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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:01 PM Jan 2012

13 year old girl holds vinyl record for the first time. baffled why so few songs on massive disk

13-year-old baffled by vinyl record (video)
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The latest YouTube sensation is a 13-year-old girl who is holding a record for the very first time—and makes those of us over 20 years old feel ancient.

Athena Scalzi is completely fascinated by the LP and has no clue what it’s for or what it does.

Her father, John Scalzi, has to explain that it plays music. (Imagine that?!)

“This is huge,” she says. “It’s like 10 CDs in one.”

Her dad tells her that it only has 10 or 15 songs on it.

“For the whole thing?” she says, completely mystified why there would be so few songs on a massive disc.

http://blog.sfgate.com/sfmoms/2012/01/23/video-13-year-old-girl-holds-a-record-for-the-first-time/?tsp=1

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13 year old girl holds vinyl record for the first time. baffled why so few songs on massive disk (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 OP
Cute. But I'm skeptical. Skinner Jan 2012 #1
Me too RockaFowler Jan 2012 #2
Agree... less than spontaneous jberryhill Jan 2012 #3
me three warrior1 Jan 2012 #9
I agree Tripper11 Jan 2012 #7
Me too! JDPriestly Jan 2012 #11
Word XemaSab Jan 2012 #14
Well, I called my 7 yr old granddaughter in 1993 and SharonAnn Jan 2012 #42
Yup. When I was growing up our phone number was HillWilliam Jan 2012 #44
Do you know WHY they had alphabetic characters as part of the number? jmowreader Jan 2012 #52
I call setup on that one. MineralMan Jan 2012 #4
Obviously the record wasn't 78 rpm Wwagsthedog Jan 2012 #5
If it had been dipsydoodle Jan 2012 #10
Sure Ron Obvious Jan 2012 #6
Our then 22-year-old daughter was in my father's basement with me, when phylny Jan 2012 #29
Dialing? pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #51
Some items, such as phones, seem more self-evident. You speak and listen in that device. Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 #59
Yes--but how long will she spend looking for where to punch in the number? pinboy3niner Jan 2012 #62
Well, I had to let my 14 year old use my old word processor not that long ago... Xithras Jan 2012 #65
A year or two ago the BBC gave a young kid an old Sony Walkman RZM Jan 2012 #8
It's quality, not quantity, honey. edbermac Jan 2012 #12
Original cut-outs all the way, baby. Leopolds Ghost Jan 2012 #34
right, because there was NO shitty music made in 1967. Warren DeMontague Jan 2012 #40
My parents always said just as much about the 60s RZM Jan 2012 #43
just wondering; why is something like that worth youtube-ing? Blue_Tires Jan 2012 #13
people have nothing betterto do leftyohiolib Jan 2012 #21
I just sold (2 hours ago) wilt the stilt Jan 2012 #15
what's a cartridge?? ??? Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 #16
it is what is in a turntable wilt the stilt Jan 2012 #27
At CES in Vegas hifiguy Jan 2012 #17
Nice piece of kit! GliderGuider Jan 2012 #30
Ive had SOTAS for 20 years. hifiguy Jan 2012 #54
I'm sure that kronos is big bucks wilt the stilt Jan 2012 #31
$28,000, actually. hifiguy Jan 2012 #53
I have a systemdek 11X wilt the stilt Jan 2012 #57
Indeed it is. hifiguy Jan 2012 #58
Gosh I still have alot of vinyl records. So great songs. southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #18
Well---she's kind of dumb if she doesn't know what an LP is... trumad Jan 2012 #19
And she has obviously never been in the teen fad store "Hot Topic" which has whole ScreamingMeemie Jan 2012 #23
LP's are still pretty much a novelty item onenote Jan 2012 #26
They are not so novel that a 13 year old would not be familiar with them. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2012 #28
As Dr. Hubert Farnsworth would say... sakabatou Jan 2012 #20
Something's wrong with this story. Lint Head Jan 2012 #22
Smack her in the head with one of these ... JoePhilly Jan 2012 #24
Data Ron Obvious Jan 2012 #32
In my early days, we got to use punch cards ... this was around 1980. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #33
LOL! How about computer punched paper tape guardian Jan 2012 #38
I have actually! Ron Obvious Jan 2012 #39
Ditto. Ms. Toad Jan 2012 #47
That tape's 5-bit. BiggJawn Jan 2012 #50
Her acting is very obvious. Her dad should be ashamed of himself Liquorice Jan 2012 #25
and his daughter is the one getting the brunt of the reaction Enrique Jan 2012 #55
In high school a guy I dated one time made a tape of songs for me undeterred Jan 2012 #35
Patton Oswalt------Time Travel in 2009 thelordofhell Jan 2012 #36
Video looks fake or staged to me. nt aaaaaa5a Jan 2012 #37
Video looks staged to me too guitar man Jan 2012 #41
Oh please--most stores have started carrying vinyl records again. Best Buy, FYE, etc. Puregonzo1188 Jan 2012 #45
Poor acting. I am quite sure it is faked. nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #46
I agree it is staged...but how many more hits did we just give it? Ms. Toad Jan 2012 #48
:-( Liberal_in_LA Jan 2012 #60
I went to the UU church on sunday... krispos42 Jan 2012 #49
Same John Scalzi that wrote "Old Man's War?" AngryAmish Jan 2012 #56
Yeah, but he wrote (still writing?) more than 2 others in the series Spike89 Jan 2012 #64
Similar to others' sentiment on this thread, I call Shenanigans! slutticus Jan 2012 #61
yeah, faked, but the point is valid Spike89 Jan 2012 #63

