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Lawrence rocked last night - completely ignored a person in need (Original Post) malaise Nov 2025 OP
Thank you. niyad Nov 2025 #1
Meh - I'm afraid that's not really true muriel_volestrangler Nov 2025 #2
I agree to malaise Nov 2025 #4
I remember snowybirdie Nov 2025 #5
the picture speaks for itself Skittles Nov 2025 #6
Yep! He looks like he couldn't give any less "F"s wolfie001 Nov 2025 #7
if you see the whole video he does indeed look over Skittles Nov 2025 #39
Meh NJCher Nov 2025 #12
As I note below, every child in youth sports learns how to stay out of the way Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #15
and speaking of... NJCher Nov 2025 #33
Trump played high school baseball Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #35
"Noble"? No, I never said anything like that. Nor about "concern". muriel_volestrangler Nov 2025 #36
No. He was angry to be interrupted. PopArtMonkey Nov 2025 #13
Welcome to DU Popeye ! KS Toronado Nov 2025 #23
that's exactly right Skittles Nov 2025 #40
I had a similar reaction to the video.... Redleg Nov 2025 #16
and here is what Obama did --- azureblue Nov 2025 #17
Trump looks like he's in a catatonic state in the photo, as if he's in a trance. Lonestarblue Nov 2025 #20
I don't think Trump can be faulted for not personally trying to administer first aid, Ocelot II Nov 2025 #29
because denial is his modus operandi NJCher Nov 2025 #34
I agree, if anyone else had reacted like that. karynnj Nov 2025 #32
Granted, he intially made moves toward the guy misanthrope Nov 2025 #37
Looks like a robot SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #3
Retired medic Roy Rolling Nov 2025 #8
Recall what he said about NJCher Nov 2025 #10
Beneath his statusnails it malaise Nov 2025 #25
Everything Trump does is performative. He is putting on a show. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #9
Trump knows how to grift and con -- 70sEraVet Nov 2025 #11
Every child in youth sports learns how to stay out of the way while remaining concerned Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #14
Great video report PJMcK Nov 2025 #18
Who can run faster? Jughead Nov 2025 #19
This may end up as the defining still photo of his presidency, Torchlight Nov 2025 #21
I'm sure the guy that fainted came to him later with tears in his eyes... Ol Janx Spirit Nov 2025 #22
😂🤣 QueerDuck Nov 2025 #24
ROFL😂 malaise Nov 2025 #26
I am so stealing magastan! niyad Nov 2025 #30
At the 4:30 mark there's a New Yorker page image KS Toronado Nov 2025 #27
Not me malaise Nov 2025 #28
Does anybody think Joe Biden would've behaved this way? Walleye Nov 2025 #31
That phone is super close and a 911 call from that office would have gotten priority. flvegan Nov 2025 #38

muriel_volestrangler

(105,836 posts)
2. Meh - I'm afraid that's not really true
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 06:11 AM
Nov 2025

When the guy collapsed, Trump did look at him, and Oz (who is a doctor) went to help him, as one or two others did. Then the staff started clearing the room, and Trump turned from watching the collapsed guy and his helpers to (and this was odd, I admit) staring at the camera (he thought this would look "calm and in control", perhaps???). But he hadn't "completely ignored" him - he'd watched while the people who could help him did so.

But Trump's initial reaction was fine - let the people who know what they're doing get on with it, because Trump wouldn't have added anything. Sure, the photo serves as a metaphor for his behaviour as president. But the person in need there got the best reaction he could have hoped for.

snowybirdie

(6,607 posts)
5. I remember
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 07:03 AM
Nov 2025

Obama calling from the podium for help for a collapsed reporter and trying to calm others in the room. I remember Trump complaining from the podium when a man fainted, hit his head and bled in front of him about the messy blood. Trump acted like a zombie yesterday.

wolfie001

(7,363 posts)
7. Yep! He looks like he couldn't give any less "F"s
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 07:32 AM
Nov 2025

Funny how a big poster can extract a bit of empathy for that fat orange imbecile. Quite shocking really.

p.s.- a normal, empathetic person would've at least taken a step or two in the direction of the victim just to check if ANYTHING could be done. Right?

Skittles

(170,209 posts)
39. if you see the whole video he does indeed look over
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 07:33 PM
Nov 2025

and Dr. Oz was in immediate attendance to the stricken gent

But what strikes me is, Trump gets very detached when he is not the subject of attention.....he is jealous even when it's a guy needing medical attention - Trump is such an unreal fucking moron.

NJCher

(42,767 posts)
12. Meh
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 08:02 AM
Nov 2025

You’ve seen a decade of trump’s sociopathic behavior and you attribute his failure to demonstrate even a scintilla of concern as somehow noble?

Meh to your skills of discernment.

Prairie Gates

(7,557 posts)
15. As I note below, every child in youth sports learns how to stay out of the way
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 08:20 AM
Nov 2025

of an injured player without completely turning off any hint of concern. Not Trump.

Prairie Gates

(7,557 posts)
35. Trump played high school baseball
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 01:12 PM
Nov 2025

He claims to have been so good that he could have been recruited by major league teams had he not decided, instead, to go to Fordham. Needless to say, this was merely a few years before his debilitating foot disability prevented him from being drafted into the military.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,836 posts)
36. "Noble"? No, I never said anything like that. Nor about "concern".
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 02:27 PM
Nov 2025

I said turning to the camera was odd. I also said it was a good idea for him to not interfere, because he doesn't know anything about first aid, so it's good he stayed out of it.

