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MSNBC -- Netanyahu just ordered powerful strikes, again, in Gaza. (Original Post) allegorical oracle Oct 2025 OP
And no one is surprised PatSeg Oct 2025 #1
Peace, the likes of which.....blah blah! Traildogbob Oct 2025 #3
Yep, the world has never seen anything like it PatSeg Oct 2025 #5
3000 years I think he said the peace would last. What an idiot chicoescuela Oct 2025 #6
Give or take 3000 years I guess PatSeg Oct 2025 #38
But hey it was "HIS TRIUMPH!!!" and he was "THE LEADER ISREAL NEEDED!" Initech Oct 2025 #17
👂🏼I hear ya!!! Traildogbob Oct 2025 #19
Yeah that cover made me want to puke about 1,000 yards! Initech Oct 2025 #20
That's been going around Traildogbob Oct 2025 #22
No, rage puking can certainly fuck up a digestive system or two! Initech Oct 2025 #23
He will blame Biden. nt allegorical oracle Oct 2025 #29
Of course he will PatSeg Oct 2025 #37
Are some strikes not "powerful"? Were the strikes also "Big League"? maxsolomon Oct 2025 #2
First Newsweek. Then Time. Now CBS is following suit. Initech Oct 2025 #18
Of course he did. They're not going to genocide themselves. Iggo Oct 2025 #4
Who would have thought this would happen? OLDMDDEM Oct 2025 #7
Netanyahu orders 'immediate and powerful strikes' on Gaza in light of Hamas violations Mosby Oct 2025 #8
An irrelevant detail to most sarisataka Oct 2025 #27
Terror operatives fire at IDF troops in Rafah, in another apparent truce violation Mosby Oct 2025 #9
Was the "Hamas attack" before or after the IDF killed 20 Palestinians, as nearly every day of the ceasefire on average? AloeVera Oct 2025 #12
So, if we are to believe the IDF, Hamas fired on them iemanja Oct 2025 #25
Only Israel has the right to "defend itself". AloeVera Oct 2025 #31
Hamas fakes 'unearthing' partial remains of hostage whose body IDF recovered in 2023, Israel says Mosby Oct 2025 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 2025 #11
By assuming Israel would want partial remains of any hostage to be returned? N/T AloeVera Oct 2025 #34
How do you suppose it's possible to inflict this level of damage iemanja Oct 2025 #26
What does it matter? AloeVera Oct 2025 #33
A direct result of Hamas firing on IDF in Southern Gaza, lostincalifornia Oct 2025 #13
? Reports say it's due to some hostage remains Klarkashton Oct 2025 #21
Strikes After Hamas Fires on IDF lostincalifornia Oct 2025 #41
Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be maintained by violence. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Ping Tung Oct 2025 #14
We need to get the Arab states involved gulliver Oct 2025 #15
Go to the West Bank to see a "multi-ethnic, democratic, liberal...government. AloeVera Oct 2025 #32
You can't call Hamas legitimate "self-determination." gulliver Oct 2025 #35
So in order to prevent right wing Hamas, we need to empower the right wing Israeli government? EdmondDantes_ Oct 2025 #36
Israel will "protect" Palestinians and showcase liberalism for them? AloeVera Oct 2025 #42
As expected. Trump's "Peace" was always worthless. MineralMan Oct 2025 #16
Will the Official Lie be that the ceasefire holds? thought crime Oct 2025 #24
What cease fire? Jilly_in_VA Oct 2025 #28
Narco-terrorists! moondust Oct 2025 #30
Peace by Blowing the shit out of everything lame54 Oct 2025 #39
I guess that takes care of next year's Nobel Peace Prize hopes. Crunchy Frog Oct 2025 #40

PatSeg

(53,251 posts)
1. And no one is surprised
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 12:37 PM
Oct 2025

Though Trump can't claim he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for his extraordinary negotiation skills.

PatSeg

(53,251 posts)
5. Yep, the world has never seen anything like it
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 12:42 PM
Oct 2025

Well in a sense, I suppose that is true.

Initech

(108,966 posts)
17. But hey it was "HIS TRIUMPH!!!" and he was "THE LEADER ISREAL NEEDED!"
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 01:09 PM
Oct 2025

Fuck you Time and fuck your ass kissing bullshit propaganda!

Traildogbob

(13,075 posts)
22. That's been going around
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 01:28 PM
Oct 2025

No vaccine for it. That new, very whites only add on to our House could fill up with all that puke quickly.
Puking while raging can’t be good for us.
Can we get disappeared projectile vomiting on ICE KKKlansmen?

maxsolomon

(38,925 posts)
2. Are some strikes not "powerful"? Were the strikes also "Big League"?
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 12:38 PM
Oct 2025

God, that MFer's syntax is corrupting Journalism.

Initech

(108,966 posts)
18. First Newsweek. Then Time. Now CBS is following suit.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 01:10 PM
Oct 2025

This fucking worthless asshole is destroying everything.

