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demmiblue

(39,717 posts)
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:46 PM Nov 2025

Whoa -- Sen. Durbin went to up Leader Thune during the vote last night to tell him that on the shutdown vote and ACA...

Whoa -- Sen. Durbin went to up Leader Thune during the vote last night to tell him that on the shutdown vote and ACA promise that "8 of us are sticking our neck out that you're going to keep your word. I hope you will. He said 'I assure you I will,'" Durbin says just now


Whoa -- Sen. Durbin went to up Leader Thune during the vote last night to tell him that on the shutdown vote and ACA promise that "8 of us are sticking our neck out that you're going to keep your word. I hope you will. He said 'I assure you I will,'" Durbin says just now

Burgess Everett (@burgessev.bsky.social) 2025-11-10T17:59:29.093Z

Whoa -- he promised to deliver a vote that will do nothing?

Kevin M. Kruse (@kevinmkruse.bsky.social) 2025-11-10T18:34:19.985Z

Sanders: That is a totally meaningless gesture. You can get 100 votes here and it won't mean anything because the House is not going to take it up.

Acyn (@acyn.bsky.social) 2025-11-10T01:23:17.152Z
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Whoa -- Sen. Durbin went to up Leader Thune during the vote last night to tell him that on the shutdown vote and ACA... (Original Post) demmiblue Nov 2025 OP
Oh for the absolute love of god. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #1
Lol I am with you Mr.WeRP Nov 2025 #4
OK, I'll do it for you. ananda Nov 2025 #13
Thanks. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #18
I am running out of words in the dictionary to describe the state of affairs, yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #34
So we will now have to use mute blasphemy. ananda Nov 2025 #40
Twain noted that cursing sometime provides a relief "denied even to prayer" ... eppur_se_muova Nov 2025 #55
Love Twain... bigly! ananda Nov 2025 #58
The only words we got some days are profanity. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #45
Indeed. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #53
This past Trick or Treat I was passing out candy and saw a couple of kids wearing that mask. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #54
I feel the same Celerity Nov 2025 #59
This is why real negotiations include the House *and* the Senate. OrwellwasRight Nov 2025 #2
And, typically, the President. nt mr715 Nov 2025 #56
All righty then Autumn Nov 2025 #3
LOL leftstreet Nov 2025 #5
A promise from a republican and $1 will buy you a cheap cup of coffee. CentralMass Nov 2025 #6
It won't even buy one the small senior coffee at mc d's. niyad Nov 2025 #17
I'm in Oregon. On the McD's app they have a daily deal to get any sized coffee for 99 cents. CentralMass Nov 2025 #37
Not in Dotards America. AZ8theist Nov 2025 #33
They really are living in some bygone era Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #7
Hey, Charlie Brown, er, I mean Sen. Durbin, how does it feel to have Lucy, er, I mean Sen. Thune MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #8
I have magnetic paper Attilatheblond Nov 2025 #52
His word is meaningless quakerboy Nov 2025 #9
What you said reminds me of this scene Jspur Nov 2025 #15
The Dem politicians just keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results... Fil1957 Nov 2025 #10
Doing the same thing over & over is called "INSANITY" NotHardly Nov 2025 #29
Wow MustLoveBeagles Nov 2025 #11
Durbin has always been a feckless, weak zorbasd Nov 2025 #12
Kick dalton99a Nov 2025 #14
"Fight fire with fire" needs to get from CA to DC. Duncan Grant Nov 2025 #16
When will they ever learn? usonian Nov 2025 #19
Yep, and all the time Thune was thinking, "I can't believe Dick is falling for this BULLSHIT" bluestarone Nov 2025 #20
And then Lucy moved the football Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2025 #21
Post removed Post removed Nov 2025 #22
Vote will never happen bpj62 Nov 2025 #23
☝️ CentralMass Nov 2025 #27
The way to negotiate with conservatives swong19104 Nov 2025 #24
What a Dick. miyazaki Nov 2025 #25
If we stipulate that Mr Durbin meant this... malthaussen Nov 2025 #26
This is exactly how they play the game. lees1975 Nov 2025 #28
This vote was extremely calculated. rubbersole Nov 2025 #30
Democrats apparently think we're in a Senate of gentlemen, not back stabbers. dem4decades Nov 2025 #31
A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Senate maxsolomon Nov 2025 #32
I like that. Nice one! mjvpi Nov 2025 #36
It was on the Tee Vee this weekend maxsolomon Nov 2025 #46
Thune, Johnson and their fellow Republicans take their marching orders from Trump, he doesn't keep promises. sop Nov 2025 #35
Doesn't matter if Thune keeps his word. Sneederbunk Nov 2025 #38
I guess we all do age differently fujiyamasan Nov 2025 #39
What Bernie said! BlueKota Nov 2025 #41
Good grief, Charlie Brown...Lucy... Football. Yet again NewHendoLib Nov 2025 #42
Taking thune or any republican on their word for anything is completely foolish! ffr Nov 2025 #43
So sad Emile Nov 2025 #44
He said they will have a vote Bettie Nov 2025 #47
What a fucking sucker. Javaman Nov 2025 #48
Jeezuz Fucking Christ Dick - Head Whip - Durbin. LuvLoogie Nov 2025 #49
Note to Dick Durbin: DFW Nov 2025 #50
Took a hide last night blasting this crap FHRRK Nov 2025 #51
Thune may keep his word knowing the rest of Republiterrorists will not. Lucy pull out that football again! Clouds Passing Nov 2025 #57