Tripper11

(4,463 posts)
7. I agree
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:12 PM
Jan 2012

The way she is holding by the edges, and turning it, seems like it was all a set up.

SharonAnn

(14,171 posts)
42. Well, I called my 7 yr old granddaughter in 1993 and
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:08 AM
Jan 2012

when she asked her other grandmother to bring her the phone and she couldn't bring it because the cord was too short, my granddaughter asked "Why does it have a cord?".

I could hear all of this and had to laugh, because in her life, she'd never been around a phone that didn't have a removable handset.

I told my husband that night that we were really "old fogies" because we not only knew that phones used to have cords, we remembered when they had dials, and when they had alphabetic characters as part of the "number".

HillWilliam

(3,310 posts)
44. Yup. When I was growing up our phone number was
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:23 AM
Jan 2012

ALpine-4 xxxx.

You had to dial the Operator first and ask for long distance. They'd connect you a long distance operator then you had to tell them the number to dial. They stayed on the line to make sure the connection actually worked. There were echos and it sounded like you were hollering down a vacuum cleaner hose.

It was against the law for you to install your own phone. You could only have one phone on a line. Extensions came later.

When 1+ automagic long distance came along it was a wonder.

Now I walk around with a phone in my pocket and a bluetooth on my ear. I still remember how it was back in the days.

jmowreader

(53,162 posts)
52. Do you know WHY they had alphabetic characters as part of the number?
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:04 AM
Jan 2012

That was from the days of Named Exchanges.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_exchange_names

A telephone exchange can have 9,999 subscribers. Theoretically it can have 10,000 subscribers--0000 to 9999--but they usually don't assign 0000 to anyone. So, 0001 to 9999.

If a community has more than that, they need more than one dial central office. In the really old days, each DCO had a name. If DU was a city with 25,000 telephones in it, we might have exchanges named Skinner 1, EarlG 2 and Elad 3.

Before Mr. Almon Strowger and his wonderful invention, the automatic telephone switching system, came along, you would pick up your phone and ask to be connected to exchange Skinner 1, where your friend would have the number 1234. When they invented automatic switching, you would dial SK1 (751), which would cause the machine to connect you to exchange Skinner 1, and then dial 1234 to reach your friend.

