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bluestarone

(22,174 posts)
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 01:37 PM Nov 2025

Can i ask these questions, without getting anyone upset?

A republican group bought dominion voting machines. Will they be used in next Tuesdays election? So, my question is, will we be able to insure all future election are secure? If so, HOW? Could someone here explain the process making sure all is well? TY

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Can i ask these questions, without getting anyone upset? (Original Post) bluestarone Nov 2025 OP
For starters, does your state/local government use Dominion voting machines? Ocelot II Nov 2025 #1
Have no idea. Will ck if North Dakota does, but i do not think so. bluestarone Nov 2025 #2
here Timewas Nov 2025 #31
List... Greg_In_SF Nov 2025 #3
Somewhat worried about some of these states. bluestarone Nov 2025 #5
My Secretary of State (CO), Jenna Griswold has been President of the Democratic Secretaries of States for hlthe2b Nov 2025 #15
I know that our county in NJ Mossfern Nov 2025 #29
The voting machines aren't the problem, it's the damn white wing voters and those too lazy to vote. Silent Type Nov 2025 #4
I truly wish i had your confidence. bluestarone Nov 2025 #7
Jim Baker and the Voting commission Blue Full Moon Nov 2025 #6
The other problem: cbabe Nov 2025 #8
this is not going to be an issue. ICE is not targeting polling places. stopdiggin Nov 2025 #10
I hope you're right. Never thought ice would target preschools or churches either. cbabe Nov 2025 #13
I'll be the second one on this thread to say, "It's not the machines .." stopdiggin Nov 2025 #9
That was before a Trump sympathizer bought BlueKota Nov 2025 #18
I'll wait for (solid) evidence .. stopdiggin Nov 2025 #21
The key there is thus far. BlueKota Nov 2025 #27
The machines functioned exactly as they were supposed to Nittersing Nov 2025 #11
The voting machines are computers and no one can see what goes on inside them questionseverything Nov 2025 #12
On the contrary, like all computers they are programmed by humans Ocelot II Nov 2025 #14
Last, best hacker wins! questionseverything Nov 2025 #19
and testing. and running trials and diagnosis before and after ... - -(nt)- stopdiggin Nov 2025 #22
Many in this thread seem to be saying this is not an issue. I think that is just a nutty take on it. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #16
Agreed. hamsterjill Nov 2025 #34
Damn NY uses them. BlueKota Nov 2025 #17
Have a look at EFF.ORG -- the Electronic Frontier Foundation Hekate Nov 2025 #20
Based on the list posted here CT does not have them. CTyankee Nov 2025 #23
I never thought a guy who orchestrated an insurrection Emile Nov 2025 #24
One thing i'm thinking about is, bluestarone Nov 2025 #25
Computers can be programmed to do one thing during testing and another during actual use questionseverything Nov 2025 #33
I guess that's true! bluestarone Nov 2025 #35
One of the many "results" that doesn't jibe. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #30
Ivanka trump got trademarks for Voting Machines from China (and coffins)) IcyPeas Nov 2025 #26
I think priority #1 is to figure out how to make sure elections are secure - free and fair. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #28
The rules don't apply anymore JustAnotherGen Nov 2025 #32

Ocelot II

(130,516 posts)
1. For starters, does your state/local government use Dominion voting machines?
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 01:39 PM
Nov 2025

Not all of them do.

bluestarone

(22,174 posts)
2. Have no idea. Will ck if North Dakota does, but i do not think so.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 01:41 PM
Nov 2025

Is there a list of states that use them? Will ck that out.

Timewas

(2,739 posts)
31. here
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 08:47 PM
Nov 2025

Aaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, & Wisconsin. Puerto Rico also uses systems from Dominion, but isn't a state.

Greg_In_SF

(1,244 posts)
3. List...
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 01:49 PM
Nov 2025

Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, & Wisconsin.

bluestarone

(22,174 posts)
5. Somewhat worried about some of these states.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 01:59 PM
Nov 2025

I'm sure i'm not alone. Gotta trust the Democrats in these states, i guess.

hlthe2b

(113,947 posts)
15. My Secretary of State (CO), Jenna Griswold has been President of the Democratic Secretaries of States for
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 02:54 PM
Nov 2025

a number of years, as well as our own SOS. She was the one who caught Tina Peters (Mesa County) trying to allow unauthorized access into voter data in the last election, and assisted the REPUBLICAN prosecutor as he took her to trial (she now is serving 9 years for which Trump is beside himself, threatening anyone and everyone). So, that is a long-winded way of saying she is the real deal and has been on top of these voting machines--not only for Colorado. So, I echo those on this thread that are saying "it is not the machines" we should be worried about, but you can inquire as I suggest below, nonetheless.