yellow dahlia

(5,866 posts)
34. I am running out of words in the dictionary to describe the state of affairs,
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:03 PM
Nov 2025

so I just keep inserting the F word.

So much for using our words...

ananda

(35,140 posts)
40. So we will now have to use mute blasphemy.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:26 PM
Nov 2025

He didn't utter a word, but he exuded mute blasphemy from every pore.

- Autobiography of Mark Twain, Vol. 2 (2013)

eppur_se_muova

(41,938 posts)
55. Twain noted that cursing sometime provides a relief "denied even to prayer" ...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 08:00 PM
Nov 2025

and felt that each home should have a room devoted only to cursing.

ananda

(35,140 posts)
58. Love Twain... bigly!
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 09:26 PM
Nov 2025

It might even be fun to make a curse wall
with words like "cockwomble" or
snollygoster.

yellow dahlia

(5,866 posts)
53. Indeed.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:34 PM
Nov 2025

Some days I just start sputtering.

I have also taken to using my MacCaulay Culkin/Scream face often, as I watch the abominable being reported.

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
54. This past Trick or Treat I was passing out candy and saw a couple of kids wearing that mask.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 06:39 PM
Nov 2025

They were scary looking!
But yes that is how I feel most of the time. Like the scream mask.

OrwellwasRight

(5,312 posts)
2. This is why real negotiations include the House *and* the Senate.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:49 PM
Nov 2025

But maybe none of the Congressional leaders even remember what real legislating is like…

CentralMass

(16,971 posts)
37. I'm in Oregon. On the McD's app they have a daily deal to get any sized coffee for 99 cents.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:21 PM
Nov 2025

It is actually pretty good coffee ☕️

AZ8theist

(7,370 posts)
33. Not in Dotards America.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:58 PM
Nov 2025

I don't but coffee, but it wouldn't surprise me if the price of a cup tops $15 bucks soon........

Prairie Gates

(8,151 posts)
7. They really are living in some bygone era
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:51 PM
Nov 2025

The issue is this: will there be subsidies for the ACA?

The issue is not this: will there be a vote for subsidies for the ACA?

The Republicans framed the whole thing around the second point. The Democrats WE THOUGHT were sticking to the first point, but have turned out to have accepted the second point. The second point is completely useless.

