"Usha, I want you to be a good Christian like me." - Vance.

[Wonder Why]

A fine example for her as he "consoles" Kirk's widow.

[DFW]

1. One minor detail, JD: There may be "good Christians," and there might be "Christians like you"

However, "Good Christians like you" seems to be a rather stark contradiction in terms.

It's either one, the other, or none of the above. I stopped believing in the tooth fairly long ago.

[ret5hd]

2. kinda reminds me of this:

[paleotn]

17. Irony is, I'd rather go to Hell than spend eternity with those goobers. THAT would be hell.

[republianmushroom]

55. Amen !

[Arazi]

3. I wouldn't be surprised if his ambition doesn't shred their marriage

When they married, he hadn’t yet fallen down the rightwing extremist hole. Being Peter Thiel’s puppet didnt require overt religiosity - he just needed that raw depraved desire for money.

Indians/Hindus have many many centuries of their own proud culture and religion, and consider their world far superior to anything the US can offer. Usha and her family are extremely high caste and could have plausibly expected JD to adopt into their world.

They obviously didn't push it on him. Because that’s shitty.

Yet here he is bringing the not-so-subtle pressure.

Now he has presidential aspirations and she’s embarrassing as both brown and a “heathen” (in rightwing circles. I’m atheist and don’t give a shit). Guessing she either converts or gets pushed out. She’s as craven as he is imo. I have zero sympathy for her. She knew what she married.

[PJMcK]

4. Vance's statements about his wife's faith are disgusting

Faith should be a private matter. His mixed faith marriage is not something for public discussion since it represents a conflict in their relationship. His comments and hopes for his marriage should be kept private.

But Vance is an opportunistic pig. It’s unfathomable to me how Usha has any respect for him… or herself.

[Arazi]

5. Oh I think Usha is as craven as he is - she clerked for Roberts and Kegger Kav

She’s as hardcore rightwing as he is. I have zero sympathy for her.

It will just be karma coming back to bite her if JD throws her over for a “Christian” (*grifter*) influencer like Erika Kirk.

But yes, to your point, it’s just another data point reflecting JD’s character that he’s willing to air this conflict in public

[UpInArms]

48. They are probably negotiating the details

of her political future in a monopoly game sort of way

Like trading Baltimore for park place

[GoneOffShore]

6. Usha would make him sleep on the couch, but he'd enjoy that.

[IronLionZion]

7. Eww

[maspaha]

37. The couch and the kids are the only innocent victims of that unholy alliance

[niyad]

8. Am I missing something? Was that an actual quote, as some of the

posts seem to indicate?

[GusBob]

10. It was at a trurning point event

He was asked about her religion and his reply was something like the OP

I think it was a set up, Fuentes used to plant dissenters at Kirk’s events to ask questions

[niyad]

15. We all know him to be a craven pos, but. .wow!!!

[womanofthehills]

52. Fuentes has over million followers on X

And he recently said he will have 10,000 Groypers at every JD event if JD crosses a “red line” for them.

[Arazi]

12. Yes. He said he wants her to convert in a Turning Point speech a couple days ago

Where he and Erika Kirk shared a very close and intimate hug onstage

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/01/jd-vance-usha-christianity

[niyad]

18. Thank you for the Guardian link. Sickening. The three of them deserve

each other.

[onenote]

16. Here is the actual quote:

"For us, it works out now most Sundays, Usha will come with me to church, as I've told her, and I've said publicly, and I'll say now in front of 10,000 of my closest friends, do I hope eventually that she is somehow moved by the same thing that I was moved in by church. Yeah, I honestly, I do wish that, because I believe in the Christian Gospel, and I hope eventually my wife comes to see it the same way. But if she doesn't, then God says everybody has free will, and so that doesn't cause a problem for me.”

He followed it up with a subsequent statement: "My Christian faith tells me the Gospel is true and is good for human beings. My wife -- as I said at the TPUSA -- is the most amazing blessing I have in my life. She herself encouraged me to reengage with my faith many years ago. She is not a Christian and has no plans to convert, but like many people in an interfaith marriage -- or any interfaith relationship -- I hope she may one day see things as I do. Regardless, I'll continue to love and support her and talk to her about faith and life and everything else, because she's my wife."

[niyad]

19. Thank you. I am glad that I had not eaten yet.

[LymphocyteLover]

23. I wonder if Usha regrets telling him "to reengage" with "his faith"?

Because he's turned into a right monster since then.