I do not know what North Dakota or your small group of Republicans is trying to do. Is there ANY investigative reporting there (TV news or what is left of the local newspaper?)

Have you contacted the local democratic party with your concerns to ask what their thoughts are and whether they are doing anything to stay on top of these issues? Even if your state SOS is a Republican, that does not automatically mean they are not following state law. Maybe contact them as well and ask what they are doing to ensure voter integrity at the local level across the state--including electronic machines.

Mossfern

(4,715 posts)
29. I know that our county in NJ
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 08:40 PM
Nov 2025

has paper backup.
We vote by filling in those tiny circles and the paper is fed into the voting machine that swallows it and records those little circles.
If there are questions about the result, the paper ballots can be read and recorded by humans.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
4. The voting machines aren't the problem, it's the damn white wing voters and those too lazy to vote.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 01:59 PM
Nov 2025

bluestarone

(22,174 posts)
7. I truly wish i had your confidence.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 02:08 PM
Nov 2025

Just saying. I'm headed outside for awhile i'll be away.

Blue Full Moon

(3,484 posts)
6. Jim Baker and the Voting commission
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 02:03 PM
Nov 2025

Stated that insiders were a threat. He used the example of casino using slot machines to do money laundering to Russians. The casino, tRump's Taj Mahal casino, 106 counts.

cbabe

(6,642 posts)
8. The other problem:
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 02:11 PM
Nov 2025
https://www.rawstory.com/ice-2674257695/

'They may be arrested': ICE makes startling admission on election monitoring operation

Alexander Willis
November 2, 2025 12:08PM ET

With millions of voters expected to descend to the polls Tuesday in a series of off-year elections, including in California where voters will vote on a constitutional amendment to redraw the state’s congressional districts, the Trump administration made a startling admission regarding how its poll monitors may operate on Election Day.

The Trump administration has deployed Justice Department officials to monitor elections in both California and New Jersey, citing allegations of election “irregularities” from Republican leadership in both states, a move that critics have labeled as blatant “voter intimidation.”

The New York Times reported Sunday that officials with Immigration and Customs Enforcement said that while the agency would not target polling sites with immigration raids, there was one important caveat.

“If a dangerous criminal alien is near a polling location, they may be arrested as a result of that targeted enforcement action,” the statement read, as reported by the Times.

… more … CA will monitor the monitors for starters…

stopdiggin

(15,462 posts)
10. this is not going to be an issue. ICE is not targeting polling places.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 02:36 PM
Nov 2025

And the type of 'monitoring' the 'Justice' people have in mind - is two guys standing around with a clipboard ... Not particularly scary - or effectual. Rules for behavior and acceptable practice around polling sites are fairly well laid out and codified.

stopdiggin

(15,462 posts)
9. I'll be the second one on this thread to say, "It's not the machines .."
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 02:25 PM
Nov 2025

The problem is with the level of trust you have with the people (at state and local level) who are running your elections.
The is nothing inherently more vulnerable or subject to cheating about an election employing machines - than the plain old 'stuff the ballot box' (or a bunch of ballots getting 'lost' the storeroom?) type of chicanery that people have attempted for ages. (and in fact, a heck of a lot more in ages gone by than in current practice?)

Can't judge how trustworthy your opinion of your local officials is/are ...
But I will tell you that there is very, very little evidence for outright cheating and theft in recent elections. And that applies to both machines and people involved.

stopdiggin

(15,462 posts)
21. I'll wait for (solid) evidence ..
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:35 PM
Nov 2025

of machines being deliberately programed to yield erroneous results ...

Thus far - there is a heck of a lot more evidence and testimony to the contrary.

BlueKota

(5,342 posts)
27. The key there is thus far.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 08:33 PM
Nov 2025

The new owner just bought it, and was a Republicon election official. Just because the former owners didn't fix the machines to vote a certain way doesn't mean the new one won't.

