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Is Erika Kirk... (Original Post) ultralite001 Nov 2025 OP
No - that is Donald Trump mr715 Nov 2025 #1
She is one focused, ambitious, manipulative woman. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #2
I doubt she will get far as she is a bad speaker womanofthehills Nov 2025 #9
Word salad is mandatory for the narcissistic manipulator. Has worked well for Trump and the Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #10
Did he ever think with the right psrt? ananda Nov 2025 #28
I am not sure he even has right parts. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #30
He's definitely missing a heart. ananda Nov 2025 #35
I get the same about Erika Kirk. The only reason she was with Charlie JI7 Nov 2025 #33
Have you seen the videos of Charlie & Candace Owens when they were young womanofthehills Nov 2025 #40
She wore shiny black leather tight pants viva la Nov 2025 #3
Her sexuality is her own thing. mr715 Nov 2025 #7
This is more than a coping mechanism. It is blind ambition and manipulation. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #11
The sex will be good though BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2025 #12
Only at first, she will do anything he wants. But soon he will only have the couch. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #13
Ha!! BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2025 #14
One of these types married into the British Royal Family. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #15
Oh absolutely BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2025 #16
Vance is being very foolish. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #17
He's worthless anyway BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2025 #18
Yes Vance wears enough make up to think he could be a Hollywood star. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #19
Just a few years ago BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2025 #20
Vance is entirely transactional. He has no moral core, no center. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #21
What the Hell? Brenda Nov 2025 #23
I hate evil psychopaths. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #24
So Meghan is an evil psychopath? Brenda Nov 2025 #25
This thread sure went off the rails Dr. Shepper Nov 2025 #31
At this point, she's an opportunist in a cult. Jmo Deuxcents Nov 2025 #4
Erica was in the reality show "Summer House" womanofthehills Nov 2025 #39
Ha! Good one. Joinfortmill Nov 2025 #5
This meme is from Swede on his thread Submariner Nov 2025 #6
That photo reminds me so much of this 1944 movie, Double Indemnity taxi Nov 2025 #22
you mean, on top of the other hallucinatory gibberish? stopdiggin Nov 2025 #8
I think she just had her "I like to sail!" moment. I had better explain......... DFW Nov 2025 #26
Another wonderful vignette. cachukis Nov 2025 #34
It has been a while since I had thought about that one. DFW Nov 2025 #37
A great way to remember is to tell the tale. cachukis Nov 2025 #38
She wasn't born when it was written. nt Gore1FL Nov 2025 #27
I think she's just an ordinary harlot. Trumpty Dumpty on the other hand.... DemMedic Nov 2025 #29
She appears, to me, to be... Mike Nelson Nov 2025 #32
JD + Erika both ultralite001 Nov 2025 #36

mr715

(3,564 posts)
1. No - that is Donald Trump
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 07:57 PM
Nov 2025

Erika Trump is a figure of little consequence. Convince me otherwise.

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
2. She is one focused, ambitious, manipulative woman.
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 07:58 PM
Nov 2025

Who will stop at nothing to get what she wants.

We need to keep on eye on this one.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
9. I doubt she will get far as she is a bad speaker
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 10:13 PM
Nov 2025

Kind of like Scottsdale new age Christian speaker who makes no sense. After her speech at Turning Points (clips on X) all the comments were - what did she say?

When she speaks, she tilts her head and eyes upward like she’s talking with the lord and changes her cadence.

I read the comments to see if anyone could interpret what she said - but most everyone said they were stumped. She was talking about spiritual anniversaries.

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
10. Word salad is mandatory for the narcissistic manipulator. Has worked well for Trump and the
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 05:50 AM
Nov 2025

rest of his Trump Crime Syndicate.

I think she fits in perfectly.

In the Trump era, she has the potential to go far.

She has Vance on a short leash right now.
Let's see how far she can play him.

He is thinking with the wrong part of his body right now.

JI7

(93,614 posts)
33. I get the same about Erika Kirk. The only reason she was with Charlie
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 08:55 AM
Nov 2025

was the success and financial gains from his political movement. Charlie was an incel and Erika was probably the only woman that was interested in him.

