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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,696 posts)
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 08:08 PM Nov 2025

America's Impending Population Collapse

Republicans have a net-zero goal they can finally get behind: not for carbon emissions but for immigration. And they may achieve it as soon as this year. In a July white paper, three economists projected that, in a remarkable departure from decades-long patterns, more foreign-born people will likely leave the United States in 2025 than will enter. In the three months since, the Trump administration’s aggressive actions have driven net migration even lower than expected, one of the authors, Wendy Edelberg of the Brookings Institution, told me. Student-visa numbers are lower than previously anticipated. In September, the Department of Homeland Security boasted that since President Donald Trump’s return to office, it had deported 400,000 people, more than triple the pace of deportations under the Biden administration; it has billions more to spend on further enforcement efforts, courtesy of Congress and the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. An unknown number of people have voluntarily left the country rather than be forced out.

We will not know with certainty for some time whether America has hit net zero, but the White House is already claiming victory. “Promises Made. Promises Kept. NEGATIVE NET MIGRATION for the First Time in 50 Years!” Trump declared on Truth Social in August. Prompted by a CNN report, that claim could, if anything, prove to be too restrained. If the United States experiences negative migration in 2025 and, as seems likely, 2026, it will probably be the first net outflow in nearly a century.

To “America First” true believers, the recent trend heralds a return to a halcyon era. “Finically [sic], culturally, militarily—immigration was net negative. All population growth was from family formation,” Stephen Miller, Trump’s deputy chief of staff, wrote on X in August. The best data we have, derived from the decennial census, suggest that Miller was incorrect. In the buoyant decades after World War II, net migration was low compared with the Ellis Island era of the early 20th century, but still positive. According to census data, the only decade in American history when migration was net negative was the 1930s—during the Great Depression.

For the past decade, nativism has proved politically potent enough to carry Trump to the Oval Office twice. It may be powerful enough to bring net migration down to zero, perhaps for some time. If that happens, the America that emerges will be reduced, not just by lower economic growth but also by a shrinking population. The notion that this would at least leave native-born Americans better off is also far-fetched. We know because the United States has tried it before.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/net-zero-immigration-103000758.html

A bunch of racist assholes without a clue.

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America's Impending Population Collapse (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2025 OP
Ask Japan how negative population growth is working out for them. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2025 #1
MAGA will start wondering where the money is leftstreet Nov 2025 #2
Trump's administration is still lying about EVERYTHING Wiz Imp Nov 2025 #3
Cruelty as goverment policy is a very strong motivator to drive people away GoodRaisin Nov 2025 #4

leftstreet

(40,666 posts)
2. MAGA will start wondering where the money is
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 08:41 PM
Nov 2025

They've been certain immigrants were getting fReE sTuff and costing US mOneY! That's money that should be spent on reaL 'Merikans!

So, when the imagined bountiful rewards of negative immigration don't start showing up...

DURec

Wiz Imp

(9,991 posts)
3. Trump's administration is still lying about EVERYTHING
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 10:19 PM
Nov 2025

Fore example, this is a lie: "In September, the Department of Homeland Security boasted that since President Donald Trump’s return to office, it had deported 400,000 people, more than triple the pace of deportations under the Biden administration;"

https://stateline.org/2025/10/30/removals-from-inside-us-outnumber-border-deportations-for-the-first-time-since-2014/

Removals from inside US outnumber border deportations for the first time since 2014
As border quiets, total deportations expected to be lower than Biden totals, report finds.

The Trump administration now expects about 600,000 total deportations in 2025, fewer than under the Biden administration’s final fiscal year, as a drop in border crossings outweighs the effect of increased deportations elsewhere, according to a report released Oct. 30 by the Migration Policy Institute, a nonpartisan think tank.

State and local officials are kept in the dark by limited information on deportations, the report noted, whether or not they support the administration’s mass removal agenda.

There were 685,000 total deportations in fiscal year 2024 under Biden compared with the 600,000 projected by the Trump administration for this calendar year, the report states.

During the 2025 fiscal year that ended in September, there were about 340,000 deportations, the report estimates, including both orders of removal and people choosing to end detention with voluntary departure. The Trump administration has projected 600,000 deportations for this calendar year, well short of an earlier goal of 1 million.

GoodRaisin

(10,922 posts)
4. Cruelty as goverment policy is a very strong motivator to drive people away
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 10:30 PM
Nov 2025

and prevent them from coming.

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