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
8. Netanyahu orders 'immediate and powerful strikes' on Gaza in light of Hamas violations
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 12:47 PM
Oct 2025

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu instructs the IDF to “carry out immediate and powerful strikes in the Gaza Strip,” says his office after he called a meeting on Israel’s response to repeated violations of the Gaza ceasefire.

The decision comes shortly after IDF troops came under attack in the southern Gaza Strip, and amid Israeli anger after further Hamas violations involving the return of hostages’ bodies.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/netanyahu-orders-immediate-and-powerful-strikes-on-gaza-in-light-of-hamas-violations/

sarisataka

(22,716 posts)
27. An irrelevant detail to most
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 02:06 PM
Oct 2025

Israel is always at fault, Hamas is blameless/ justified.
Twice this month I have seen posts on DU about the "hoax" of October 7

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
9. Terror operatives fire at IDF troops in Rafah, in another apparent truce violation
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 12:48 PM
Oct 2025

Israeli troops stationed in southern Gaza’s Rafah came under fire by terror operatives a short while ago, The Times of Israel has learned.

Troops returned fire toward the attackers. Palestinian media reports also Israeli artillery shelling in the Rafah area.

The IDF has not yet commented on the incident, which appears to be another violation of the ceasefire deal by Hamas.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/terror-operatives-fire-at-idf-troops-in-rafah-in-another-apparent-truce-violation/

AloeVera

(4,325 posts)
12. Was the "Hamas attack" before or after the IDF killed 20 Palestinians, as nearly every day of the ceasefire on average?
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 12:58 PM
Oct 2025

If before, it was obviously a violation. If after, it was obviously a violation too. Only Israel is allowed to attack and kill during a ceasefire.

Obviously.

iemanja

(57,771 posts)
25. So, if we are to believe the IDF, Hamas fired on them
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 01:54 PM
Oct 2025

so Israel chooses to execute civilians rather than Hamas, as they have consistently made civilians the target of their operations. They could have, and probably did, confront Hamas militarily at the point of attack, but they couldn't wait to bomb innocent men, women, and children because they have declared even babies to be terrorists. Meanwhile, they continue their land grab in the West Bank, despite the fact Hamas isn't even in the region.

AloeVera

(4,325 posts)
31. Only Israel has the right to "defend itself".
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 02:17 PM
Oct 2025

Note that Netanyahu has declared Israel can still go on attacking Hamas. When they do, I suppose Hamas would just lie down and agree to be killed or something. Ha! Right.

The whole idea behind this is to provoke Hamas into an act of actual self-defense and then claim they attacked the IDF. Then continue bombing and killing children and civilians which is the best means of getting the survivors to run out of Gaza in fear for their lives.

So "clever" and predictable. So sickening!

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
10. Hamas fakes 'unearthing' partial remains of hostage whose body IDF recovered in 2023, Israel says
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 12:49 PM
Oct 2025

A casket handed over by Hamas on Monday night to Israel contained the partial remains of Ofir Tzarfati, a hostage whose body was recovered by the military in early December 2023, Israeli officials said.

In addition to not returning the bodies of any of the 13 dead hostages still held in the Gaza Strip, Hamas staged a fake “discovery” of Tzarfati’s remains in eastern Gaza City in front of the Red Cross.

Israel has said Hamas has access to many of the remaining bodies and is dragging its feet in returning them, which it is required to do under the terms of the US-backed ceasefire agreement.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/casket-returned-by-hamas-had-remains-of-hostage-whose-body-idf-recovered-in-2023-israel-says/

Response to Mosby (Reply #10)

iemanja

(57,771 posts)
26. How do you suppose it's possible to inflict this level of damage
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 02:02 PM
Oct 2025



without impacting hostages? Does Israel have special bombs that magically miss Israelis while killing tens of thousands of Palestinians?

Meanwhile, the captive bodies that Israel released ALL show signs of torture, in violation of the Geneva Convention. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/15/palestinian-bodies-returned-by-israel-show-signs-of-torture-and-execution-say-doctors

AloeVera

(4,325 posts)
33. What does it matter?
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 03:03 PM
Oct 2025

Does Israel not want the partial remains back?

Now more Palestinian kids and others need to die because Hamas assumed wrongly??

Klarkashton

(5,352 posts)
21. ? Reports say it's due to some hostage remains
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 01:20 PM
Oct 2025

Not being who they were suppose to be or some shit.

lostincalifornia

(5,431 posts)
41. Strikes After Hamas Fires on IDF
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 04:56 PM
Oct 2025
Israel launched airstrikes in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday after the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said Hamas fighters fired an anti-tank missile and small arms at troops near Rafah, and as the group delayed the return of additional hostage remains. After a security assessment with defense officials, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the military to carry out “immediate and powerful strikes,” his office said. The Prime Minister’s Office added that the IDF targeted Hamas-used infrastructure and returned fire to stop further threats to soldiers positioned along the “Yellow Line.”

