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In It to Win It

(12,648 posts)
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 03:39 PM Nov 2025

Catherine Rampell: The USDA sent an email to grocery stores telling them they are prohibited from offering special

The USDA sent an email to grocery stores telling them they are prohibited from offering special discounts to customers affected by the SNAP funding lapse.
I'm aware of at least 2 stores that had offered struggling customers a discount, then withdrew it after receiving this email

Catherine Rampell (@crampell.bsky.social) 2025-11-02T19:01:03.424Z

Understandable why grocery stores might be scared off. A store caught violating the prohibition could be denied ability to accept SNAP benefits in the future. In low-inc areas where SNAP shutdown will have biggest impact, getting thrown off SNAP could mean a store is no longer financially viable.

Catherine Rampell (@crampell.bsky.social) 2025-11-02T19:01:03.425Z

Meanwhile USDA Sec Rollins is trying to change the subject —the subject being Trump's decision to withhold food aid from 40M people—by claiming the admin is focused on rooting out SNAP fraud.
To be fair, no one can fraudulently receive benefits if no one receives benefits, period

Catherine Rampell (@crampell.bsky.social) 2025-11-02T19:20:01.488Z

A reverse Blackstone's ratio

Catherine Rampell (@crampell.bsky.social) 2025-11-02T19:29:28.836Z
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Catherine Rampell: The USDA sent an email to grocery stores telling them they are prohibited from offering special (Original Post) In It to Win It Nov 2025 OP
Small govt republicans. Klarkashton Nov 2025 #1
Who believe in the sanctity of the free market. TheRickles Nov 2025 #19
Rollins has not shown evidence of "massive fraud" and the responding states are mostly red, where we'd expect fraud. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #2
If Rethugs want to root out corruption and fraud Diamond_Dog Nov 2025 #3
;-{) Goonch Nov 2025 #4
They can offer dicounts to whoever they want. Fuck that e-mail. marble falls Nov 2025 #5
Shouldn't apply WmChris Nov 2025 #27
There is so much BS in Brookes statement. sheshe2 Nov 2025 #6
So much for free enterprise. Do we get dictator-run grocery stores next? Vinca Nov 2025 #7
We've all seen pictures of the soviet grocery store shelves. erronis Nov 2025 #10
Sorta like here in Trump 1.O + Covid Attilatheblond Nov 2025 #25
Ever since he was sworn in again, I've been trying to keep myself from hoarding toilet paper. Vinca Nov 2025 #34
So much bullshit from this mal-admiistration.. spanone Nov 2025 #8
42 million people... EarthAbides Nov 2025 #9
Highly likely. It would probably be easier to steal everything out of the Treasury then. littlemissmartypants Nov 2025 #13
I think that it is $350 per month Mblaze Nov 2025 #22
And since protests have all been peaceful, he wants people hungry enough to start food riots Attilatheblond Nov 2025 #24
From USDA website: The average SNAP household received a monthly benefit of $332. That's $177 per person based on the Wiz Imp Nov 2025 #28
An "equal treatment waiver"? Harker Nov 2025 #11
Blackstone's ratio littlemissmartypants Nov 2025 #12
The right always says "illegal aliens" in the same sentence as "Liberals" KS Toronado Nov 2025 #14
PURE EVIL LymphocyteLover Nov 2025 #15
The cruelty is the point. End of story. They want to make people suffer. Botany Nov 2025 #16
Oh, Eff Off! electric_blue68 Nov 2025 #17
Rollins should know about waste, fraud and abuse since it's the governing philosophy Deminpenn Nov 2025 #18
The Trump administration Mblaze Nov 2025 #20
These people are mean as snakes. Joinfortmill Nov 2025 #21
25 cents out of every SNAP dollar ends up in the pockets of our farmers. Mblaze Nov 2025 #23
Shouldn't apply WmChris Nov 2025 #26
Republicans vote for "Small government". GoodRaisin Nov 2025 #29
If people rely on SNAP but need to pay cash because the fascists won't release Marthe48 Nov 2025 #30
Like many on DU have said before: This administration wants poor, elderly, and allegorical oracle Nov 2025 #31
How the hell are the gonna monitor that? Strange. Joinfortmill Nov 2025 #32
Wasn't a woman recently arrested for buying ingredients to make cookies ... IcyPeas Nov 2025 #33
Looks like Mar A Lago Face: Phase One has started with this "person" flvegan Nov 2025 #35
Another chapter in the choie Nov 2025 #36
That cannot be legal. returnee Nov 2025 #37
This need to see the inside of a few courtrooms. Prairie_Seagull Nov 2025 #38

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
2. Rollins has not shown evidence of "massive fraud" and the responding states are mostly red, where we'd expect fraud. .nt
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 03:49 PM
Nov 2025

Diamond_Dog

(40,569 posts)
3. If Rethugs want to root out corruption and fraud
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 03:51 PM
Nov 2025

They should start with the guy in the White House.

erronis

(23,869 posts)
10. We've all seen pictures of the soviet grocery store shelves.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 04:45 PM
Nov 2025

Empty.

And then the shots of the high-end stores for the "connected".

