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perdita9

(1,339 posts)
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 05:15 PM Nov 2025

Is the "pro-life" community really pro-life?

My letter to the editor ran in today's issue of The Morning Call: Where are "pro-life" voices on deadly administration?

The following actions all have two things in common. Can you guess what they are?

The Trump Administration cut 83% of U. S. Agency for International programs which distribute medicine and food to vulnerable communities. By 2030, the cuts are expected to result in 14 million deaths.

Between Sept. 2nd and Oct. 26th, the Trump Administration has killed at least 43 people in strikes on Venezuelan boats in international waters. No evidence of illegal narcotic trafficking has been presented as justification for these attacks and no due process has been extended to the sailors.

Director of Health & Human Services, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., has fired 20,000 employees and cut billions of dollars from services to inspect restaurants and monitor wastewater and from programs to prevent chronic diseases such as diabetes and cancer and infectious diseases like tuberculosis and HIV.
So, what do these three actions have in common?

First, the “pro-life” community has not risen up en masse to protest any of them and second, each action received significantly less coverage from some media outlets than that time President Obama wore a tan suit to a press conference.


https://www.mcall.com/2025/11/02/letters-how-east-penn-could-realign-its-schools-without-spending-a-fortune/

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Is the "pro-life" community really pro-life? (Original Post) perdita9 Nov 2025 OP
Very good letter. Keep going. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #1
anti abortion does not equal pro life. Far from it. WarGamer Nov 2025 #2
Ayup. buzzycrumbhunger Nov 2025 #4
Not at all canetoad Nov 2025 #3
Excellent letter. Kick. Diamond_Dog Nov 2025 #5
Pro birth.... Not remotely pro life. yourout Nov 2025 #6
"righteous killings" are fine by them WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2025 #7
It's just a scam they use to squeeze money from duped evangelicals come election time. IcyPeas Nov 2025 #8
Never has been Mad_Machine76 Nov 2025 #9
No. They are pro pregnancy and anti-women hypocrites Ping Tung Nov 2025 #10
They are pro zygote. SamKnause Nov 2025 #11
They are not pro-life SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #12
Its always been misogyny disguised as a cause Johonny Nov 2025 #13
I would like to add another conclusion I have come to. CTyankee Nov 2025 #14
No, and that term should NEVER be used for anti-life conservatives. Never. themaguffin Nov 2025 #15
Go through their anti-life positions and then ask them if they are familiar with the Sermon on the Mount. CTyankee Nov 2025 #16
NO csusan Nov 2025 #17
How are the people they hate going to die if they haven't lived first? hunter Nov 2025 #18

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,744 posts)
4. Ayup.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 05:39 PM
Nov 2025

They’re PRO BIRTH, not pro life. They don’t give a fuck what happens once a child is born.

The other side of the issue is that they’re also anti woman because they’re disgusting control freaks who are insecure in their masculinity.

canetoad

(20,417 posts)
3. Not at all
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 05:27 PM
Nov 2025

They are pro-subjugate women and if that means a few extra children, so be it. If the kids survive the efforts of the H&HS sec, that is.

IcyPeas

(25,161 posts)
8. It's just a scam they use to squeeze money from duped evangelicals come election time.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 07:05 PM
Nov 2025

They don't care about abortion... they just want your donation.

They obviously don't care about school shootings.

Mad_Machine76

(24,939 posts)
9. Never has been
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 07:25 PM
Nov 2025

Their movement has always been full of contradictions: Anti-Abortion but Pro-Death Penalty, Anti-Abortion but does not support increased access to contraception, increased social supports such as childcare subsidies, etc. just to name a couple.

SamKnause

(14,826 posts)
11. They are pro zygote.
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 03:05 AM
Nov 2025

They are pro embryo.

They are pro fetus.

They are pro death penalty.


They hate the thought of women having sex unless a child is the result.

They are anti children and children's programs.

They are anti women having rights or medical choices.


They are the party of death and destruction and they use their religious books to justify their hate.

CTyankee

(67,920 posts)
14. I would like to add another conclusion I have come to.
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 06:50 AM
Nov 2025

Many are part of what I call the "religiously insane." My "diagnosis" (I'm not a psychiatrist) is that these people view this life as a means to get to heaven. That is their goal. I think they live miserable lives cuz they eventually learn that they ain't gonna make it to heaven.

There is no rational argument you can use with them. They smile serenely at your attempts. They are in their own little world and that is that.

I don't waste any more time on them. If I have business to do with them I do it and TYVM.

CTyankee

(67,920 posts)
16. Go through their anti-life positions and then ask them if they are familiar with the Sermon on the Mount.
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 09:58 AM
Nov 2025

Who did Jesus call "blessed"?

Then, just leave it there. Watch them become defensive and try to frame who Jesus said were blessed.

If they proclaim themselves as "Christian" they might try to "interpret" that Sermon to fit what they practice, just tell them it's what Jesus said according to the Bible and there don't appear to be any further explanations or footnotes, at least not in my copy of the King James Version (my father's Mason's bible when he was formally inducted as a Mason).

And, btw, did Jesus say anything about abortion?

csusan

(66 posts)
17. NO
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 10:29 AM
Nov 2025

When I escorted at an abortion clinic in my home town, we called them "forced birthers". A much more appropriate name than prolife. Nothing about them is prolife.

hunter

(40,487 posts)
18. How are the people they hate going to die if they haven't lived first?
Mon Nov 3, 2025, 11:53 AM
Nov 2025

It's god's will.

( They worship a cruel and capricious god. )

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