In Utah, Trump's vision for homelessness begins to take shape

[dalton99a]

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2025/10/30/utahs-homelessness-plan-aligns/

In Utah, Trump’s vision for homelessness begins to take shape
State officials promise large-scale involuntary addiction and mental health treatment at Salt Lake City’s edge. Critics see “a prison, or a warehouse.”
By Ellen Barry and Jason DeParle | The New York Times | Oct. 30, 2025, 7:00 a.m.

To glimpse the future of homelessness policy in the age of President Donald Trump, consider 16 acres of scrubby pasture on the outskirts of Salt Lake City where the state plans to place as many as 1,300 homeless people in what supporters call a services campus and critics deem a detention camp.

State planners say the site, announced last month after a secretive search, will treat addiction and mental illness and provide a humane alternative to the streets, where afflictions often go untreated and people die at alarming rates.

They also vow stern measures to move unhoused people to the remote site and force many of them to undergo treatment, reflecting a nationwide push by some conservatives for a new approach to homelessness, one embraced and promoted by Trump.

With outdoor sleeping banned, removal to the edge of town may become the only way some homeless Utahns can avoid jail. Planners say the facility will also hold hundreds of mentally ill homeless people under court-ordered civil commitment and the effort will include an “accountability center” for those with addictions.

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[pandr32]

1. This must never be!

Good gawd!

[Stacey Grove]

2. The mentally ill and "vagrants"

were some of the first concentration camp internees/prisoners in Nazi Germany - literally the birth of the camp system.

[cbabe]

3. This will not end well.

https://www.npr.org/2008/03/07/87975196/remembering-an-infamous-new-york-institution

Remembering an Infamous New York Institution
MARCH 7, 20087:00 AM ET

By the mid 1960s, Willowbrook, a Staten Island institution for mentally ill or delayed children, was filled to more than double its capacity. But crowding was the least of the horrors: Some residents of the state-run institution were reportedly used as test cases for hepatitis studies.

Others were left to languish, abused and living in squalor with little medical or mental health care. It wasn't until a print reporter named Jane Kurtin and then an aggressive 29-year-old investigative TV reporter — Geraldo Rivera — went in with hidden cameras that the world woke up to these forgotten children.

Now Vanessa Leigh DeBello tracks her mother's 16-year stay at the school in a new memoir Moron: A Daughter's Story of an Accidental Childhood in Willowbrook. "Moron" was one of three scientific terms established in the early 1900s for people with developmental delays. The strongest term was "idiot," followed by "imbecile."

… more … once again money to be made from suffering…

[WmChris]

4. Showers

Will they spew water or gas?

[bucolic_frolic]

5. Attempt to change behavior with metered abuse

Without enough money, it will fail.

[efhmc]

6. Are people "required" to be here and if so by what authority?

[1WorldHope]

7. Oh good! Men can restart commiting their wives to sanatoriums for "hysteria" ..

I'm already hysterical just thinking about it. 🤮

[sakabatou]

8. So sanitariums