Vinca

(53,986 posts)
34. Ever since he was sworn in again, I've been trying to keep myself from hoarding toilet paper.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 09:30 PM
Nov 2025

I'm not being funny - totally serious. If anyone can empty supermarket shelves, it's Trump.

EarthAbides

(450 posts)
9. 42 million people...
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 04:44 PM
Nov 2025

are on Food Stamps. Let's say the average person/family gets $100/month... (It's probably more)

That's a half of a billion dollars. That's a whole lot of money to wipe out of the economy. Leading me to conclude that the fascist pig, Krasnov, wants the economy to collapse.

Attilatheblond

(8,876 posts)
24. And since protests have all been peaceful, he wants people hungry enough to start food riots
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:43 PM
Nov 2025

so he can give the order to fire at will and mow down people just to make himself feel powerful, for a minute or two.

Wiz Imp

(9,991 posts)
28. From USDA website: The average SNAP household received a monthly benefit of $332. That's $177 per person based on the
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 07:04 PM
Nov 2025

average SNAP household size of 1.9 people.

Households with children received a larger average monthly benefit of $574 due to the larger average household size of 3.3 people. The average benefit per person for these households was $174.

Most SNAP households lived in poverty. Seventy-three percent had a gross monthly income at or below 100% of the poverty level.

Most SNAP benefits go to the poorest households. Eighty-six percent of all SNAP benefits go to households with gross monthly income at or below the poverty level and 51% of benefits go to those with gross monthly income at or below 50% of the poverty level. In contrast, 27% of households with a gross monthly income above the poverty level received 14% of all benefits.

When added to households’ gross incomes, SNAP benefits raised the incomes of 17% of SNAP households above the poverty level. Pandemic-related supplemental benefits, known as emergency allotments, raised the incomes of an additional 13% of households above the poverty level. When including both SNAP benefits and emergency allotments, the percentage of SNAP households living above the poverty level increased from 27% to 57%.

About 39% of SNAP participants were children, 20% were elderly, and 10% were nonelderly individuals with a disability.

Social Security was the most common source of income among SNAP households. Thirty-three percent of SNAP households received Social Security benefits (an average of $1,096 monthly).

Earnings from work and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) were the next most common sources of income. Twenty-eight percent of households had earnings (an average of $1,548 monthly) and 23% of households received SSI benefits (an average of $723 monthly).

General Assistance (GA) and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) benefits were less common sources of income. About 4% of SNAP households received GA (an average of $380 monthly) and 3% received TANF benefits (an average of $573 monthly).

https://www.fns.usda.gov/research/snap/characteristics-fy23

littlemissmartypants

(33,578 posts)
12. Blackstone's ratio
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 05:10 PM
Nov 2025

It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.

She's* saying reverse that concept.

*Catherine Rampell

Botany

(77,315 posts)
16. The cruelty is the point. End of story. They want to make people suffer.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 05:40 PM
Nov 2025

BTW a private business can sell its goods or hire out its services for any price they want
to set it at.

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
18. Rollins should know about waste, fraud and abuse since it's the governing philosophy
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 05:48 PM
Nov 2025

of the Trump administration in which she serves.

Mblaze

(1,031 posts)
20. The Trump administration
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:26 PM
Nov 2025

works hard to enforce the not-free market. Their opinion that "the fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy" defines their demand.

Mblaze

(1,031 posts)
23. 25 cents out of every SNAP dollar ends up in the pockets of our farmers.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 06:42 PM
Nov 2025

First Trump took away the $2 billion farmers got from sales to USAID and now they want to take the $25 billion that farmers get from SNAP purchases. Trump deported their farm and ranch workers. Argentina selling soybeans to China hurts American farmers and Trump importing Argentine beef is going to hurt American ranchers. Maybe farmers and ranchers will eventually get "woke" and vote Republicans out.

Marthe48

(23,174 posts)
30. If people rely on SNAP but need to pay cash because the fascists won't release
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 07:11 PM
Nov 2025

the government or the funds, then the stores can give them specials. We're still a free-market economy.
Are the fascists going to arrest me if I donate food or cash to a pantry? Are they going to storm the pantries and drag the volunteers to jail?



allegorical oracle

(6,479 posts)
31. Like many on DU have said before: This administration wants poor, elderly, and
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 07:40 PM
Nov 2025

disabled people to just go away -- emigrate or die. The good Christians don't believe needy people should eat if they don't have a job or work in some fashion. Hope they rot in Hades.

IcyPeas

(25,473 posts)
33. Wasn't a woman recently arrested for buying ingredients to make cookies ...
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 08:22 PM
Nov 2025

with food stamps and then selling the cookies to earn a little cash?

That's considered FRAUD???

flvegan

(66,278 posts)
35. Looks like Mar A Lago Face: Phase One has started with this "person"
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 09:57 PM
Nov 2025

Her record is against animal welfare in any form. Tells me all I need to know about her.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,688 posts)
38. This need to see the inside of a few courtrooms.
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 08:58 AM
Nov 2025

First however there needs to be standing. Some store needs to be affected by showing humanistic courage. When affected, a stay would be clearly on the table while being adjudicated.

Longer term benefit to business for having done it.

IMO.

Easy for me to say.

Avoided law school.

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