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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'incredible photo of Trump that's definitely worth at least 1,000 words after someone fainted on Oval Office.......
IT looks like the person who fainted got enough help--yet Trump just seems oblivious to the whole scene.
Aaron Rupar
@atrupar.com
incredible photo that's definitely worth at least 1,000 words from Andrew Harnik of Getty
incredible photo that's definitely worth at least 1,000 words from Andrew Harnik of Getty
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-11-06T18:10:20.779Z
Trumpâs lack of empathy is written all over his face.
— Cat Skoor ð± ððð·ð² (@bluecatherine.bsky.social) 2025-11-06T18:12:31.875Z
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)CrispyQ
(41,138 posts)Late for appearances, visits to Walter Reed, strange rectangular devices under his clothes, signs on the doors of the WH. Who knows? Maybe they'll try to go the "Dave" route instead of Bernie's?
Can they find a big enough asshole?
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)ShazzieB
(22,979 posts)I somehow missed that memo, lol. How interesting
I need to do some googling.

tblue37
(68,461 posts)Ilsa
(64,665 posts)I wonder if they have trouble finding a good vein in his left hand. Too bad we can't get a look at his ankles.
tblue37
(68,461 posts)KS Toronado
(23,979 posts)Reason the guy fainted, dumpie just informed him he was going to be the PATSY for destroying all of the
Epstein files without pay, orange man always literally needs a FALL guy.
leftstreet
(41,323 posts)Truly shocked he didn't collapse
PatSeg
(53,778 posts)had the nerve to pass out in the Oval Office and detracted from whatever he was doing or saying.
Meanwhile, he kind of looks like he's sundowning. Maybe he's not entirely aware of what is going on around him.
Delmette2.0
(4,506 posts)Who would want to see that? Not me.
Or
No one wants to see that.
Irish_Dem
(82,762 posts)He seems to have a visceral aversion to it.
Plus he is a narcissist who gets angry if someone else has the attention
or inconveniences him in any way.
PatSeg
(53,778 posts)when some guy fell (heart attack maybe?) and there was blood. He was upset because of the blood. Didn't give a damn about the poor guy on the floor. What a piece of work he is.
PatSeg
(53,778 posts)His main concern was his marble floor!
Irish_Dem
(82,762 posts)Someone having an emergency makes the narcissist furious,
no one is allowed to inconvenience them.
Yes the look on his face is interesting isn't it?
He has completely detached himself from reality.
PatSeg
(53,778 posts)We know he has health issues and maybe he's afraid some day it could be him. Actually, maybe he already has been in that situation.
Irish_Dem
(82,762 posts)We can see that he is in bad health.
And last month he disappeared for four days.
So it hit a button for him today.
PatSeg
(53,778 posts)Probably scared the crap out of him, but apparently not the hate and cruelty.
Irish_Dem
(82,762 posts)More than one comment along those lines.
I think he collapsed and it scared him.
And/or he was given bad health news.
llmart
(17,754 posts)llmart
(17,754 posts)Looks like the lights are on but nobody's home. (Old saying)
They are keeping his health/mental issues from us as if we're too stupid to see he's on his way out. Maybe our prayers will be answered.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(15,231 posts)Captain Zero
(8,961 posts)hamsterjill
(17,874 posts)Either that, or he's drugged.
3catwoman3
(29,924 posts)dalton99a
(95,785 posts)
3catwoman3
(29,924 posts)Would that it were him on the floor courtesy of a stroke or heart attack.
Lokee11
(418 posts)I am annoyed and disgusted that it is not him!!!!!
✊FDT!
hamsterjill
(17,874 posts)The photo looks like (to me) that there are no feet at the end of the pants leg. Maybe I'm just old...
bobalew
(493 posts)On the left. The staffer on the right's feet are obscured by the end table...
GreenWave
(12,874 posts)hamsterjill
(17,874 posts)Just kidding...
hamsterjill
(17,874 posts)n/t
catchnrelease
(2,172 posts)You can see the feet/shoes next to the guy's face, who is kneeling down and holding the legs up.
hamsterjill
(17,874 posts)Old eyes, and dark shoes!!!!
