I think the Blue Surge may strengthen the Democratic Party's hand in shutdown negotiations. Your thoughts?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

[Frasier Balzov]

1. Only if public pledges can be extracted from Republicans

not to rescind compromises once they are made.

That needs to be a promise they expect to be held to.

[RainCaster]

5. Don't trust those bastards

Any further than you can throw them.

[BeneteauBum]

2. My thought exactly....

Peace ☮️

[msongs]

3. the prospect of unemployment is a powerful motivator...for some. nt

[RainCaster]

7. Losing all those government perks

That insider information they use to invest, the perfect healthcare plan they would never give us. All the gifting and grifting and bribing and all the lobbyists that worship at their feet...

[Alice B.]

27. This is why I'm always perplexed by the R's "but he'll primary me" excuse for inaction or just going along

Like your constituents won’t consider dumping you after you’ve dumped his *^%# on them???

[yorkster]

4. I agree, barring the unforeseen.

Got that feeling tonight watching the various discussions on MSNBC.

[Xolodno]

6. Depends...

...do they bury their head in the sand and just say "Trump wasn't on the ticket", or, do they face reality that he is toxic now. If they go against him, they will lose some of the base but may gain in other ways. In purple areas, I think a lot of Tylenol is being taken tonight.

[SSJVegeta]

8. Shutdown ends this week. GOP about turn on Trump.

Might even impeach the fucker if theyre feeling frisky.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. Good chance shutdown ends this week. tRump will get some pressure fr GOP, but I do not see impeachment. . . nt

[SSJVegeta]

13. ... only if theyre feeling especially moved for some reason

But there might be some feelings boiling over in the near future. Could be surprised. Probably won't be

[Bernardo de La Paz]

18. The possibility still remains that things might get so bad tRump is not only impeached but convicted in the Senate. . nt

[VMA131Marine]

29. Really!

What would be different compared to the last two times the Senate didn’t convict Trump other than there are now even more spineless GOP senators?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

34. Attempting to use real military to kill Americans during a general strike would be different, as one example. . . . nt

[gay texan]

9. Yes! N/T

[Silent Type]

10. Sure can't hurt. Now trump and some sour assed henchmen might tack on a few extra days in defiance

of inevitable.

When you lose MTG, the end is near. Might not be perfect, but we’ll get some ACA relief and SNAP payments will resume. Well, who the heck knows for sure nowadays?

[crimycarny]

11. I feel MTG was a bellwether

When MTG uncharacteristically started bashing Mike Johnson and her own party I thought to myself “It’s starting”, meaning the crumbling of the GOP stronghold. MTG cares nothing about actually governing, she only cares about keeping her perks, her cosplay, and attention. For her to pivot and go against her party tells me she sees the writing on the wall.

I’m hopeful others in GOP Congress do too. Of course any reversal will be solely self-serving, but at least Trump might be losing some of his grip.

[DET]

14. It Should

But Trump will double down on being an obstructionist ahole and demanding loyalty from Congress. It really depends on who the Republicans fear most - Trump or their constituents. I just hope that the Democrats don’t cave now that we’re on a roll.

[Celerity]

15. Agree

[iemanja]

16. I was thinking the same thing. Nt

[stopdiggin]

17. well - at very least it should serve to bolster resolve and shore up some backbone

(and understand - NOT meant a statement questing those qualities leading up ... )

In face - maybe some of the naysayers out there can squeak out a, "well done" - if only for the nonce?

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[DFW]

19. Strengthen, but not tip. The calendar is our greatest asset.

I think the tipping factor will be the calendar, not the election.

The last thing Republicans want is a tidal wave of stories about a couple million Americans being forced to choose between heated homes or food to feed their families on Thanksgiving, because they can’t afford both, due to their increased cost of health insurance. I don’t think Bobby Jr. is long for this administration, either, if he continues to obsess over vaccine prevention, and ignores death prevention.

[MichMan]

20. Either the Republicans cave to the Dems demands or we keep it shut down until the midterms

Their choice

[usedtobedemgurl]

21. No.

In a normal world it would, but they have been instructed not to talk to Dems and the orange guy knows if the files are released, he is in jeopardy. Johnson has already said they are out until the new year. There are probably other GOP names besides the orange one. They want this shut down. They need it. No, negotiations will not happen.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. The existential fear Republicons experience will crack their bravado. So far they are whistling past the graveyard.

tRump's Johnson says lots of nonsense things.

[GoCubsGo]

23. Unfortunately, I think it will just further entrench them.

They are in panic mode, and they're going to do everything they can to retain power, and to blame the Democrats for everything that goes badly--even though they're still in control of most of the power. We're already seeing it with Dear Leader.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

24. Their Dear Leader is delusional & wedded to idea of "never apologize, never back down". . . nt

[GoCubsGo]

33. And, so are they...

That's exactly why they will dig in.

[allegorical oracle]

25. Humans react badly to abuse. Repug leadership has overreached. Perhaps Repug voters

finally responded to the fact that djt will yank jobs from them as well as from Dems. Likewise, outrage over watching law-abiding immigrants and citizens being knocked around and carted away has erupted. If djt and his cruelty fail to change course, the midterms next year promise to be dismal for them.

For that reason, we may reach an end to the shutdown. We must be wary to assure that djt can't pull a double cross and claw back those appropriations.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

26. Cogent post. Thanks. . . nt

[marybourg]

28. Not to mention destruction of 1/ third

Of the White House.

[Arazi]

30. No way. He'll compel Thune to nuke the filibuster and they'll leave Dems in the dust

In fact, I presume they’re going to hit the gas pedal even harder.

They now see its now or never.

Traitor has ordered his cult to never negotiate/find common ground with Dems and they obey without question - from the SOTH Johnson and Senate Leader Thune, all the way to the minions living in rural poverty.

[sop]

31. It definitely will.

[Buddyzbuddy]

32. In answer to your question, I think you're correct.

Last night puts the wind at Democrats back and serves as a bellwether to Republicans. If we know anything about politicians, it's their first instinct is self preservation.

Up until recently, Republicans have been doing the Felon's bidding without much pushback, if any. Lately, there have been cracks. Now, it's not just polls but actual elections that show a preview of what's to come if things don't change and even then it might be too late.

After last night, I'm more concerned with what the Felon might do, we already know what he's capable of. But, the more desperate he becomes, the more irrational he becomes. Short term he needs to immediately change the narrative and remind Congress to back his play. He needs to make an example of his turncoats before he loses more. Second he needs to distract the public before they get more momentum and he begins to lose core support from voters and the financial backers. Billionaires are worried right now. The people have spoken and we're picking up our torches with a focus on change.
Longterm he absolutely needs to disrupt 2026 elections.

The voters weren't distracted by all of the bullsh*t. They stayed focused and hungry to vote. The adds against the trans population in Virginia and the anti Muslim crap didn't stop America's voter from making the right choice. That shows me a more focused and informed voter.

On a personal note, here in California, I dropped our ballots off in person as I always do on election day and I have never seen as many people coming to vote and with happiness and glee as I did yesterday. Not even for a Presedential election. There is a determined public with a purpose that has been awakened.

Big smile, big smile!