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"Put him in a black skin"... (Original Post) sheshe2 Oct 2025 OP
A very mature and wise young student. Wonder what life had in store for her/ him Deuxcents Oct 2025 #1
Outstanding response! brer cat Oct 2025 #2
wow DoBW Oct 2025 #3
It's only one sentence, but it speaks volumes. anciano Oct 2025 #4
No Kidding!!! calimary Oct 2025 #9
What a Sweetheart ... Clearly a Cha Oct 2025 #5
FWIW, Google AI couldn't identify the student, or give their correct gender. TheRickles Oct 2025 #7
I'm sure all those "intelligent agents" couldn't identify Hitler's racial makeup or his gender either. erronis Oct 2025 #8
Yeesh, I just thought it would be interesting to learn more about whoever came up with that brilliant quote. TheRickles Oct 2025 #12
Sorry. I tend to get carried away on the enshittification of the internet. erronis Oct 2025 #14
Got it. No worries - all is forgiven. :-) TheRickles Oct 2025 #16
See my post #21 IronLionZion Oct 2025 #22
Oh dear.. now what? Cha Oct 2025 #10
Appears DU dweller Oct 2025 #26
Boy or girl? colorado_ufo Oct 2025 #32
Powerful maveric Oct 2025 #6
We should do that with everyone swong19104 Oct 2025 #11
this sounds a lil too good to be true tbh, mainly because of the utter lack of correlating evidence WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author anciano Oct 2025 #17
Today some have the attitude "Hey we don't need to see the trees because we see a forest." . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #18
I don't need made-up stories to know that living in a white supremacy hurts Black people. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #20
It's from a book called "Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents" by Isabel Wilkerson IronLionZion Oct 2025 #21
What is from the book? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #23
The story in the OP IronLionZion Oct 2025 #24
Does the book name the child who wrote this essay, the school where they studied, who sponsored the contest? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #25
Is the identity or even the verity of the anecdote the most important point here? Ilikepurple Oct 2025 #28
I've found a different source referenced. Wiz Imp Oct 2025 #29
Since that book is 1944 and the OP story says 1944 IronLionZion Oct 2025 #38
Agreed Wiz Imp Oct 2025 #39
If you have not read Wilkerson's Caste, it is well worth reading. Lonestarblue Oct 2025 #37
... littlemissmartypants Oct 2025 #15
Ouch. Iggo Oct 2025 #19
Great idea LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2025 #27
As a young teen I read Black Like Me. multigraincracker Oct 2025 #30
As did I. sheshe2 Oct 2025 #31
Required reading as a Freshman. sop Oct 2025 #33
He needs to live the story, not ban it. multigraincracker Oct 2025 #35
Do that Rebl2 Oct 2025 #34
Do it to TSF's whole cabinet tikka Oct 2025 #36
Mind blowing. That poor child. marble falls Nov 2025 #40

erronis

(24,079 posts)
8. I'm sure all those "intelligent agents" couldn't identify Hitler's racial makeup or his gender either.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 08:23 PM
Oct 2025

I don't actually G.A.S. what google or other engines cough up from their intestines. They are trained on so much garbage in that actual historical facts (if known) are submerged in the effluvium of crap.

TheRickles

(3,435 posts)
12. Yeesh, I just thought it would be interesting to learn more about whoever came up with that brilliant quote.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 08:52 PM
Oct 2025

I wasn't trying to make any grand political or philosophical statement about AI or Google or anything else.

erronis

(24,079 posts)
14. Sorry. I tend to get carried away on the enshittification of the internet.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 09:06 PM
Oct 2025

I appreciate totally your research!

IronLionZion

(51,404 posts)
22. See my post #21
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 09:45 PM
Oct 2025

it's from a book. There's also a movie about the author's travels researching the content for the book.

swong19104

(639 posts)
11. We should do that with everyone
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 08:45 PM
Oct 2025

in the present administration. Starting with Miller.

Hey Miller, at least your bald head will be "colored".

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,075 posts)
13. this sounds a lil too good to be true tbh, mainly because of the utter lack of correlating evidence
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 08:55 PM
Oct 2025

Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #13)

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
18. Today some have the attitude "Hey we don't need to see the trees because we see a forest." . . . nt
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 09:26 PM
Oct 2025

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,075 posts)
20. I don't need made-up stories to know that living in a white supremacy hurts Black people.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 09:31 PM
Oct 2025

IronLionZion

(51,404 posts)
21. It's from a book called "Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents" by Isabel Wilkerson
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 09:42 PM
Oct 2025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste:_The_Origins_of_Our_Discontents

It was adapted into a film called Origin, which shows how she conducted her research for the book
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_(film)

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,075 posts)
25. Does the book name the child who wrote this essay, the school where they studied, who sponsored the contest?
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 09:55 PM
Oct 2025

Or is it just a repetition of this anecdote?

Ilikepurple

(739 posts)
28. Is the identity or even the verity of the anecdote the most important point here?
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 10:08 PM
Oct 2025

I’m failing to understand why this statement needs to be verified to a degree not seemingly required from most posts. Is it because it’s found in a meme? That involves an insightful idea from a young black American in the 40s? I agree that the truth of the matter is often important, but what seems to be more important is the message of the idea. There is some reason your default position is skepticism even after someone cites a book published by Random House and I hope it’s just that you have a strong bias against information by meme.

Wiz Imp

(10,164 posts)
29. I've found a different source referenced.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 10:34 PM
Oct 2025

Either way, I see no reason to question the veracity of the claim in general.

https://gehayi.tumblr.com/post/170390081086/in-1944-a-sixteen-year-old-black-student-in

The line is a slightly altered version of one from A Nation of Nations (1944) by Louis Adamic. Dan Shiffman quotes it in Rooting Multiculturalism: The Work of Louis Adamic:

“Perhaps Adamic’s most memorable reference [to the progress and ongoing exclusion African-Americans faced in WWII] comes early in the chapter and sets the tone for the rest of his discussion: ‘In the spring of 1944 a sixteen-year-old girl in Columbus, Ohio won a high school essay contest on “What to do with Hitler after the War” by writing a single sentence: “Put him in a black skin and let him live the rest of his life in America.”

But a significant point is that she won the contest.‘

So not only was the student black, but a black girl. Most of the re-quotes of Adamic omit that fact.

IronLionZion

(51,404 posts)
38. Since that book is 1944 and the OP story says 1944
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 12:30 PM
Oct 2025

there's a good chance it actually happened considering the historical conditions at that time.

Lonestarblue

(13,521 posts)
37. If you have not read Wilkerson's Caste, it is well worth reading.
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 11:23 AM
Oct 2025

She also wrote The Warmth of Other Suns, a history of the migration of black people from the South. Hers’s the Amazon short description:

“In this beautifully written masterwork, Pulitzer Prize–winning author Isabel Wilkerson presents a definitive and dramatic account of one of the great untold stories of American history: the Great Migration of six million Black citizens who fled the South for the North and West in search of a better life, from World War I to 1970.”

multigraincracker

(37,802 posts)
30. As a young teen I read Black Like Me.
Tue Oct 28, 2025, 10:58 PM
Oct 2025

That was over 60 years ago and what I learned from it has stuck.

sop

(18,872 posts)
33. Required reading as a Freshman.
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 10:36 AM
Oct 2025

It was banned in Florida high schools by DeSantis and his band of book burners, probably in other states as well.

Rebl2

(17,830 posts)
34. Do that
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 10:39 AM
Oct 2025

with Steve Miller, the one who I believe is really ruining the country.
I meant to say running the country, not ruining. Actually, both words fit.

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