Vance is another loser who put out the fake story and tries to present some image of himself. I can totally see him leaving his wife for Erika Kirk if he thinks it would benefit him politically with the racist maga supporters.

While Melania and Usha Vance don't seem into doing things publicly in their role as first and second ladies I think Erika would love it . And I mean mostly the Socialite side of it.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
40. Have you seen the videos of Charlie & Candace Owens when they were young
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 03:24 PM
Nov 2025

Everyone says they were definitely into each other big time. He and Candace toured the country together every day for two yrs. She posted pics of them dancing, singing, fishing - she said he was like her little bro but he looked in love, Candace who remained his bestie throughout both their marriages Iis now the biggest researcher on Charlie’s death. In fact now that’s she’s questioning how Charlie was killed and turning against Cash Patel & Trump she has 5.5 million followers on YouTube alone.




viva la

(4,598 posts)
3. She wore shiny black leather tight pants
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 07:59 PM
Nov 2025

And a clingy t-shirt, and speaking of clinging.... from the side, it sure looks like she's frenching on Vance with his wife looking on. 6 weeks after her husband was killed.

She's trading up. She thinks she can get some real power through him.

Let's hope the wife dumps him.

mr715

(3,564 posts)
7. Her sexuality is her own thing.
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 08:10 PM
Nov 2025

I will submit that her hand placement and hug...vigor suggests to me, a lay observer, something a bit more than platonic.

This may be her coping mechanism. Her last preening asshole arrogant husband is around so she is taking solace in his doppleganger. And his doppleganger is smiling like "jackpot".

Usha doesn't strike me as a strong woman. Why would she associate with Vance - certainly not his incandescent charisma.

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
11. This is more than a coping mechanism. It is blind ambition and manipulation.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 05:55 AM
Nov 2025

Her last meal ticket was killed.
She is looking for her next ride up the ladder of success.

Vance is taking quite a gamble.

He is used to a low key, quiet wife who lets him take the lead.

Widow Kirk is a totally different person.

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
13. Only at first, she will do anything he wants. But soon he will only have the couch.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:02 AM
Nov 2025

Which of course is good enough for Vance.

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
15. One of these types married into the British Royal Family.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:12 AM
Nov 2025

It has been a real case study watching her in action.

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
17. Vance is being very foolish.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:18 AM
Nov 2025

He is used to a nice, compliant, quiet wife.
He thinks she is a liability and unexciting.

Vance is making the biggest mistake of his life.

BeerBarrelPolka

(2,173 posts)
18. He's worthless anyway
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:22 AM
Nov 2025

He's another talentless phony. Maybe he'll end up on a game show just like the Duchess? He has the eyelashes for it!

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
19. Yes Vance wears enough make up to think he could be a Hollywood star.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:42 AM
Nov 2025

But yes like MM he has no talent whatsoever.

BeerBarrelPolka

(2,173 posts)
20. Just a few years ago
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:51 AM
Nov 2025

Vance called Trump a Hitler. That's strong words. How do you flip from that? He's a POS and only sycophants would support him.

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
21. Vance is entirely transactional. He has no moral core, no center.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:56 AM
Nov 2025

He is an opportunist who goes where the wind takes him.

Widow Vance is the same.

What a pair they will make.

Brenda

(2,053 posts)
23. What the Hell?
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 07:39 AM
Nov 2025

You're talking about Meghan Markle? She has no talent? Ummmm, you do realize she had a successful acting career right and was paid millions for it? You're comparing her to Kirk's wife?

Oh, and she is a liberal Democrat who spent her own money and time promoting things like Hillary Clinton's run for the presidency, against Brexit, support of Ireland legalizing abortion, supported Kentanji Brown Jackson, supports the ERA, etc. etc.

Why on Earth do people hate her so much? Is it because she's not white?

taxi

(2,711 posts)
22. That photo reminds me so much of this 1944 movie, Double Indemnity
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 07:00 AM
Nov 2025

Fred MacMurray, Barbara Stanwyck, and Edward G. Robinson in an instructional video that JD should have paid more attention to.

[link:https://m.

