The Epstein "cover-up" must be the most shameful, devastating news imaginable?

[kentuck]

The lengths they have gone to try and escape scrutiny is beyond comprehension.

Now, they have put the Congress on what appears to be a permanent vacation? Because, they do not want to vote to release the Epstein files.

How many big names are in the files? We suspect Donald Trump but there must be many more? Nothing is off limits as a means to keep it covered up.

Whatever we imagine is in the files, it is probably much, much worse?

It is the mother of all cover-ups.

[bucolic_frolic]

1. All true, and that's just the parts we know about or strongly suspect.

What if the scope, duration, or parameters of the subject matter and/or coverup were much wider? The public is shocked with what is known, but is the focus too narrow? Widen every input to the max, and think hard. Hard! Connect the dots.

[BattleRow]

43. Apparently ,you CAN gag MAGAts.

[GoCubsGo]

2. I'm surprised that there has been very little of it leaked.

That just tells me that this likely goes WAY beyond Trump...

[vapor2]

6. Thomas Massie has a list

CEO of an Italian car company, Music industry exec, a magician for starters

[johnnyfins]

14. The survivors know the real list

[GoCubsGo]

44. I'd bet money that a whole bunch of his colleagues are on the list, too.

And/or their big-money donors. Which would be a good reason why nobody's naming names...

[Irish_Dem]

3. Very rich and very powerful men are on the list?

And it is more widespread than we realize.

A long list.

[multigraincracker]

24. Something about rich and powerful people

that gravitate to that behavior.
With all that money and power they must be too bored and seek that extra risk.
Could be?

[Irish_Dem]

27. Yes

The rich and powerful can have all the consensual sex they want.
And can afford the most skilled and high class or low class hookers they want.

And can get hookers who will tolerate rough sex.

But you cannot beat up and rape children by law.
The ultimate thrill because it is forbidden.

I also think Epstein was able to deliver all kinds of forbidden sex.

The rich and powerful could pay well for it.
And had the power to cover it all up.

[multigraincracker]

30. The more forbidding the fruit the better it tastes.

For me it’s pie. 😊

[Irish_Dem]

31. Yes and part of the thrill for these guys is getting away with it.

They love getting away with their crimes.

No one can touch them.

[multigraincracker]

34. Until they are Caught and cry like a baby.

Especially preachers.

[Trueblue Texan]

35. I think that is exactly it and that is...

...what Dump alluded to in his birthday poem to Epstein.

[Solomon]

49. And I've always wondered if organ harvesting is part of it. Billionaires trying to stay alive past their time.

People going missing.

[Irish_Dem]

51. There could be other money making sidelines.

I wonder who runs the illegal harvesting of organs from kidnapped people?
If there is money to be made, the bad guys are on it.

[Blue Owl]

4. And meanwhile, while it's being covered up, the criminal continues criminaling

[vapor2]

5. VIDEOS AND NAMES PER DAVID CAY JOHNSTON

[bucolic_frolic]

8. The fallout may be too big to fall out.

It could involve several elite segments of society. Pillars of the aristocracy could be outed. They may not all be men. It could affect finance, government, corporations, arts, sciences. No telling where a thread leads once you pull it. Like a knitted sweater.

Might be best to leave it alone. Or at least some think so.

[Irish_Dem]

29. Yes but think about the children being raped and beaten up.

[bucolic_frolic]

39. hey, i'm not makiing excuses or advocating a coverup

but some segments of the cabal may disagree.

[Trueblue Texan]

36. according to at least one victim, they are NOT all men. nt

[Irish_Dem]

40. Sadistic female pedophiles are very rare.

So it will be interesting to see how many of these turn up in the Epstein files.

[meow2u3]

50. I say out them all and let the chips fall where they may

IDGAS what happens to elites, as long as the survivors get justice. Elites have always threatened society with utter collapse if their crimes were to be laid bare for the whole world to see. So let's quit using that excuse.

[Midnight Writer]

7. I reckon the old adage that "The Cover-up Is Worse Than The Crime" does not hold here.

Hard to spin trafficking of underage teen-age girls in a multi-billion-dollar operation into anything positive. The only choice is to bury the files like a turd in a litter box.

Yes, Epstein's bank records show that he was handling billions of dollars. Someone with a lot of resources was involved in this operation. Someone who does not want to be identified. Someone who is above Trump? Someone Trump is afraid of?

[Codifer]

16. Perhaps

Someone with the initials "V. P."?

[txwhitedove]

18. Trump would lose his hig donors. It's a bribe and money scam same as Epstein.

[Irish_Dem]

32. Has Putin's fingerprints on it.

[rampartd]

9. the entire epstein business is a distraction from the new throne room's onion dome.

from the fact that this guy has surrendered ww iii and sits now as quisling until the new boss arrives to throw him from the window..

[milestogo]

10. It must be really, really, really bad.

Although its almost impossible to offend a MAGAT.