Their party has demonstrated they have no respect for the law or honesty, so I think some suspicion about why this particular one bought the company is warranted.

Nittersing

(8,380 posts)
11. The machines functioned exactly as they were supposed to
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 02:37 PM
Nov 2025

Faux news and others tried to say they didn't, Dominion took them to court and won.

But now Scott Leiendecker has bought it. He has been active in elections, as a repub, for years.

Here's an article from NPR that will give you a good idea. https://www.npr.org/2025/10/11/nx-s1-5570868/analyzing-dominion-voting-systems-sale-to-firm-run-by-ex-republican-elections-official

Ocelot II

(130,516 posts)
14. On the contrary, like all computers they are programmed by humans
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 02:51 PM
Nov 2025

to do specific things in specific ways. Whoever programmed them knows exactly how they work and what they do.

stopdiggin

(15,462 posts)
22. and testing. and running trials and diagnosis before and after ... - -(nt)-
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:39 PM
Nov 2025

if your election officials are not doing so (and I'd be willing to bet they do) - then you should perhaps be getting on them for not exercising 'standard best practices'.

Scrivener7

(59,513 posts)
16. Many in this thread seem to be saying this is not an issue. I think that is just a nutty take on it.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 02:59 PM
Nov 2025

hamsterjill

(17,576 posts)
34. Agreed.
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 08:38 AM
Nov 2025

I guess I’m just old. But any computer that can be programmed can also be hacked.

There are certainly safeguards. But there are always people smart enough and devious enough to manipulate technology. We just don’t always hear about it.

Just my opinion. I’m sure others will disagree here and tell me it can’t happen. Sure…

CTyankee

(68,197 posts)
23. Based on the list posted here CT does not have them.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:40 PM
Nov 2025

I had no idea anyway.

Glad that this is one less political worry I have right now...

Emile

(42,281 posts)
24. I never thought a guy who orchestrated an insurrection
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:42 PM
Nov 2025

could win every battleground state too.

bluestarone

(22,174 posts)
25. One thing i'm thinking about is,
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:52 PM
Nov 2025

We really depend on Democratic election watchers in every state that has dominion machines. I just read that in North Dakota they test every machine before every state or federal elections. That's great. So i'm wondering if ALL states follow this procedure? I do 100% trust North Dakota. How about some DU's chime in about the states that use Dominion machines, especially since republicans now own those machines. Do you feel comfortable with your state and those machines?

questionseverything

(11,836 posts)
33. Computers can be programmed to do one thing during testing and another during actual use
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 03:21 AM
Nov 2025

That’s exactly what the volkswagon mileage scandal was about

yellow dahlia

(5,866 posts)
28. I think priority #1 is to figure out how to make sure elections are secure - free and fair.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 08:36 PM
Nov 2025

I wondered aloud today if the elections next week would be conducted without altering the results. "They" don't usually fuck with the off year elections. It is more risky to pull that kind of thing off during off year and special elections.

There is already interference in the form of intimidation and other shenanigans.

But I believe your question was directed at the issue of being able to trust voting machines - now and in the future. ES&S machines have been identified as a problem for years. Here is some of the reporting regarding the integrity of ES&S machines.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/election-hardware-vendor-threatens-researchers-for-exposing-valid-security-flaws/

I am concerned that Dominion has been sold to a former Republican election official.

I, like many on this forum, question the results of elections going back to at least 2000. How many of the questionable results can be attributed to voting machines may be a whole discussion of its own.

So, I affirm your concern. "We" need to do whatever we can to ensure secure and fair elections. And we need to insist on recounts when necessary.

JustAnotherGen

(38,050 posts)
32. The rules don't apply anymore
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 08:50 PM
Nov 2025

The machines in my county in NJ allow you to read the ballot and proof it.

I take a picture. I don't care about 'illegal'.

We have a 34 times convicted felon and adjudicated rapist in the WH. Mass human rights violations, kidnappings, extrajudicial murders on the sea . . .

That statis quo bullshit of "you're breaking some obscure law" is just that - bullshit. We are ALL doing that in our Borough.

I guess DonOld is just going to come arrest us all. Just arrest the majority of the Borough.

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