DFW

(60,179 posts)
26. I think she just had her "I like to sail!" moment. I had better explain.........
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 07:43 AM
Nov 2025

Outside of DU, there are maybe four people left alive who would understand this, so please bear with me.

After the European part of World War II ended in 1945, the U.S. Army was confronted with the overwhelming logistical task of transporting millions of soldiers back across the Atlantic, and they just didn't have enough ships to get it done right away. They set up a system where requests went out all over friendly European countries for individuals or families who would temporarily offer to house our GIs who didn't have pressing family situations that required priority return. My father was one who claimed no pressing priority. When families offered to take our guys in, they were asked if there was anything that would make a prospective boarder especially suited to stay with them. My dad had studied French in college, but that was about it, since being a baseball fan wasn't going to resonate with 1940s continental Europeans.

One day, his CO came in the tent where he and others of his unit were waiting around to hear if anything had come up for them. His CO asked if there was anyone who liked to sail. My dad had no interest whatsoever in sailing, but since it was an unusual question, he had the presence of mind to ask why. His CO explained that there was this rich Swiss family with a big villa on the shore of Lake Geneva in Switzerland, and...."I like to sail!" my dad's voice rang out before the CO could finish his sentence. I don't even remember how many weeks he stayed there, but he had a great time, and the friendship that developed lasted long enough for them to invite me, 25 years later, as an 18 year old high school grad who spoke rudimentary French, to stay with them for a few days on my first solo trip through Europe. To give you an idea, my bible was "Europe on $5 a day." This was (I found out later) one of the richest families in all of western Switzerland, but they didn't act like it at all. Their villa was beautiful, but for its simplicity as much as anything else. A huge wheat field in back of the house led down to a lake dock where, just as my dad probably saw when he got there the first time, a sailboat was moored. I had only the address.

When I first got to their village, I showed the address to some of the local people, they looked at me, a scruffy American student with hair all over the place, and asked, "are you sure you are looking for THAT address?" I said, "yes, my parents gave it to me and said they were friends of theirs." They rolled their eyes, shrugged a "whatever" and told me how to find it. What did I know? When I finally went into the city of Geneva, I saw that 75% of the construction sites bore the name of the family I was staying with. Oh, NOW I get it. It must have been like some Swiss hippie arriving in New York, saying he was supposed to be staying with friends of his parents, and did anybody know the address of a family named Rockefeller?

So, I think here is Erika Kirk, an opportunistic, clever, but otherwise uninspiring woman who suddenly found herself teetering on the edge of obscurity. She sensed that if she didn't hook up quickly with some influential people to prop her up, she, and the source of her comfortable income, would shrivel into insignificance.

It looks like Vance showed up just in time to ask her if she might like to be close to the owners of the villa for a while. In other words, to use my dad's metaphor from his tent in France, Erika recognized her chance and her moment, and yelled out, "I like to sail!"

DFW

(60,179 posts)
37. It has been a while since I had thought about that one.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 01:47 PM
Nov 2025

But it seemed to fit this time.

cachukis

(3,932 posts)
38. A great way to remember is to tell the tale.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 01:55 PM
Nov 2025

Most of story telling has been from memory. Repetition has kept alive so much history. Yours touched on a part of reality facing post war GI's.
It is evident your perspicacity has roots.
So nice to relive some of the moments that got us here.

DemMedic

(595 posts)
29. I think she's just an ordinary harlot. Trumpty Dumpty on the other hand....
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 07:56 AM
Nov 2025

He may be the Beast.

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
32. She appears, to me, to be...
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 08:22 AM
Nov 2025

... a dramatic actress. She's very good, but not versatile. The best dramatic actors can change for the medium... silents... talkies... stage... TV... media... I would advise her to tone it all down. It's difficult, but manageable. She's playing to the "live" audience from a stage well, but the camera are there for their close-ups and clips. Less dabbing of the eyes - only when a real tear can be summoned. More modest wardrobe and huggy kissy contact.

ultralite001

(2,551 posts)
36. JD + Erika both
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 11:51 AM
Nov 2025

Have the eyes of Tammy Faye…





More for those w/ strong stomachs…





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