[Xavier Breath]

25. Then maybe it is you who should see things as she does, asshole.

[IbogaProject]

40. "10,000 of my closest friends" ??

Whoa, 10K & closest is weird at best. I'd be suprised if he had more than ten friends at all He likely has a large circle of grifter acquaintances at best. Dude couldn't even order donuts to share making it obvious he had only ever bought gifts with an agenda. This is a proverbial Devil vs the Deep Blue Sea or a Frying Pan, Fire situation with him next in line for the Presidency.

[mr715]

60. Cult move

Actually savvy. But yeah, it is a rhetorical trick, or alternatively, a lie.

Calling them his "10,000" "close" "friends" reminds me of Marc Antony at Caesar's funeral.

He is maintaining a slow burn in the incel youth male demographic. It cultivates pathos which will make his inevitable grievance worship so much more powerful later. I suspect he and Rubio are being played against each other and Vance's naked ambition is going to win out over Rubio's cowed (cucked) technocratic cowardice.

[Irish_Dem]

9. He is pushing for a divorce.

[Paladin]

27. She ought to oblige him. Just as soon and as publicly as possible. (nt)

[Bernardo de La Paz]

39. I read that she was in the audience. . . . nt

[Irish_Dem]

46. So widow Kirk wanted her to see the sexual performance.

[Bristlecone]

11. I think he is laying the public groundwork for their coming divorce

They’ve been reportedly on the rocks for a while. This will justify the divorce in the eyes of the base. It would not surprise me if the Erika Kirk thing is his end goal either.

“She was a ‘heathen,’ he had no choice.”

I sincerely do not think he would make that directed of a call, invoking her name specifically, without a much deeper motive and hopeful positive outcome for himself - and “Christianity” is not it - imo.

[travelingthrulife]

33. MAGA and evangelical christians have one of the highest rates of divorce.

Doubt they would bat an eye.

Even they can't stand each other

[womanofthehills]

53. He's a practicing Roman Catholic

Baptized in 2019 at St. Gertrude Priory in Ohio. According to AI, his kids go to Catholic school.

Interesting- lots of Republicans becoming Catholic lately. Even Charlie Kirk reportedly had a Catholic burial.

[Wonder Why]

63. Not so unusual. In Souhern Italy, a lot of atheist Communists would be baptized and buried in the Church "just in case".

My parents told me about it but I witnessed that kind of behavior when we visited my cousins in Calabria back in 2007. One cousin, a devout atheist, was on the Town Council. when the local church had a procession, she was out there leading the way. Whether it was just politics on her part or "just in case", I don't know because she couldn't speak English and we didn't speak Italian so I couldn't ask her a personal question like that without an interpreter.

Belief is in following the precepts of the claimed religion, not making the religion bend to your opinion. Moreover, moving from one religion to another to find one who's distorted view matches yours, is not religion either. If one claims to be Christian but doesn't like the "wokeness" of Christ, one is not a Christian. One can stay or leave a a particular Christian faith based on its rituals but to deny the basic tenets of that religion, means, IMHO, you are not a believer. Religion in that case is just a crutch or, worse, an excuse for your bad behavior.

[Irish_Dem]

47. Yes he has an agenda.

[Collimator]

13. America's willingness to accept first Reagan, then Trump. . .

. . . shows that divorce is no longer a bar to being elected. I am not old enough to remember Adlai Stevenson, but from what I understand, his status as a divorced man caused many people to doubt that he could "run a country" since he couldn't even hold his marriage together.

[Anxy]

14. Christ multiplied the food

Vance takes food stamps away.

[niyad]

21. Welcome to our DU family.

[Anxy]

66. Thanks!

[William Seger]

32. And he told the multitude to treat each other as they would want to be treated.

So, let's cut off Vance's paycheck and his healthcare.

[Mtnmama]

20. Reminds me of Mahatma Gandhi's quote

About being a Christian: "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians." Sums up how I feel totally, except for a few that really do embrace Christ's teachings.

[niyad]

24. The rest of the quote: "Your christians are so unlike your christ."

[Mtnmama]

43. Vance, it seems to me, is just another republican

Using Christianity as a means to gain political power. It is the ultimate sacrilege, but a lot of people are fooled. Shame on them!

