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PCIntern

(27,908 posts)
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 07:33 PM Nov 8

You know, this is a distinct possibility given the evidence:

Severe, Intolerable Fatigue Associated with Hyperresponse to Clopidogrel

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David I. Bass Christopher C. Young Min S. Park Michael J. Cruz Kate T. Carroll Kevin N. Vanent Chungeun Lee Rajeev D. Sen Dominick J. Angiolillo 5, Marco Cattaneo 6, Louis J. Kim 1 7 8, Michael R. Levitt

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.wneu.2021.09.075

Objective
Clopidogrel is a commonly used antiplatelet agent for the prevention of thromboembolic complications following neuroendovascular procedures, but anecdotal data have raised concern for the possibility that clopidogrel may induce severe, intolerable fatigue. The purpose of this study is to systematically investigate this phenomenon.

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Conclusions
A syndrome of severe fatigue and other constitutional symptoms is a rare but clinically significant side effect of hyperresponse to clopidogrel in patients undergoing neuroendovasular intervention.


Kud bee……or similar meds prescribed for similar purposes. Several different types of hypertensive drugs, cause exhaustion, including beta blockers.

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You know, this is a distinct possibility given the evidence: (Original Post) PCIntern Nov 8 OP
Perhaps you're thinking that this drug might be causing him to fall asleep in meetings? CaliforniaPeggy Nov 8 #1
Would this make flying more dangerous for him? IcyPeas Nov 8 #2
Could this slow him down dweller Nov 8 #3
That's a possibility and a good fit bucolic_frolic Nov 8 #4
It appears they are doing what they can to keep him cachukis Nov 8 #5
Neuroendovascular procedures? Minimally invasive brain surgery? tinrobot Nov 8 #6
Not necessarily surgery. Been taking that drug since my TIA stroke... Wounded Bear Nov 8 #7
Happy to hear that about you personally... PCIntern Nov 8 #8
Indeed. Can't imagine all he's probably on to keep him upright...nt Wounded Bear Nov 8 #9
I can speak to this personally. Prairie_Seagull Nov 9 #22
I've been on that since my AAA repair roughly 18 months ago. Gore1FL Nov 8 #10
He's old, tired, and his brain is failing him babylonsister Nov 8 #11
He was falling asleep in the courtroom ages ago, though buzzycrumbhunger Nov 8 #12
It's common enough that they did study on it PCIntern Nov 8 #16
Correlation doesn't equal causation sakabatou Nov 8 #13
Guess what... PCIntern Nov 8 #15
Can't be this. llmart Nov 8 #14
Sleepness is also caused by staying up all night posting trolling bullshit. Swede Nov 8 #17
I wonder if canetoad Nov 8 #18
I think he's got so many comorbidities... buzzycrumbhunger Nov 9 #19
That looks real bad! You'd think that idiot doc of his could do something about it. CTyankee Nov 9 #20
Biff Spraytannen is mellowing like a... Hugin Nov 9 #21

CaliforniaPeggy

(155,941 posts)
1. Perhaps you're thinking that this drug might be causing him to fall asleep in meetings?
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 07:39 PM
Nov 8

Could be.



bucolic_frolic

(53,603 posts)
4. That's a possibility and a good fit
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 07:48 PM
Nov 8

Lots of treatments cause fatigue. That "washed-out" feeling: IV chelation. Droopy confusion: Anti-psychotics.

tinrobot

(11,923 posts)
6. Neuroendovascular procedures? Minimally invasive brain surgery?
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 07:53 PM
Nov 8

I'm surprised they found a brain.

Seriously, if he had brain surgery, that needs to be disclosed.

Wounded Bear

(63,670 posts)
7. Not necessarily surgery. Been taking that drug since my TIA stroke...
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 07:56 PM
Nov 8

Haven't had that symptom so far and it's been several months.

PCIntern

(27,908 posts)
8. Happy to hear that about you personally...
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 07:59 PM
Nov 8

It could be in combination with other medication he’s taking including beta blockers and who knows what else?

Prairie_Seagull

(4,580 posts)
22. I can speak to this personally.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:33 AM
Nov 9

I have contacted all of my docs about this and the response I get is, the fatigue is probably associated with something else. Like type 2 diabetes.

Without it however I am prone to significant TIA's. To the point where I really no longer go to the hospital. What would be another medication option?

I will be pointing to this study with a doc in near future.

Gore1FL

(22,795 posts)
10. I've been on that since my AAA repair roughly 18 months ago.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 08:12 PM
Nov 8

I'm always tired, but assume it has to do with my poor sleep habits and outcomes.

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,552 posts)
12. He was falling asleep in the courtroom ages ago, though
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 09:09 PM
Nov 8

I suppose clopidogrel could be a factor, though in my time as a pharmacy tech, we dispense tons of this and I’ve never seen a patient with that complaint. I think it’s likely multifactorial, beginning with the fact he’s OLD, has fecal and urinary incompetence, the frontotemporal dementia, probable escalating tertiary syphilis, and has been popping Adderall and other crap as he pleases, eats McDonald’s garbage in huge quantities, yada, yada, yada.

I think it’s not unlikely that a new medication regime could indeed be one thing too many on top of all his other problems. If so, I vote that they double the dose and hurry him over the precipice.

PCIntern

(27,908 posts)
16. It's common enough that they did study on it
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 09:50 PM
Nov 8

And furthermore, who knows what else he’s on at this could be interacting with? Anything is possible, considering that he has possibly not had the best advice or necessarily heeds any competent physician’s advice.

sakabatou

(45,629 posts)
13. Correlation doesn't equal causation
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 09:24 PM
Nov 8

While his napping could be chalked up to his health, we shouldn't come to a hasty conclusion.

PCIntern

(27,908 posts)
15. Guess what...
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 09:48 PM
Nov 8

I can do anything I please. I can come to any conclusion I want given they feed us no information and there’s obviously a big problem. I can think he had a stroke, I can think he is on too many medications for his own good, I can think that they’re being implanted in his food by the CIA.

Ain’t no hasty conclusions here. I’ve been watching this sociopath for 40 years. Anything I say is valid as anything anybody else says and try to prove me wrong.

llmart

(17,219 posts)
14. Can't be this.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 09:27 PM
Nov 8

He shows no "constitutional symptoms". He shits on our constitution every day.

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,552 posts)
19. I think he's got so many comorbidities...
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:14 AM
Nov 9

... that it might not be possible to blame one thing.

But hey, he's obviously getting worse so we all might have a happy Thanksgiving. Keep a good thought! 😉

CTyankee

(67,682 posts)
20. That looks real bad! You'd think that idiot doc of his could do something about it.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:20 AM
Nov 9

What does this swelling indicate?

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