Tanuki
(16,549 posts)hamsterjill
(17,874 posts)Thanks. I was wondering if this was another of the (obviously) staged ear shot thingies!!!! LOL
Attilatheblond
(9,384 posts)He's thinking: 'Men are NOT supposed to have their feet up in the air in the Oval Office! That's women's work'
Historic NY
(40,167 posts)Lovie777
(24,030 posts)oh shit, why now, what about meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Lovie777
(24,030 posts)oh shit, what about meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
czarjak
(13,715 posts)Doesn't know better?
struggle4progress
(126,888 posts)RockRaven
(19,846 posts)You don't even need to add text. Just the picture is enough.
LuckyCharms
(23,244 posts)should hit the top of his belt buckle.
Someone can make hay with this photo showing his lack of empathy or concern.
I hate him.
PatSeg
(53,778 posts)I've never gotten used to his absurdly long ties, though in fairness, it does appear like the waist on his pants keeps getting higher every year.
Ms. Toad
(38,879 posts)Shorter ones look goofy to me.
PatSeg
(53,778 posts)They almost look like clown ties.
Yeah, short ties look really weird as well.
the nelm
(304 posts)cyndensco
(1,772 posts)Torchlight
(7,111 posts)That's our boy!
BeneteauBum
(879 posts)Just oblivious
.
Peace ☮️
Paladin
(32,354 posts)How to tell when someone is brain-dead.
sop
(19,601 posts)And why is his right hand swollen and twice the size of his left?
dweller
(28,778 posts)Stroke city here he comes
💀
✌🏻
3catwoman3
(29,924 posts)Definitely edematous.
Irish_Dem
(82,762 posts)The narcissist sees it as a major inconvenience.
The victim is taking time and attention away from the narcissist.
The narcissist is the only star of the show.
The rest of us are just props.
democrank
(12,697 posts)The fastest-acting people in the room were the women trying to get guests/press out of there.
czarjak
(13,715 posts)Of course?
Mordred
(238 posts)barbtries
(31,373 posts)AND his dementia.
riversedge
(81,842 posts)Link to tweet
Emhacko.hl
@emhacko
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45m
Someone just fainted during Trumps speech, and the live stream cut off right as they were discussing getting better deals on health care. Probably a heart attack.
Credits: @themaster_eth
Link to tweet
IbogaProject
(6,110 posts)riversedge
(81,842 posts)Love how RFK JR sees this and runs the other way. Way to go Mr. Secretary of Health and Human Services.
Link to tweet
Kingofalldems
(40,389 posts)Omnipresent
(7,543 posts)Everyone else is busy with the task at hand and hes just standing there.
LetMyPeopleVote
(183,000 posts)
sheshe2
(98,729 posts)Bristlecone
(11,216 posts)sheshe2
(98,729 posts)riversedge
(81,842 posts)Looks like Trump forget his apricot-orange make up??
That fucking face! ð¤¬
— Ralivan (@ralivan.bsky.social) 2025-11-06T18:15:31.172Z
calimary
(91,106 posts)Mariana
(15,631 posts)llmart
(17,754 posts)I mean, look at the vacant eyes. He's either drugged or demented or both.
cornball 24
(1,585 posts)littlemissmartypants
(34,889 posts)Characteristics of Psychopaths
1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior
central scrutinizer
(12,655 posts)Clearly, hes the real victim here. How dare that asshole upstage me!
onethatcares
(17,019 posts)open a franchise in the White House?
IbogaProject
(6,110 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(19,239 posts)Or are they just going for his wallet?
3catwoman3
(29,924 posts)It the person "just" fainted, it may very well have been from standing up too long and blood pooling in the lower extremities. Elevating the legs returns blood to the brain and heart. Standard first aid.
riversedge
(81,842 posts)someone who fainted. And we really do not know what the problem was for the collapsed man.
lastlib
(28,744 posts)DJT: "...and see if the wallet falls out!
If not, shake him some more!"
UpInArms
(55,507 posts)What useless lump of cells
mwmisses4289
(4,894 posts)This, after all, is the guy who tells the story of stepping over or around a guest at marlargo who was having a heart attack, and how disgusted he was with it.
