How would an effective Democratic Senate leader have kept the cavers in line/punish them?

[Bobstandard]

I believe there are ways to reward or punish Senators who break from the party on important issues. I’m wondering what those ways are and how could an effective leader use them. I’m sure Schumer won’t because he’s who he is. But what if he were a fighter?

As you ponder this, keep in mind that a bunch of the cavers are retiring or not running again. How could you entice or punish them?

[SARose]

1. I wouldn't punish anyone

I would, however, explain the reasoning for reopening the government right now.

[Bobstandard]

5. There should be consequences

Letting them off the hook encourages them and their ilk to cave next time. We need unity.

[edisdead]

19. what was the shutdown accomplishing at this point?

the ACA wasn’t going to be extended and fed workers weren’t getting paid.

Gov opens Fed workers get pain and ACA extensibg will end or be voted down.

Now the Democrats are no longer tied to that eventuality at all. The ball is 100% in repugs court.

[Happy Hoosier]

10. If there are no consequences...

... the message is that either leadership supports this deal, or is ineffective in implementing coherent policy.

Ya want people to blame the entire party? That's how people blame the entire party.

[Silent Type]

2. They've probably spent the last two weeks deciding which Senators would take the heat when inevitable came.

I don't think blaming those 8 gets us anywhere, but that won't stop us from eating them.

[Bobstandard]

7. Take it as a theoretical question. Try again. nt

[CentralMass]

18. Schumer is complicit in this. This was throwing in the towel.

[edisdead]

20. how is it throwing in the towel?

This is putting the ball in repubs court to do the thing that they were going to do no matter what.

Now they get to come to the table and vote it down or let them expire and there is mo blaming the democrats for shutting down the government.

Gov open or closed this was happening no matter what. Anyone who didn’t know that one year ago today wasn’t paying attention.

[CentralMass]

21. They gave up any leverage that they had.

[rampartd]

3. what would trump do? "art of the deal"

exactly what trump is doing to the supreme court right now.: remind them of who they owe and how much is expected or appeal to their greed and ambition, or show them the videotape of themselves in flagrante with farm animals. whatever he has, they will do what he wants.

[Jersey Devil]

4. You could start by stripping committee assignments, then threaten reduced campaign funding

The funding part would be very convincing in my opinion.

[Kaleva]

6. They are either retiring or not running until at least 2028

And there is no simple way for a Senate leader to remove a Senator from a committee.

[Bobstandard]

8. Reread the post and try again. It's a theoretical question.

[Kaleva]

9. The person I responded to didn't ask a question

He or she made a statement.

[stopdiggin]

23. Your post perhaps. The one responded to - Nope. -(nt)-

[Jersey Devil]

12. Then the committee assignments come into play

Think about the old western movies where Cavalry officers would be taken outside the fort and their uniform buttons would be cut off before they were released into the desert with hordes of wild Indians waiting for them. They wouldn't like that very much.

[Kaleva]

13. What is the procedure to remove someone from a committee?

[tritsofme]

15. There is no modern precedent for stripping a large group of members, nearly 20% of the caucus, of their committee

assignments.

These aren’t reasonable demands.

A Senate leader who tried to undertake such an action after this vote would likely be sacked himself.

[BannonsLiver]

11. I don't know but Mitch McConnell seemed to have no problems with all of that.

Maybe that’s a roadmap.

[leftstreet]

14. Same way he handled Manchin, Cinema, Fetterman

[usonian]

16. Beat them until they cry ...

for more.

[JCMach1]

17. They were doing exactly what Schumer told them

Let's be clear on that. The Senate leadership has to be purged ASAP for people who recognize the threat and how to deal with it.

[stopdiggin]

22. you're taking a rather authoritarian line - for your baseline assumption.

we need discipline! we need people to toe the line! no independent thinkers! color within the lines!

(and, yes - I'm caricaturing and being sarcastic in effort to make the point.)

[Jose Garcia]

24. You are assuming that a majority of Senate Democrats oppose this deal

Did you notice that this deal needed the support of eight Democratic Senators, and exactly eight Senators voted for it. Quite the coincidence.