[lame54]

11. Are they impossible to destroy?

[usonian]

12. It's about the uncovering, and hence, the destruction of the Trump/Epstein blackmail empire. Money and power gone. POOF!

He's going down, because "revelation" will crush his empire.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220735608
^^^^^ Great Thread, and not even mine! ^^^^^

He's the inheritor of the Trump/Epstein blackmail operation, since that unfortunate Epstein incident.

When the scheme is exposed,
Away go:
• his uuge blackmail revenue stream,
• blackmail power.
• Everything.

Blackmail depends on secrecy.
He's racing to seize dictatorial power before his business falls apart.

Andrew is the first domino to fall.
And BAD NEWS TRAVELS FAST.

Bye, Bye Dumpie, and all his victims, and all his enablers, and who knows what percentage of the Supreme Court (some are obvious candidates)

[Trueblue Texan]

38. I wish someone would check to see if Lindsey Graham is moving his assets. nt

[Clouds Passing]

45. Now those tafficking/laundering/blackmailing daily responsibilities have been handed to his kids.

Just like grandaddy & daddy handed to him.

[Silent Type]

13. Personally, I think there is value in them continuing to hide it. The speculation of what's in the report is probably

more damning than what is in the report, at least at this point after years of scrubbing, etc.

[karin_sj]

15. What I don't understand..

Is why patriotic Americans who have seen these files (and I’m sure there must be SOME) are not coming forward. Surely, some in the intelligence community, judicial branch, and/or people in congress have seen some of the files and pictures. And what about the victims. I thought that they were going to compile a list… What are they waiting for? The country (and world) are falling part and it’s getting worse every day.

[BadgerKid]

33. Same, but who'd grant immunity from prosecution

Under the current administration? I can’t see it happening soon.

[ashredux]

17. He was not just a friend. He was a partner with Epstein.

He was able to funnel young women through his golf club, that’s why the story where he tried to say Epstein “stole” a towel, girl. He was making money with Epstein.

[FalloutShelter]

19. The greatest success of the cover-up

Ha been the GOP’s ability to keep the language of the scandal ( with the help of the MSM) focused on the “List” . Like it was a little black book or something.

What this is really about is the MONEY- the secret bank transfers. The Felon/ rapist was not a customer…
I think he was Epstein’s business partner .

JMHO Follow the money.

[LilElf70]

20. The question is

WHEN will the files be released? There's absolutely no reason why this has been kept secret for so long. The people need to know, especially since big daddy's name might be deeply involved. It's so obvious. And if it isn't obvious, we need to know that too.

[MiHale]

21. Betting it could be still an ongoing operation...

Ripping the skin off the files would expose the workings of today. Must be a large operation looking at the number of people trying to keep the coverup on. Way too many distractions.

[MLWR]

22. "Whatever we imagine is in the files, it is probably much, much worse?"

My guess is that murdering fishermen in the Caribbean is not his first rodeo with that act. Just sayin'

[ultralite001]

23. Doubtless the crimes continue...

The names have changed... The kompromat + the abuse was far too lucrative to simply disappear...

[H2O Man]

25. This, too, shall pass.

The administration & puppets in Congress are damaging the maga brand. Although things appear to be going slowly in an age where the news cycles so rapidly, the Epstein scandal is going to fully catch up to them.

[PatSeg]

26. "Nobody does coverups like I do, nobody"

He is the master of coverups.

[Tribetime]

28. This is why another Republican needs to sign the discharge petition

That's probably the only way to end the shutdown

[dlk]

37. Trafficking...?

n/t

[usonian]

46. Hey, congratulations on 13,000 posts.

Party.

[Ponietz]

41. Two suicides already

Is that like falling out of windows?

[Marie Marie]

42. OK big question here...

I read on here weeks ago (sorry, don't remember who wrote this) and then also heard one of the experts on Nicole Wallace's show say that it doesn't HAVE to be the Speaker who swears Vote #218 into congress. There are others who can perform that duty (I'm thinking of you Justice Sotomayer - I'm sure that she would gladly do that). So, why aren't the Democrats doing that?

And yes I know that Moses Mike can still keep her cut off from some of what she needs to be up and fully running but it would be a start and a big FU to
Trump and POS SOH. Plus, maybe they can at least hold that all important vote somehow.

[Sneederbunk]

47. What's worse than finding out the president is a pedophile?

[Skittles]

52. knowing how many people actually voted for him

[TheBlackAdder]

55. Or the scores that know he is and are obstructing justice.

[spanone]

48. K&R

[returnee]

53. I think it's two things.

1) a sting operation on rich perverts to gain influence over our government (the rich have outsized influence on our government).
2) that it was run by foreign intelligence agents.
I.e., it’s about treasonous perverts.

[KS Toronado]

54. At an auction yesterday I asked a dumpie voter

How come our Senate is working during the shutdown but the House of Representatives isn't?
He shot back with "They're trying to keep the Epstein files hidden" I agreed!