IbogaProject
(6,110 posts)Though Dr Oz was involved.
Yes, the Novo Nordisk executive who collapsed at the White House is okay, according to White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, who said the gentleman fainted and is being attended to by the White House Medical Unit. He was identified as Novo Nordisk executive Gordon Findlay.
eShirl
(20,491 posts)hlthe2b
(114,902 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 6, 2025, 04:36 PM - Edit history (1)
to do what, I don't know, but even the most lay person should know how to loosen their tie/clothing, make sure they are breathing, check pulses, etc, and if needed get someone to immediately get the portable AED machine (ECG/defibrillator) while contacting the WH medical staff to come immediately. Was "Dr." Oz at least that responsive? I don't know, but at least he did attend.
leftstreet
(41,323 posts)progressoid
(53,421 posts)Seinan Sensei
(1,672 posts)RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(2,346 posts)Biophilic
(6,714 posts)That's our chief executive and commander in chief?
czarjak
(13,715 posts)When or if the nukes start flying, he'll be a disaster 4-US.
Guaranteed!
Kid Berwyn
(25,245 posts)Coldwater
(1,350 posts)flashman13
(2,598 posts)Look at the body language. He's not there at all.
llmart
(17,754 posts)It's the hallmark of narcissism.
Fil1957
(932 posts)Moostache
(11,311 posts)As happy as Trump is that was NOT him, I am equally as UNHAPPY it was NOT Trump collapsing.
Once again, my daily pleas to the universe seem to be misinterpreted - I said THE ORANGE PAINTED GUY for the cardiac event, not the guy behind him...
Aviation Pro
(15,838 posts)I had to check and make sure that this was genuine.
It is and that fucking chomo should just fucking die already.
EarthAbides
(474 posts)My husband is working on a meme for this photo that basically says the guy collapsed due to Trumps diaper.....
Grokenstein
(6,445 posts)"Sir, the cameras are on."
"Oh! ...This is the Democrats fault!!"
"Sir, please, try to show a little empathy."
"That's a funny word. Like 'groceries.' Who even eats groceries anymore? I can kill anyone I want to, did you know that? I passed that test like no one ever saw before! It was a tiger!" (does that stupid 'dance')
Ponietz
(4,494 posts)IzzaNuDay
(1,353 posts)he doesnt have the brain cells to process what happened!
Polly Hennessey
(9,004 posts)Slovenly, creepy, ill-fitting suit, really bad hair. This THING represents America. 😝😒🤮
Ocelot II
(131,517 posts)then he just turns away and stares in the opposite direction while everyone else is looking after the guy who fainted. Apathy, confusion, or just annoyance that he was no longer the center of attention?
Ms. Toad
(38,879 posts)3catwoman3
(29,924 posts)to respect the mans privacy, if this is addressed at all.
EarthFirst
(4,241 posts)and then suddenly hes bored; as though hes witnessed a far more riveting scenario unfold before.
MustLoveBeagles
(17,804 posts)This is who he is.
littlemissmartypants
(34,889 posts)2naSalit
(104,164 posts)A long time ago I was in college and one of my jobs was AV tech for the distance learning center. One evening I was arriving at work, I operated a booth with all the controls for a classroom studio. There was another booth to another classroom set next to mine and the doors were right next to each other and were usually open. As I was setting my things down and greeting to operator on duty I heard a loud crash in the booth next door.
I stepped over to look in and saw that my coworker was having a grand mal seizure and needed help. While my other coworker came in to help, I instructed him in how to help and stood up to address the professor of the class, a graduate level nursing class and the prof was the director of the program...
She had that same look on her face, a look of disgust and impatience. She was pissed that she was interrupted and was not concerned with the life threatening event my coworker was suffering. She never considered helping or inquiring as to his well being. I then ran out to the 'desk' and demanded and ambulance.
That event troubled me so much that I had to go have a talk with the dean so that someone who should know was aware of her callousness. He was pretty upset about it.
That is a total lack of humanity there.
Blue Owl
(59,780 posts)And thats exactly what he is.
