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pfitz59

(12,701 posts)
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:11 PM Nov 2025

Repercussions on ending the shutdown

If the Dems do vote to reopen, and ACA goes away they will have strong ammo going into the midterms. People are hurting 'now' and perhaps its time to kick the blame to the GOP goons. There will be a reckoning.

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C_U_L8R

(49,382 posts)
2. Trump will continue to blame Democrats
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:17 PM
Nov 2025

And Republicans will be rewarded for playing terrorist politics. There better be a way out of this mess or everyone is fucked.

Lancero

(3,276 posts)
4. He's been blaming Democrats since the start of this, despite the Republican majority.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:26 PM
Nov 2025

We're about to validate every claim he made about it being "The Democrats!" keeping the government closed.

gab13by13

(32,314 posts)
3. Are you serious?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:21 PM
Nov 2025

Explain that to the 50,000 Americans who will die without the Obamacare subsidies, that the decision was political, sorry.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
5. No they will not. If the ACA goes away it is done
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:29 PM
Nov 2025

We get nothing and millions die. This is a bad deal and Democrats will be blamed. No one will trust us. Why should they.

Cirsium

(3,942 posts)
7. wait...
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:39 PM
Nov 2025

Supposedly we cave in order to save SNAP, because the children, but we are going to eliminate healthcare for the children because elections?

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
8. Little disappointed we got nothing from shutdown. Heck, at least 2 weeks ago we could have claimed victory
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:40 PM
Nov 2025

and put the blame on GOPers if they didn’t follow-up on a one or two year extension of subsidies. All 250 of our delegation should have stood on Capitol steps, declared victory, etc.

I’m assuming latest goes through.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
12. So we'll have headlines, "Dems in Disarray." Not sure it's good having Democrats disagree on this, at this point.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:55 PM
Nov 2025

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
9. We will be blamed for caving but
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:52 PM
Nov 2025

More importantly once the ACA IS GONE, we won’t get it back

TBF

(36,665 posts)
13. We have plenty of "ammo" -
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 09:07 PM
Nov 2025

Trump is backed in a corner from election losses, people are losing SNAP, air traffic controllers aren't being paid. Let him marinate - don't bail him out. My god.

I've never seen such crappy negotiation. Hold.the.line.

choie

(6,904 posts)
14. Yeah, you know what the reckoning is going to be?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 09:34 PM
Nov 2025

People will vote against the Democrats for capitulating.

Bluetus

(2,793 posts)
15. Cold comfort. Do you understand that in order to pass the ACA, we needed 60 Dems
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:50 PM
Nov 2025

or Dem allies like Lieberman. We only had 60 for a short period of a few months, and with bullshit like this, we have zero prospects of getting back to the 60 point for another generation at least.

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