For more fun: old General Telephone switchgear would allow subscribers calling other subscribers on the same exchange to just dial the last number of the exchange prefix. The community I grew up in was serviced by GTE. Our exchange number was 245, but you only had to dial the 5.

MineralMan

(151,180 posts)
4. I call setup on that one.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:10 PM
Jan 2012

Vinyl is cool again, and nobody's into cool as much as a 13-year-old. So, I say bogus video.

My great nieces and nephews are about that age. They know about vinyl, and always ask me to play records when they visit. I put a stack of Tom Waits on the changer in my 60's vacuum tube Magnavox console and play 'em.

"Whoa...did that guy just say what I think he said?"

Their parents think my wife and I are weird, but the kids like it.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
6. Sure
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:11 PM
Jan 2012

Next, explain to her where "dialing a phone number" came from.

I wonder what she'd make of my old portable manual typewriter.

phylny

(8,818 posts)
29. Our then 22-year-old daughter was in my father's basement with me, when
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 07:50 PM
Jan 2012

I directed her to his old dial phone. I said, "How would you call our house?"

Honestly - she had NO clue!

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
59. Some items, such as phones, seem more self-evident. You speak and listen in that device.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 04:51 PM
Jan 2012

Maybe I'm wrong.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
65. Well, I had to let my 14 year old use my old word processor not that long ago...
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:20 PM
Jan 2012

My printer was busted and my procrastinating son had to turn in a report the next day, so I pulled my old Brother WP80 out of the storage cabinet and let him use it. The WP80 was about the peak of typewriting technology, and one of the last great typing machines built in the late 80's, and included a built in 9" monocrome crt screen, spell checker, floppy drive, etc. It's like a super-primitive laptop that runs one program, weighs 50 pounds, and has an old ribbon-style printer (none of that fancy-schmancy dot-matrix stuff here). It was an extremely advanced and expensive device in its day, because it allowed people to type up and proofread an ENTIRE DOCUMENT before printing.

I wiped the dust off, plugged it in, and the thing fired up within seconds and was ready to type. Say what you want about old technology, but the stuff was a hell of a lot more durable that the computer equipment we buy today.

"Dad, how do I change the font?"

"You don't."

"Dad, how do I make the text bigger for the title?"

"You don't."

"Dad, how do I change the text color?"

"You don't."

"Dad, how do I insert a picture?"

"Glue."

"Wow dad, this thing sucks! Did your teachers give you F's because your papers looked so bad?"

"No. In fact, half my teachers wouldn't even take typed papers. They had to be handwritten."

"Wow. I'd drop out."

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
8. A year or two ago the BBC gave a young kid an old Sony Walkman
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:12 PM
Jan 2012

And had him listen to it for a week and then checked back in. Apparently he had a of trouble comprehending the rewind and fast forward buttons. It took him a while to realize that once the tape is done, you have to rewind it to get back to the beginning.

edbermac

(16,439 posts)
12. It's quality, not quantity, honey.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:35 PM
Jan 2012

I'd take one Beatles LP over 10 Justin Bieber CD's any day.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
40. right, because there was NO shitty music made in 1967.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:46 PM
Jan 2012

Anyway, CDs are ancient history too, now, gramps.

(ps. I love Sgt. Peppers, too- but I don't cotton to my fellow oldsters asserting that no good music -and I'm not talking Bieber, here- has been made since, say, 1973)

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
43. My parents always said just as much about the 60s
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:13 AM
Jan 2012

People tend to remember the great stuff of the past and forget how much crap came with it. For every 'Day in the Life' there were probably 12 'Incense and Peppermints'.

Ohio Express 'Chewy Chewy' has not quite stood the test of time, IMO.