Defense Minister Israel Katz said the attack “crosses a glaring red line to which the IDF will respond with great force,” adding, “Hamas will pay many times over for attacking the soldiers and for violating the agreement to return the fallen hostages.” Israeli outlets reported that Jerusalem has informed US officials of potential next steps, including widening areas under Israeli control inside Gaza. Israeli media also said the Civilian–Military Coordination Center in Kiryat Gat—tasked with monitoring enforcement of President Donald Trump’s Gaza deal—was notified of strikes in Rafah.




https://themedialine.org/headlines/netanyahu-orders-immediate-and-powerful-strikes-after-hamas-fires-on-idf/

or this:

"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered “forceful strikes” against Hamas in response to attacks on Israeli soldiers in Gaza, jeopardizing a US-brokered ceasefire that’s held for just over two weeks.

The order to strike in the Palestinian territory came after security consultations, the Israeli leader’s office said in a Tuesday post on X. Defense Minister Israel Katz said Hamas will “pay a heavy price” for attacking Israeli soldiers and violating a promise to return the bodies of dead hostages.

The Hamas attack “is a crossing of a red line to which the IDF will respond with great force,” Katz said in a statement. An Israeli military official added that Hamas militants had attacked Israeli forces in Rafah, an area controlled by Israel as part of the truce agreement.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-28/netanyahu-tells-military-to-strike-gaza-jeopardizing-ceasefire?srnd=homepage-americas


Ping Tung

(4,370 posts)
14. Violence can only be concealed by a lie, and the lie can only be maintained by violence. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 01:03 PM
Oct 2025

gulliver

(14,035 posts)
15. We need to get the Arab states involved
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 01:04 PM
Oct 2025

Unfortunately, Hamas is unlikely to disarm. I'd like to see Israel govern part of Gaza and show just what can be done with a multi-ethnic, democratic, liberal-minded form of government. Israel is already that way. I wonder how many Gazans would prefer that they lived outside the medievally conservative (that all true liberals should hate) prison Hamas has created for them.

Israel would have to have fairly tight security to keep Hamas from polluting the population in a liberal-minded (as opposed to Islamist arch-conservative-minded) Israeli-controlled section of Gaza.

Dealing with large Hamas infestations may require the Arab states to do the policing in another part of Gaza. The Arab states can be much, much tougher (let's say) on Hamas than Israel without drawing charges of genocide.

AloeVera

(4,325 posts)
32. Go to the West Bank to see a "multi-ethnic, democratic, liberal...government.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 02:49 PM
Oct 2025

Or visit some Palestinian Citizens of Israel to get THEIR take on democracy, freedom of speech, equal treatment of all citizens, the right to self-determination etc in Israel.

Further, I can't believe you are openly advocating here that Israel get to "control" Gaza. That's not what Palestinians want and their right to self-determination and nationhood, just as Israelis have, should not be ignored especially by someone who believes in Western style democracy. You can't impose democracy by stealing a people's land.

gulliver

(14,035 posts)
35. You can't call Hamas legitimate "self-determination."
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 03:15 PM
Oct 2025

Israel may need to control a section of Gaza to prevent far-right conservative extremists (such as Hamas and other so-called Islamists) from spoiling the Gazan people's lives, bullying some, executing some, and imprisoning the rest. I'm a liberal, so I admit I'm on the side of liberalism and against the far, far right conservatives controlling Gaza.

The peaceful, educated, tolerant Gazans are my priority. We can't have them subjugated by thugs and anti-Israel psyops-practicing fools. That would be bad for the Gazans and the world. A prosperous Gaza section controlled by Israel (temporarily) is valuable for Israel's safety and good for the Gazans who live there. It would be like a cast to keep Gazans from the clutches of bestial lowlife like Hamas and a chance to showcase liberalism.

EdmondDantes_

(1,961 posts)
36. So in order to prevent right wing Hamas, we need to empower the right wing Israeli government?
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 03:39 PM
Oct 2025

A government who has said and repeatedly demonstrated that it wants to conquer Gaza and the West Bank. Neither the current Israeli government or Hamas are currently trustworthy on this.

AloeVera

(4,325 posts)
42. Israel will "protect" Palestinians and showcase liberalism for them?
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 06:09 PM
Oct 2025

Have you been following Israel's conduct for the last 50 years or so? The last two even?

Israelis want Palestinians out - GONE. What Israel wants, Israel gets. The rest, sadly, is just a lot of talk and hot air.

MineralMan

(151,430 posts)
16. As expected. Trump's "Peace" was always worthless.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 01:04 PM
Oct 2025

Everything Trump does is worthless or destructive.

thought crime

(1,685 posts)
24. Will the Official Lie be that the ceasefire holds?
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 01:48 PM
Oct 2025

Maga wouldn't know the difference. There is peace in Gaza now. War is Peace.

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