Radical idea for discussion

[Playingmantis]

Discussion for all.

Why shouldn’t the Democrats give in and fund the government? Give the GOP a win.
Before you react, hear me out.

Suppose we say we are voting to open the government because many will pay a heavy price and we don’t want that to happen BUT let everyone know healthcare premiums will rise as we warned.
After the government opens, and the GOP has a short-lived celebration, the premiums will rise drastically, as predicted, Americans will finally feel the effects of Lord Trump and his policies. When the MAGAs see for themselves, what Trump has caused and feel the pain, then and only then, will they understand who Trump is, what the GOP has become and that we were not lying.

I bet there is not a single person here who has not tried to reason with the Trumpsters and realized what a waste of time and effort that is. That will change when they reap what they have sown. Save them and they will thank Trump and still vote against you as they degrade and insult us and try to imprison out leaders including Biden and Obama.

What about us and our families?
Let’s kill Obamacare and have the Blue states set up a regional Blue state program just like the Affordable Care Act and run it among ourselves and not let any Trump states join.

I am tired of my Blue State dollars funding healthcare for those that take our money and then call us Socialists, Marxists, terrorists and anti-Americans suffering from TDS as they undermine democracy on behalf of a lying felon.
Time for serious action to save the nation from the mental disease that is called Trumpism

If this works we can do this with our own regional state run version of FEMA and even the CDC. Let Kennedy tell them to eat more red meat and cheese…and enjoy a pack of cigarettes while they are at it. I am tired of trying to save people from themselves.

Just a thought for discussion. Let’s keep it friendly.

[leftstreet]

1. You lost me at "give the GOP a win"

This is politics

[Playingmantis]

2. its a win that will choke them...thats the whole idea

[leftstreet]

3. Guess it's too clever for me to understand

What I hear:

Pat the PoOrS on the head and give them teh foods

Let the GOPers take away healthcare from THe rEsT oF US

Then (real?) "Americans will finally feel the effects of Lord Trump and his policies"

yeah...not sure I'm getting it

[Attilatheblond]

4. They will believe GOP pols who tell them DEMs took thier health care subsidies away from them

And it seems likely most will believe it. Media would be pounding the point. Truth doesn't enter into the politics.

Add to that, a lot of DEMs who have demanded their reps FIGHT would be mad as hell and probably withhold donations which would cause many DEM candidates to be hobbled and likely lose elections.

That is NOT a good plan.

[yellow dahlia]

7. The other day Sean Duffy said something about the pain of losing ACA subsidies,

and how it is the fault of the Democrats.

And his nose didn't grow. I think we should all have Pinocchio noses.

They lie with such impunity. And you're right - the magats believe them.

[Attilatheblond]

6. Won't choke them at all

Delusional people hold their delusions and the RW media will be sure there are stories to maintain those delusions.

DEM voters have begged our office holders to FIGHT. We do not what the politics of 'go along' to continue. Our DEM office holders ARE fighting. I prefer to help them get their messages spread and not just give up.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

5. I don't understand the idea of preventing people from accessing healthcare just because of where they live.

[Rebl2]

8. Exactly

Many democrats like me live in red states. I am too old at this point in my life to move, particularly because my husband and I are not in good health.

[ret5hd]

9. where is your line?

where do you stand and not fall back?

what policy will you not tolerate under any circumstances?

what…exactly…have they asked for and not received already?

dei? books? abortion? supreme court appointments? govt by edict? black history? redistricting? tariffs? foreign policy? attacks on foreign countries? immigration?

what the almighty fuck…the single goddamned item that seems to have them stymied at all and we should give them that too.

fuck that noise.

[Playingmantis]

10. In my defense

Nothing will change their minds until they get a sharp stick in the eye with no doubt as to who gave it to them..not talking or reasoning , pleading or threatening with change them

.Let them find out!

When they have no health insurance only the dumbest will be unable to see it..I am tired of saving them only to be shit on in return. Desperate times require desperate actons..


I like the saying "When the gods are most angry they give men exactly what they pray for.."

Let them suffer the consequences of their actions! They have to hit bottom before they change

How the hell else will they change? The Great Depression gave us Roosevelt..

Thats all from me on the subject

[WhiskeyGrinder]

11. "Thats all from me on the subject" well that wasn't much of a discussion