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
15. I just sold (2 hours ago)
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:43 PM
Jan 2012

two cartridges on ebay. I got $140 for both. Pickering xv-15 and an ortofon. I still have 2 turntables and a $500 turntable with a $250 cartridge playing a km audiophile record blows away Cd's. I have a mobile labs version of American Beauty". Quite great.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
17. At CES in Vegas
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:05 PM
Jan 2012

vinyl was all over the "high-performance audio" exhibits I covered at the Venetian. Vinyl is hip again and as good as it ever was. I was particularly smitten with this example of the state of the art of vinyl playback, The Kronos Turntable:

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
30. Nice piece of kit!
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 07:50 PM
Jan 2012

My last TT was a Sota Sapphire with an Alphason arm and a high end Grado cart. What a lovely old understated monster that was in its day.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
54. Ive had SOTAS for 20 years.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:56 PM
Jan 2012

First a Star Sapphire, and for the last 15 years a Cosmos that was upgraded to Series III about eight years ago. Graham 2.2 arm and a Dynavector XV-1S cart. I'd been perfectly happy with it until I heard the Kronos, which makes it sound a little defocused and soft. No table has ever done that to the Cosmos III before.

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
31. I'm sure that kronos is big bucks
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 07:52 PM
Jan 2012

probably $10,000. For those on this post a good turntable can be had on ebay. if you want excellent sound get these components
AR turnatble- $125-250
Systemdek 11X turntable- really good- $300.
Sumiko bluepoint- $200-$250.
Advent 300 receiver- It's a 15 watt amp but you want it for it's preamp- Tomas Homlinson design- He is Mr. THX- great phono section
$125-$200
Dynaco ST 70 amp-great tube amp-$400.
Dynaco- a25-$150 for a pair- very good.
I also have wharfedale 9.1- $175.

This system will sound very good. It will sound like a new $2500 system.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
53. $28,000, actually.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:54 PM
Jan 2012

And that is with no arm or cartridge. Add another $10-11K for those.

And it has to be considered a pretty good deal given that there are turntables with less impressive sonics that can cost $60-150,000, a couple of which I saw in LV. The Kronos is hand built, one at a time, buy two guys in Montreal. Artisanal products are always big, big bucks.

Though for $300-400 one can buy a plug-n-play Rega and enjoy much of what vinyl does so very well.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
19. Well---she's kind of dumb if she doesn't know what an LP is...
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:26 PM
Jan 2012

All my daughters friends, including my daughter got turntables for Christmas..

LP's are back in a big way.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
23. And she has obviously never been in the teen fad store "Hot Topic" which has whole
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:55 PM
Jan 2012

racks of them. I think this vid is B.S.

onenote

(46,135 posts)
26. LP's are still pretty much a novelty item
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 07:40 PM
Jan 2012

Yes sales of LPs were up by 30 percent last year. All the way to 3.9 million. While CDs sales dropped, there were still more than 200 million CDs sold, which suggests that LPs have a long long way to go before they're mainstream. Its unlikely that they'll ever get to that point as digital downloads will continue to increase and will outstrip all formats.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
28. They are not so novel that a 13 year old would not be familiar with them.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 07:47 PM
Jan 2012

Especially a 13 year old who is holding a smart phone at the beginning of the video. Which brings up the biggest thing wrong with this film to me. Who videotapes stuff like this??? I know. Those who are looking to go viral.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
22. Something's wrong with this story.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 06:50 PM
Jan 2012

I turned on the radio in my car and said, you mean I have to listen to music chosen by a corporation as opposed to choosing the playlist and order of the songs I want to hear. This is huge. Wonder if the 13 year old ever road in a car with a radio.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
32. Data
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:00 PM
Jan 2012

I see your 8" floppy and raise you a deck of punch cards, which I still have lying around from my college days.

I don't have a camera handy, so you'll just have to use your imagination for now, I fear...

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
33. In my early days, we got to use punch cards ... this was around 1980.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:05 PM
Jan 2012

Punch cards were almost dead by then. But my high school had a system that still used them. And we had to write programs and do them with punch cards.

