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Republicans have a net-zero goal they can finally get behind: not for carbon emissions but for immigration. And they may achieve it as soon as this year. In a July white paper, three economists projected that, in a remarkable departure from decades-long patterns, more foreign-born people will likely leave the United States in 2025 than will enter. In the three months since, the Trump administrations aggressive actions have driven net migration even lower than expected, one of the authors, Wendy Edelberg of the Brookings Institution, told me. Student-visa numbers are lower than previously anticipated. In September, the Department of Homeland Security boasted that since President Donald Trumps return to office, it had deported 400,000 people, more than triple the pace of deportations under the Biden administration; it has billions more to spend on further enforcement efforts, courtesy of Congress and the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. An unknown number of people have voluntarily left the country rather than be forced out.
We will not know with certainty for some time whether America has hit net zero, but the White House is already claiming victory. Promises Made. Promises Kept. NEGATIVE NET MIGRATION for the First Time in 50 Years! Trump declared on Truth Social in August. Prompted by a CNN report, that claim could, if anything, prove to be too restrained. If the United States experiences negative migration in 2025 and, as seems likely, 2026, it will probably be the first net outflow in nearly a century.
To America First true believers, the recent trend heralds a return to a halcyon era. Finically [sic], culturally, militarilyimmigration was net negative. All population growth was from family formation, Stephen Miller, Trumps deputy chief of staff, wrote on X in August. The best data we have, derived from the decennial census, suggest that Miller was incorrect. In the buoyant decades after World War II, net migration was low compared with the Ellis Island era of the early 20th century, but still positive. According to census data, the only decade in American history when migration was net negative was the 1930sduring the Great Depression.
For the past decade, nativism has proved politically potent enough to carry Trump to the Oval Office twice. It may be powerful enough to bring net migration down to zero, perhaps for some time. If that happens, the America that emerges will be reduced, not just by lower economic growth but also by a shrinking population. The notion that this would at least leave native-born Americans better off is also far-fetched. We know because the United States has tried it before.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/net-zero-immigration-103000758.html
A bunch of racist assholes without a clue.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,219 posts)leftstreet
(40,666 posts)They've been certain immigrants were getting fReE sTuff and costing US mOneY! That's money that should be spent on reaL 'Merikans!
So, when the imagined bountiful rewards of negative immigration don't start showing up...
DURec
Wiz Imp
(9,991 posts)Fore example, this is a lie: "In September, the Department of Homeland Security boasted that since President Donald Trumps return to office, it had deported 400,000 people, more than triple the pace of deportations under the Biden administration;"
https://stateline.org/2025/10/30/removals-from-inside-us-outnumber-border-deportations-for-the-first-time-since-2014/
As border quiets, total deportations expected to be lower than Biden totals, report finds.
The Trump administration now expects about 600,000 total deportations in 2025, fewer than under the Biden administrations final fiscal year, as a drop in border crossings outweighs the effect of increased deportations elsewhere, according to a report released Oct. 30 by the Migration Policy Institute, a nonpartisan think tank.
State and local officials are kept in the dark by limited information on deportations, the report noted, whether or not they support the administrations mass removal agenda.
There were 685,000 total deportations in fiscal year 2024 under Biden compared with the 600,000 projected by the Trump administration for this calendar year, the report states.
During the 2025 fiscal year that ended in September, there were about 340,000 deportations, the report estimates, including both orders of removal and people choosing to end detention with voluntary departure. The Trump administration has projected 600,000 deportations for this calendar year, well short of an earlier goal of 1 million.
GoodRaisin
(10,922 posts)and prevent them from coming.