MineralMan
(151,823 posts)Bumbles
(543 posts)with nothing to say or do because there's no-one putting words in his mouth or pulling his strings.
littlemissmartypants
(34,889 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,868 posts)It reminds me of a dirty side eye look he gave Hillary several years ago, when she was socializing happily and he was his miserable useless POS self.
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)Vinca
(54,446 posts)TheRickles
(3,551 posts)Check out posts #14 and #21 on this thread for the video. trump then goes back to his desk and ignores the proceedings.
vanlassie
(6,281 posts)He stood up- took a look over there, then turned away as seen above. He was a zombie.
Goonch
(5,723 posts)
Hope22
(4,930 posts)Hope this wasnt the meeting to hand out WH prescriptions! 🤣😁
get the red out
(14,075 posts)Probably not enough Febreeze in Washington to cover it.
DET
(2,635 posts)Hes on Trumps shit list forever now. Trump will probably bring charges against him for obstructing an official proceeding.
rurallib
(64,879 posts)Doodley
(12,102 posts)llmart
(17,754 posts)Because that truly represents who and what he is.
proud patriot
(102,587 posts)Sneederbunk
(17,668 posts)ananda
(35,636 posts)That's all he can think about.
His brain is toast.
The Press Secretary literally chased them out as he fell
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220779915
ananda
(35,636 posts)Walks by with his camera facing Trump, and Trump poses for him.
Not all of them were chased out.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)C_U_L8R
(49,589 posts)to step in front of this scene and say Donald J Trump, an idiot man-child who destroys everything he touches, is about to have an overdue reckoning with the Twilght Zone.
bagimin
(1,708 posts)This photo should be on the cover of Time and every fuckin newspaper in the country.
malaise
(298,608 posts)The Roux Comes First
(2,390 posts)doc03
(39,217 posts)Happy Hoosier
(9,685 posts)And make-up on his right hand again.
3catwoman3
(29,924 posts)B.See
(8,957 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(3,183 posts)but himself, that greedy mofo should be in jail and maybe just maybe put that dead hair on his head back in Ivana's grave
iluvtennis
(21,543 posts)Buddyzbuddy
(2,952 posts)It's also why he hates himself and misdirects it outwardly. And yes, why he lacks empathy and has many twisted and cruel thoughts.
IMHO
58Sunliner
(6,432 posts)AnotherMother4Peace
(5,202 posts)Javaman
(66,008 posts)usonian
(26,796 posts)He is mugging up for the photographer. Obviously the most important person there, anywhere, now or ever.
I annotated it.

And I don't care one bit if that is the WH photographer. He's kissing ass instead of documenting.
Beacool
(30,529 posts)Some years ago, an elderly man fell and hit his head on the marble floors of Mar-a-Lago. Trump's concern was whether the blood would stain the marble. He's an abomination, a horrible human being.
Sane1
(228 posts)He has that Uh-Oh, That wasn't just a Fart look on his face!!
CozyMystery
(763 posts)were right at the scene when I fainted a few weeks ago. I woke up and they were standing over me, looking worried. I jumped up and reassured them I was fine. They couldn't do anything for me since I was the only human home. Normally they'd seek help.
Trump is a worthless piece of excrement compared to those 2 dogs.
soldierant
(9,372 posts)fainter got help for the person in the room who was least likely tikely to make things worse.
And I cannot believe I am saying this about Mehmet Oz. But the Mango Moron and RFK are so much worse than useless, they might have killed him. And the others in the toom were Big Pharma - useless at best.
If you ever have to faint, try to find a better rook to do it in.
synni
(789 posts)If it's occurring beyond his own fingers and toes, he might not even notice.
AZLD4Candidate
(7,035 posts)live love laugh
(16,530 posts)Rebl2
(17,966 posts)pissed that the guy passed out and ruined his photo op.
Layzeebeaver
(2,296 posts)CRAZY IVAN
cer7711
(620 posts)Barrack O'bama?
Bill Clinton?
Hell, even George Bush (senior or junior)?
Unthinkable--unless you are a dementia-damaged psychopath ruminating on your magnificent ballroom plans....