The idea was, using punch cards would force one to be extremely diligent in their coding. screw up one card and you might also screw up a larger part of the deck.

And God forbid if you dropped the stack of cards and had to get them back in the correct order!!!

 

guardian

(2,282 posts)
38. LOL! How about computer punched paper tape
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:46 PM
Jan 2012

I'll raise a butterflied paper tape. Think I still have one with a program on it. But have you ever programmed a computer using patch cords or loaded a boot program using toggle switches? We've come a long way baby!






 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
39. I have actually!
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:38 PM
Jan 2012

I have indeed programmed through the front panel. I'll always maintain that computers haven't been as much fun to program as in the days of writing IBM 360 assembly language. You could write a program to convert Celcius to Fahrenheit and people would be bloody impressed!

There ought to be law analogous to Godwin's law which states that every discussion about computers always degenerates along the lines of Monty Python's 4 Yorkshiremen sketch, with the last line always being: "You had 0's and 1's? You were lucky! We just had 0's".

Ms. Toad

(38,575 posts)
47. Ditto.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:49 AM
Jan 2012

cards are really where I started, and I taught programming a few years later using punch tape (and film cannisters to keep it corralled); the much more basic was a brief retrospective just for fun.

BiggJawn

(23,051 posts)
50. That tape's 5-bit.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:59 AM
Jan 2012

It's Baudot Teletype, not ASCII.

Gawd, I'm such a nerd for knowing that!

Liquorice

(2,066 posts)
25. Her acting is very obvious. Her dad should be ashamed of himself
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 07:11 PM
Jan 2012

to come up with this bs to get attention.

undeterred

(34,658 posts)
35. In high school a guy I dated one time made a tape of songs for me
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 08:17 PM
Jan 2012

on one of those big 8" reel to reel tapes... It started with "Hello, I love you" and ended with "I'll say goodbye to love". Must have been a lot of work. I wonder if I still have it somewhere.

guitar man

(15,996 posts)
41. Video looks staged to me too
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 09:54 PM
Jan 2012

But I am glad to see a little resurgence in vinyl lp records. Whether they sound better than cd is a debate for the ages but the artwork and nostalgic experience are still pretty cool

Puregonzo1188

(1,948 posts)
45. Oh please--most stores have started carrying vinyl records again. Best Buy, FYE, etc.
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:36 AM
Jan 2012

Or at least they did a few years back.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
49. I went to the UU church on sunday...
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 12:55 AM
Jan 2012

...and the reverend told a story related to him by a rabbi that happened that week.

It seems the rabbi was reading a paper written by a young teenager, and corrected his use of a particular word. The teen objected, so the rabbi said "let's check the dictionary", and pulls it down from a shelf. The teen stares in surprise and says "the dictionary is a book?"

<sob>

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
64. Yeah, but he wrote (still writing?) more than 2 others in the series
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:18 PM
Jan 2012

I really enjoyed the first, and even the next two to a lesser degree. The series certainly suffered after the 1st three. However, he probably came as close as anyone else to writing a book you could slip into the Robert Heinlein catalogue without getting caught. Spyder Robinson may have a case, but he had collaboration/help from the Heinlein estate.

slutticus

(3,431 posts)
61. Similar to others' sentiment on this thread, I call Shenanigans!
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 05:27 PM
Jan 2012

Cute idea though. Someone should do this for real (assuming you can successfully isolate a child for 10 years from something like old record players)

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
63. yeah, faked, but the point is valid
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 06:12 PM
Jan 2012

At about that age (12-13) my stepdaughter totally confused my wife and I. Turns out she didn't understand the term "half past the hour" and couldn't read time from a clock. She was totally dependent on digital time. It wasn't a big deal and she learned to read a standard clock, but it still bugs her (10 years later) when we use quarter 'til and half past...

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