Redleg

(6,866 posts)
16. I had a similar reaction to the video....
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 08:27 AM
Nov 2025

but I think Trump turned to look to see what was happening, as most people would, and then turned back to face the cameras without a look of concern on his face except possibly annoyance that his meeting (and nap) was interrupted by someone collapsing.

Lonestarblue

(13,344 posts)
20. Trump looks like he's in a catatonic state in the photo, as if he's in a trance.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 08:57 AM
Nov 2025

He’s having more incidences of not knowing what to do, as in Tokyo where he had to be guided around a room.

Ocelot II

(129,736 posts)
29. I don't think Trump can be faulted for not personally trying to administer first aid,
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 09:26 AM
Nov 2025

since there were already a number of people looking after the guy. What was disturbing about his reaction is that he said nothing, almost immediately turned away and just stood there, apparently trying to ignore the whole situation. Most people would have at least kept watching, asked if the man was OK, did he need anything, how can I help, etc. He didn't. He just stood like a department store mannequin, looking away and not reacting at all while others administered aid. That was really weird.

NJCher

(42,767 posts)
34. because denial is his modus operandi
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 12:16 PM
Nov 2025

It really is the only way he can function in life.

He is not the best, the most winningest, the richest, the whatever. But his superb denial defense mechanism saves him from having to admit it.

karynnj

(60,831 posts)
32. I agree, if anyone else had reacted like that.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 09:36 AM
Nov 2025

As he was the man in charge, I would have expected he take some control. In particular, he personally should have asked the media stop filming as the man got the medical help needed.

However, it more highlighted his inability to express or show empathy. This is why the Obama tape is such a contrast.

misanthrope

(9,423 posts)
37. Granted, he intially made moves toward the guy
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 02:39 PM
Nov 2025

But then quickly lost interest. Put yourself in that position. Your curiosity alone, compounded by compassion, would still keep your eyes trained on what was going on with the ailing person.

It was Trump's eventual disinterest that made the photo, not being out of the way.

Roy Rolling

(7,524 posts)
8. Retired medic
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 07:36 AM
Nov 2025

It’s a given—Trump acts like he has a brain disease.

Also, make room for qualified emergency personnel (ER docs are, non-practicing physicians are not) I doubt any of those people are certified or trained in emergency medicine.

With those parameters in mind, it doesn’t take trained emergency responders to help a person on the verge of fainting. Many people did, but the POTUS froze like a deer in headlights.

It wasn’t a calculated move, it was a cowardly move because he’s an imbecile and too much of a sociopath to recognize a person in need and the common response of volunteering to help in any way possible. He refused to help, it was beneath his status.

FROM: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220781219


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NJCher

(42,767 posts)
10. Recall what he said about
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 07:57 AM
Nov 2025
the common response of volunteering to help in any way possible. He refused to help, it was beneath his status.


Not wanting to see disabled vets?
——————-

Can we add “instinctive” after “common”?

There is something very wrong with this person and this particular situation showed it. To attribute “wisdom” to his behavior is beyond the pale. We have had 10 years of his destructive influence and we know full well what he is about.

Irish_Dem

(80,419 posts)
9. Everything Trump does is performative. He is putting on a show.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 07:41 AM
Nov 2025

He has no idea how to act in real life and in real relationships.

At least he was not laughing at tragedy.
He went on tilt. He had no idea what to do.

70sEraVet

(5,356 posts)
11. Trump knows how to grift and con --
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 08:00 AM
Nov 2025

Those are his limits. If it doesn't have anything to do with making him richer, or making him APPEAR to be rich and powerful, it is completely beyond his abilities to process.

PJMcK

(24,901 posts)
18. Great video report
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 08:45 AM
Nov 2025

Every day brings another Trump outrage. I will never understand how anyone could support this stupid, racist, misogynistic, petty moron.

Thanks for the post!

Torchlight

(6,514 posts)
21. This may end up as the defining still photo of his presidency,
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 09:02 AM
Nov 2025

I doubt anyone could pretend to argue with any measure that it doesn't capture the content of his character accurately.

Ol Janx Spirit

(827 posts)
22. I'm sure the guy that fainted came to him later with tears in his eyes...
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 09:10 AM
Nov 2025

...and said. "sir, your Oval Office renovations and your very presence in the room saved my life. Standing there I caught a whiff of your natural redolence and it took my breath away, but as my head plunged toward the floor it was like a golden crypto-angel put her hand out and cushioned my fall--all because of you. If Biden was still in office I would be dead now."

Because that's how you do things in MAGAstan.

KS Toronado

(23,392 posts)
27. At the 4:30 mark there's a New Yorker page image
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 09:24 AM
Nov 2025

that I feel would be good to share on social media sites, anybody happen to have that one?

Walleye

(44,062 posts)
31. Does anybody think Joe Biden would've behaved this way?
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 09:29 AM
Nov 2025

I was covering a local parade and when Biden was vice president. I fell and cut my chin and started bleeding and needed stitches. He sent his personal physician over to look at me and later they both called me in the emergency room to make sure I was OK, I sent him a picture from the event and he wrote a nice note on it and sent it back. Trump doesn’t care Joe Biden does.

flvegan

(65,976 posts)
38. That phone is super close and a 911 call from that office would have gotten priority.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 02:43 PM
Nov 2025

Which is exactly what he didn't do.

And that's IF there isn't an ambulance on 24/7 standby at the Whitest House that could otherwise be summoned.

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