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Mme. Defarge

(8,874 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:48 AM Nov 10

Republicans will be blamed in '26

for the “affordability” catastrophe. Meanwhile, they’ve gone “scorched earth” and are willing to keep our government closed regardless of the damage and suffering it is causing. How can you negotiate with that?

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Republicans will be blamed in '26 (Original Post) Mme. Defarge Nov 10 OP
The round of checks with Trump's name on them Klarkashton Nov 10 #1
Rather republicans will be blamed in 2026 remains to be seen standingtall Nov 10 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #3
People are going to be miserable and angry next November. Sure. But people RockRaven Nov 10 #4
The democrats should not have caved. CentralMass Nov 10 #5
I was hoping they would not, but Mme. Defarge Nov 10 #6
They are consolidating control of the media (including social media) TheRealNorth Nov 10 #7
No, Democrats caused the shutdown. angrychair Nov 10 #8
So very well said! hamsterjill Nov 10 #9
Sadly, this is correct jcmaine72 Nov 10 #10
Thanks for a handful of centrists, Emile Nov 10 #11
Really naive post in my opinion hamsterjill Nov 10 #12

standingtall

(3,144 posts)
2. Rather republicans will be blamed in 2026 remains to be seen
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:00 AM
Nov 10

You negotiate with them by gaining leverage and that requires both a backbone and a stomach for it. Trump maybe been immune to the consequence, but other elected republicans and republican business leaders are not. If they weren't going to be willing to concede anything in this shutdown then we should've been willing to let republican voters feel the full wrath of Trump's policies and been willing to keep the Government shutdown until he is gone. The Government is open and Trump will cause even more damage and suffering now.

Response to Mme. Defarge (Original post)

RockRaven

(18,581 posts)
4. People are going to be miserable and angry next November. Sure. But people
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 01:12 AM
Nov 10

correctly identifying those who caused their misery and is blameworthy? Yeah, right.

Recent history is very much against that prediction.

TheRealNorth

(9,647 posts)
7. They are consolidating control of the media (including social media)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:13 AM
Nov 10

So I don't have your confidence that even if we ever figure out messaging, that the message will be able to get out to the normies.

angrychair

(11,624 posts)
8. No, Democrats caused the shutdown.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:39 AM
Nov 10

Democrats made people stuffer, lose their pay and get fired from their jobs because, in the end, all they did was give in and allow the CR to pass like they could have 40 days ago. They got nothing. Nothing.
A "promise for a vote" is not a thing. It's, very literally, meaningless.
A "promise" in the Senate means nothing in that House or in the WH

hamsterjill

(16,889 posts)
9. So very well said!
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:14 AM
Nov 10

The typical American voter is going to see this just as you state.

To cave at this point will only be perceived as weakness.

jcmaine72

(1,843 posts)
10. Sadly, this is correct
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:21 AM
Nov 10

That's why it was imperative not to cave or compromise once the shutdown began. As you wrote, it was all for naught. Democrats just handed Trump another victory that he will assuredly not let us or the American voter soon forget, especially in the weeks leading up to the 2026 elections .Worst of all, it has deepened divisions within our party (perhaps irrevocably) mere days after a series of election victories that should've unified us stronger than ever in the fight against Trump's reign of tyranny. In addition, our party has probably now lost all credibility with the people those like Chuck Schumer promised to protect with this shutdown. The message now is: "When the going gets tough, the Democrats will bail on us and cut a deal".

In the end, thanks to eight selfish and cowardly people, our entire party now looks weaker than ever. This is so infuriating!

Emile

(40,110 posts)
11. Thanks for a handful of centrists,
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:31 AM
Nov 10

history will blame the Democratic party for the Republican shutdown. Trump is laughing his ass off.

hamsterjill

(16,889 posts)
12. Really naive post in my opinion
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 07:29 AM
Nov 10

Voters are going to perceive the caving in of Democrats. Voters like strong candidates and strong responses. This made Dems look like wimps.

Democrats will be blamed and will most assuredly lose the momentum that was gained from last Tuesday’s elections.

This was a big mistake.

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