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iemanja

(57,757 posts)
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 10:58 PM Nov 2025

Are these all the Democratic Senators who voted with the GOP?

How did they get this through without Schumer? I thought he was supposed to be in charge of the Democratic Senate caucus.


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Are these all the Democratic Senators who voted with the GOP? (Original Post) iemanja Nov 2025 OP
"I thought (Schumer) was supposed to be in charge of the Democratic Senate caucus." LudwigPastorius Nov 2025 #1
Remember when Schumer had 68 Senate Democrats? tritsofme Nov 2025 #3
Yeah, LBJ had that many Dems, and he STILL... LudwigPastorius Nov 2025 #4
All Democrats did not support the Bill Rights bill iemanja Nov 2025 #5
That was my point. LudwigPastorius Nov 2025 #6
You're giving him the benefit of the doubt iemanja Nov 2025 #7
Any evidence at all for your theory? LudwigPastorius Nov 2025 #8
I never claimed I had evidence iemanja Nov 2025 #9
So, prove he wasn't, eh? LudwigPastorius Nov 2025 #10
So you must have heard Schumer denounce iemanja Nov 2025 #11
Linkee LudwigPastorius Nov 2025 #12
It's late, so I won't watch the video now. iemanja Nov 2025 #13
Well, they are probably going to need their great government healthcare to get braces for their weak knees yaesu Nov 2025 #2

LudwigPastorius

(14,723 posts)
1. "I thought (Schumer) was supposed to be in charge of the Democratic Senate caucus."
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:09 PM
Nov 2025

You're confusing him with LBJ.


LudwigPastorius

(14,723 posts)
4. Yeah, LBJ had that many Dems, and he STILL...
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:21 PM
Nov 2025

had to give some "The Treatment" to get the 1960 Civil Rights Bill through.

My point was, the OP was being a bit unrealistic to think that Schumer could have controlled the 10 who sold us out.

LudwigPastorius

(14,723 posts)
6. That was my point.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:45 PM
Nov 2025

LBJ was a unique Democratic Senate leader, capable of manipulating the caucus despite opposing forces in the party.

Expecting Schumer to “herd cats” like that is overly optimistic. What leverage could he hold over Senators that are retiring, or lost causes like Fetterman?

iemanja

(57,757 posts)
9. I never claimed I had evidence
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:54 PM
Nov 2025

I asked how you knew he wasn’t behind it. Your response was to turn it on me, which doesn’t answer the question.

LudwigPastorius

(14,723 posts)
10. So, prove he wasn't, eh?
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:26 AM
Nov 2025

Setting aside just how it might be possible to prove a negative, I'll just say that I take the Democratic leader of the Senate for his word...and his NO vote for its face value.

iemanja

(57,757 posts)
11. So you must have heard Schumer denounce
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:29 AM
Nov 2025

the deal, given your certainty that he opposed it. Can you provide a link to that announcement?

iemanja

(57,757 posts)
13. It's late, so I won't watch the video now.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:04 AM
Nov 2025

But I thank you for providing it. I’ll have a look tomorrow.

yaesu

(9,326 posts)
2. Well, they are probably going to need their great government healthcare to get braces for their weak knees
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 11:09 PM
Nov 2025

or brain worm meds.

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