[William Seger]

56. When #rump was asked about his favorite Bible verse...

... he strained his little brain for a few seconds and come up with: "Well, I think many. I mean, you know, when we get into the Bible, I think many. So many. And some people—look, an eye for an eye, you can almost say that. That’s not a particularly nice thing. But you know, if you look at what’s happening to our country, I mean, when you see what’s going on with our country, how people are taking advantage of us, and how they scoff at us and laugh at us."

Presumably, he was talking about Old Testament verses, apparently unaware of what Christ actually said about that: instead of taking an eye for an eye, turn the other cheek. He called that and other teachings that contradicted the Old Testament a "new covenant." For some pathological reason, people who reject all of it still call themselves Christian.

I gave up religion when I was a teenager, but Christ's teachings about morality have never left me.

[Mtnmama]

57. Yes, I'm not a "religious" person,

But I believe steadfastly that the two teachings of Christ, that the holy spirit is the spirit of truth, and to do unto others as you would have them do to you, are the embodiment of being a Christian. Simple, but profound. Basically all I need.

[William Seger]

58. And it shouldn't take fear of eternal burning in hell

... to just not be shitty to other people. But they live in a culture that believes that all hell will break lose without fear of authoritarian 'father figures.' Problem is, they have chosen 'daddies' who don't seem to know much about Jesus but give the kids permission to call themselves Christian, anyway.

[travelingthrulife]

36. I remember that one a lot too.

It is that compulsion to convert people that is especially repulsive. They wear their 'converts' like scalps on their belt. I see the 'glory to god' type of exclamations about some kid of theirs accepting Jesus after they scared the shit out of them with heaven and hell stories.

[surfered]

22. Didn't he kill the Pope?

[mr715]

61. Yup.

Showed up and bam, next day, conclave.

Pope Francis was likely bored to death.

[Mz Pip]

26. Read the words of Jesus, JD.

Might learn something from the Sermon on the Mount.

[58Sunliner]

28. Utterly sick and completely staged. Vance does not have wide maggat support, so he uses the widow and the widow uses him

Instant base? For all I know Vance is a Thiel puppet because Thiel has compromising info on Vance being "bisexual". Thiel orchestrated the whole change of Vance's earlier positions to gain a base for Vance that would allow his agenda.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

41. Thiel is (hypocritically) gay, even married a man. Sec Scott Bessent is gay, married to a man and a Soros acolyte.

maga is so ignorant of reality.

[sop]

29. Racist MAGA voters (unnecessary tautology?) will be pleased when Kash and J.D. swap women.

Hillbilly Vance can hook up with hot Nashville country singer Alexis Wilkins, and Patel can take Usha and the kids off Vance's hands. MAGA christian nationalists prefer candidates who stick with their own kind.

[littlemissmartypants]

30. He only really believes in cold hard cash. The real question is...

Is that what she worships? I say, if you study her background and beliefs then the answer is yes.

[Efilroft Sul]

31. Erika's leather pants reminded him of a Stickley he once knew.

[catbyte]

42. ...

Touché.

[Diamond_Dog]

34. It's going to be interesting

to see how enthusiastic hard core Maga voters will be when Ramaswamy is on the ballot for OH governor. Supposedly he has already been endorsed by the Ohio GOP.

[travelingthrulife]

38. Did that turd resurface again?

What state is he pretending to be from now?

[fujiyamasan]

64. The Kirk Nazi youth didn't seem to like him very much

There’s an opening for a white Christian nationalist candidate in the primary that would likely win the nomination.

[Historic NY]

35. Holy Cow!!

[Johonny]

44. Remember hes been Catholic for like 5 months

[ananda]

45. I've decided that some women just have no pride.

I know what I think.

[bluestarone]

49. I just gotta say, how can anyone doing what these creeps are doing to others, claim any

Connection to Jesus? That just blows me away!! Most unholy of unholy, that's exactly who they are!!

[flashman13]

50. She needs to ditch the A-hole and take every cent she can lay her hands on with her.

[Iggo]

51. I'm a good christian, just like him.

Of course, I’m an atheist.

[MontanaMama]

54. I've got no love for Usha, but

I hope she dumps Vance’s doughy ass yesterday.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

59. Usha should just go all Shiva on him

Hindu god of destruction

[mr715]

62. Kali would probably be more appropriate. nt

[Retrograde]

65. Make up your mind

JD - do you want her to be a good Christian or do you want her to be like you. I recall something about you deliberately spreading lies about your Haitian constituents not that long ago