Sean Duffy does not inspire confidence.

[milestogo]

Decreasing the number of flights before the holidays is catastrophic. So is having too few air traffic controllers.

This country is getting shit on by Republicans who refuse to end the shutdown. Fuck them all.

[Attilatheblond]

1. Hoping my good neighbor makes it home in a week. He'd hate being stuck in WI all winter if air traffic controllers strike

For a lot of us in the west, we have to use the Denver hub for most airlines and that's hell on a good day. Having flights cut will really be a mess as holidays come up.

[Irish_Dem]

4. People will have to rent cars and drive home.

[Attilatheblond]

12. People in their late 70s and 80s generally don't have that option.

[Irish_Dem]

13. They have a number of choices.

1. Rent a car and drive home.
2. Have someone come get them.
3. Rent a hotel room and wait it out.

[Attilatheblond]

14. Waiting it out will by my neighbor's choice.

He'll have to buy a coat for sure.

[Irish_Dem]

15. Where is he stranded in WI?

[Attilatheblond]

17. Not stranded yet, but he has a while to go before he heads home to AZ. Flies Milwaukee to Denver then to AZ

Kinda figure Denver, busy hub that it is, may well see a lot of flight cutbacks as the Gang That Can't Govern Straight has to admit traffic controllers can't work forever without pay or sleep.

Lots of family, so he's covered for housing, but I know he wants to get back to the Borderlands before winter storms start hitting up north.

[Irish_Dem]

18. Since he has family housing he will be fine on that score.

Well Milwaukee is pretty good at clearing roads, streets, runways, etc.
So it is not like having storms in other states.
They are prepared and used to snow.

But yes it is not going to be AZ in terms of weather.

It sounds like the airports will have some flights going out
and I would think that he can get on one of those at some point.

If push comes to shove maybe a family member will drive him home.
Someone might like a warm wear vacation to AZ.

[Attilatheblond]

19. LOL, he's second from youngest and he's pushing 80 None of them will be driving to AZ

Housing is no problem. Winter clothes.... 'nother story

He used to love to fly, but has been stuck in Denver before and really hates that airport. WI is fine, I know, great street clearing. Denver? Horrible place for a major hub.

[Irish_Dem]

20. No other family near by?

I am used to large families with lots of siblings, cousins, nieces, nephews, etc etc.
Someone would volunteer to get an elderly relative home.
Or a young person who would do it for gas and food money.
And some warm weather.

I would think someone has a spare jacket and boots if need be.

Oh Denver is awful and the mystery of the aviation industry.
Worst location for an airport in the US.

I was once in the Denver airport and the power went off ALL DAY.
We sat there in the airport, no food, water, electricity, anything for hours.

My daughter was young and hungry.
She started at the man sitting across from to us until he handed over his packet of cheese crackers.

[Attilatheblond]

21. Jobs and kids in school

[Irish_Dem]

22. One advantage to coming from a big family.

There is always someone who can do a family favor in a pinch.

He sits tight until a flight comes open.

[Attilatheblond]

23. LOL His IS a big family, but several have died and siblings' younger 'kids' are housebound with jobs/children

So, yeah, if air traffic slows down, he will be staying or taking an air tour of flights around the nation via airports that are functioning. I can just hear his tales of WI to St Louis, Dallas, and who knows where else. Hope he sends postcards!

[Irish_Dem]

24. Did you see THE TERMINAL with Tom Hanks?

A man through no fault of his own is forced to live in an American airport.
It is funny.

Don't tell your neighbor about it.

[Irish_Dem]

2. The goal is to make Americans and the world distrust the US government.

[LastDemocratInSC]

5. To make the government appear incompetent and impotent

so it can be swept out and replaced.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. Yes, and more: to get Americans to distrust all information

Per Hannah Arendt, the reason for so much fascist lying is not get people to believe the lies, but to believe nothing.

You see it on DU now, where some people are automatically cynical. They don't realize that they've bought into the fascist playbook, become willing stooges. They don't realize they are carrying the tyranny's water for them.

[Irish_Dem]

7. Today being cynical is not propaganda.

It is based on the ugly reality all around us.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. There is cynicism and there is default reflex cynicism.

Some level of cynicism is just wisdom, experience. Automatic cynicism, which is more present than before is something else entirely.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. Hannah Arendt, who self-deported from Nazi Germany

[Irish_Dem]

8. People living in Canada like yourself have no idea what it is like to live in the US right now.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. I do. I lived in the US for decades during Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Shrub Bush, and Obama. I know how things work and feel

I know what is different now from what went before. It is very different now than before. The level of reflex cynicism is much higher. That doesn't make it a respectable strategy nor an effective one.

[redwitch]

3. Flying to Dallas on the 13th for a wedding on the 15th.

I’m very nervous about the possibility flight being delayed or canceled.

[progressoid]

16. I have a family member who works for the TSA

He's been working for no pay all this time. Many of his co-workers don't have a financial cushion to deal with this. Needless to say, the mood is dark at work for him.