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kentuck

(115,401 posts)
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 10:25 AM Oct 2025

If Republicans were gutting Social Security, would you want Democrats to go along with it?

That is what is happening right now with healthcare for over 40 million Americans. Trump and the Republicans want to end "Obamacare" and the subsidies it provides to millions of Americans. And they do not want to negotiate or talk about it. It is their way or the highway. For years, they have preached that "compromise" is a dirty word. That is why the government is shut down right now.

Democrats have no other power than to say we don't agree with the way you are treating the American people and we cannot go along with your plan. We need to sit down and see if we can come up with a solution. But Trump has said, "No Compromise!". And MAGA Mike has sent all his people home and there is no Congress in Washington. And they are still getting paid.

Maybe someday they will realize that this is a large and diverse country with many different needs and that compromise is a necessity for our democracy to work? If they are too stubborn or brain-dead to realize that, then why are they in charge of every branch of government??

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If Republicans were gutting Social Security, would you want Democrats to go along with it? (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2025 OP
These are conflicting ideologies, private interests vs. the public good bucolic_frolic Oct 2025 #1
The GOP is not in charge RainCaster Oct 2025 #2
Billionaires have always supported Republican policies. kentuck Oct 2025 #3
GOP may not be in charge, but they are 100% supporting this. Biophilic Oct 2025 #5
I wish the bill had been written to never sunset in the first place. Groundhawg Oct 2025 #4
+1 leftstreet Oct 2025 #10
N.O. Clouds Passing Oct 2025 #6
The problem as I see it is that Democrats keep saving republicans Turbineguy Oct 2025 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie_Seagull Oct 2025 #8
Apples and Oranges gab13by13 Oct 2025 #9
Fuck no, hold the line. The American people voted for this shit, they need to feel it by the truck load. Hotler Oct 2025 #11
Why do you think Democrats are "going along" with gutting Social Security? Wednesdays Oct 2025 #12

bucolic_frolic

(55,078 posts)
1. These are conflicting ideologies, private interests vs. the public good
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 10:30 AM
Oct 2025

If it were about the budget, there would have been across-the-board cuts in my view. -7% on everything. Democrats would have agreed. But we are in all-or-none territory. Obliteration and restructuring is in progress. We have no choice but to hunker down. The public will be late to the game to cut their spending to protect what they can for themselves. They think it's all coming back, that a rising tide will lift all boats.

RainCaster

(13,692 posts)
2. The GOP is not in charge
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 10:31 AM
Oct 2025

They have abdicated authority to the billionaires who are systematically destroying everything about the middle class.

kentuck

(115,401 posts)
3. Billionaires have always supported Republican policies.
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 10:35 AM
Oct 2025

Even those that call themselves "Democrats".

Turbineguy

(40,045 posts)
7. The problem as I see it is that Democrats keep saving republicans
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 10:53 AM
Oct 2025

from the consequences of their policies. If they went along, voters would throw republicans out. Those that survived anyway.

Maybe not, trump got reelected despite his performance. Maybe it is God's will and God hates America.

Response to kentuck (Original post)

gab13by13

(32,265 posts)
9. Apples and Oranges
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 11:07 AM
Oct 2025

Social Security is self funded it doesn't add one nickel to the deficit.

Also, cuts are being made to Social Security, the age to receive 100% benefits is being raised.

The 2.8% COLA was pathetic. The average increase is $56 which will be cut 40% by a $21.50 increase in Part B Medicare premiums.

The SS Trust fund is expected to not be able to pay out full benefits in 2033 unless something is done.

Hotler

(13,747 posts)
11. Fuck no, hold the line. The American people voted for this shit, they need to feel it by the truck load.
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 12:01 PM
Oct 2025

This is our way to own the repugs. Even just for a moment.

Wednesdays

(22,559 posts)
12. Why do you think Democrats are "going along" with gutting Social Security?
Wed Oct 29, 2025, 01:40 PM
Oct 2025


Maybe one or two might "go along," but by and large the Democratic Party is a staunch advocate of Social Security. And for the record, I am behind it 100 percent.
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