202-225-1904), or online at congress.gov/members.

Operating hours and timely updates can be found at the 24hr information line: 202-456-7041.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/visit/

electric_blue68

(26,966 posts)
52. Hmm...back in summer ? '93, or '94 I didn't need to contact my Congress person...I think I did go to a separate...
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 01:39 AM
Oct 2025

small building to pick up a WH Tour tix, and then went over to (sigh) the East Wing to enter, and be checked by security. Them off to the tour.

Farmer-Rick

(12,713 posts)
56. Yeah, I didn't go through
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 08:28 AM
Oct 2025

My congressman back in the 1980s either. I just signed up in DC when I first got there 3 days before the tour.

I was just surprised they still did tours. And I thought if I could witness the damage up close, it would mean something.

He tore down the colonnade and the Jacqueline Kennedy garden too. My heart breaks. What I would have paid for a cornice piece or medallion from the wing; maybe a bush or plant from the garden. But no, it all had to be destroyed. It all had to be bulldozed into scrap and ruins.

gab13by13

(32,481 posts)
30. Botany, you have nailed it.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 12:07 PM
Oct 2025

It will be up to us, the people, to throw out the billionaires and hopefully, we will get a significant number of unwashed Magats to join us.

I wanted Dems to vote no to the CR back in March.

I wanted all of our social safety net protected before the government was funded. I was attacked here for being anti-Democrat.

Now Dems voted no and we only have one main issue to fight for, reimbursements to Obamacare, a worthy goal to fight for but;
Since March, Magats passed the Big Ugly Death Bill that will gut Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, the VA, with worst of the cuts taking effect Dec 1, 2026, after the election.

Time Mattered.

generalbetrayus

(1,905 posts)
34. I decided a long time ago that the day Orange Julius Caesar won the 2016 election that we had been hurled
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 12:55 PM
Oct 2025

into an evil, alternate universe that we have been unable to escape since.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,423 posts)
38. Democrats need to run on tearing down the grotesque ballroom.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 03:23 PM
Oct 2025

I see it as an umbrella issue for all others needed for refurbishing and restoration of the Republic trashed by the Trump regime.

BigmanPigman

(55,301 posts)
40. Mel Brooks, "It's good to be da king"
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 04:09 PM
Oct 2025

tRump is building his own Palace of Versailles He is the KING and Melania is Marie Antoinette.

The fucking moron doesn't read so maybe he should watch the film "The History of The World, Part 1".

Things don't end well for the KING and his wifey.

Half-step

(134 posts)
42. It's alright... (sarcasm alert)
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 04:39 PM
Oct 2025

I heard that Melania wasn't really using the offices in the East Wing, anyway.

ancianita

(43,312 posts)
45. By now, any street protests
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:40 PM
Oct 2025

make Americans feel sympathetic about the travesty of destruction, but that's it.
Trump would love to show the optics of that on his platforms.

"Where are ... pitchforks and torches?" You know why.
1. They're not allowed on WH grounds.
2. The 19th Cent. image is kinda weak.

Reality is taking him to court to make him pay for damages to the People's House.

myohmy2

(3,723 posts)
46. anytime...
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:58 PM
Oct 2025

...the Republicans want to stop, impeach and convict trump they can but they won't because they're all part of the same fascist movement sweeping the country and world...

...until we build and have a stronger countervailing movement to meet and beat these fascists this horrendous spectacle and destruction of our country will continue unabated...sorry

...many saw this coming but few took it seriously...

...hang in there...

SunSeeker

(58,333 posts)
50. Working people are too busy holding down 2 jobs to pay for a pound of hamburger.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:56 PM
Oct 2025

If we want to get their attention, we need to tell them how we will make their lives better. Our problem has always been getting our message out through the wall of Republican lies.

Bread and Circuses

(2,121 posts)
51. He's flooding the world with hate, lies, chaos, crimes, violence and stupidity. ...
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 12:14 AM
Oct 2025

He and ALL republicans are evil .

We are under attack !

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