Durbin's great "Whoa!" triumph here is getting a verbal confirmation on the second point, which is useless.

Fuck's sake, we're in the weeds and goddamn sinking.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
8. Hey, Charlie Brown, er, I mean Sen. Durbin, how does it feel to have Lucy, er, I mean Sen. Thune
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:53 PM
Nov 2025

pull the football, er, I mean the "promise" of a vote just as you go to kick it?

Attilatheblond

(8,876 posts)
52. I have magnetic paper
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:27 PM
Nov 2025

Thinking a bumper sticker needs to be printed:

"DEMs: Fucking stop playing football with Lucy! "

quakerboy

(14,864 posts)
9. His word is meaningless
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:55 PM
Nov 2025

The deal is NOTHING.

Hi. I would like to buy your house for $1, but you keep the current mortgage debt and keep paying it. In return I will give you a chance to shoot a basketball at a hoop i've conveniently placed on a different continent. If you make that basket, I will agree to pay your mortgage for 12 months. Otherwise, I get the house, and you keep the debt. And If you miss, you still mow the lawn for the next 5 years as well.

He can keep his word, and it costs him nothing, because a vote is meaningless.

Jspur

(798 posts)
15. What you said reminds me of this scene
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:16 PM
Nov 2025

from the movie "White Men Can't Jump" I feel Durbin would be Woody Harrelson's character in this scene.


Fil1957

(706 posts)
10. The Dem politicians just keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:56 PM
Nov 2025

zorbasd

(526 posts)
12. Durbin has always been a feckless, weak
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:09 PM
Nov 2025

POS.
Yeah, he's retiring with great free Healthcare for the rest of his life...I got mine, so f#ck you all...ha....ha

Duncan Grant

(8,920 posts)
16. "Fight fire with fire" needs to get from CA to DC.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:16 PM
Nov 2025

This wasn’t just criminal incompetence it was a betrayal.

bluestarone

(22,174 posts)
20. Yep, and all the time Thune was thinking, "I can't believe Dick is falling for this BULLSHIT"
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:23 PM
Nov 2025

Holy fuck!!

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

bpj62

(1,067 posts)
23. Vote will never happen
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:34 PM
Nov 2025

If you think that Thune will expose Senate Republicans to a vote that will put them on the record for opposing the continuation of the subsidies, then I have a bridge to sell you. No way Thune will allow a vote to happen and create campaign ads for Democratic Senate candidates.
Thune did the math and realizes that all he has to do is wait out Durbin until next November and wait for the Democrats to remove Shumer either through a no confidence vote or a potential primary from AOC. Thune will be rewarded by Trump for being a good boy. However, Trump will still demand that the filibuster be removed because he has a laundry list of legislation that cannot be passed via reconciliation.

The Democratic leadership got played and Trump knows he holds all the cards.

swong19104

(625 posts)
24. The way to negotiate with conservatives
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:39 PM
Nov 2025

is to whisper in their ears, “You feel that tickle? That’s a shiv. It’s there until the votes are in, in our favor. If there is any problem, well, you can live with one functioning kidney. Assuming you don’t bleed out.”

They have no honor. We’ve seen that time and again. So don’t expect them to honor their words.

malthaussen

(18,567 posts)
26. If we stipulate that Mr Durbin meant this...
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:40 PM
Nov 2025

... then I suggest that it is more evidence that we need these fossils out of government (and for the record, I am a fossil myself). They are playing by rules that have been obsolete for twenty years at least. We need realists in the Democratic Party who understand exactly what it is they are dealing with, not old cronies who think the world still operates under their old-boy unspoken rules.

-- Mal

lees1975

(7,046 posts)
28. This is exactly how they play the game.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:47 PM
Nov 2025

It's called, "Lying through their teeth." Durbin, one of the Senators from my state, just bought into exactly another lie.



rubbersole

(11,222 posts)
30. This vote was extremely calculated.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:51 PM
Nov 2025

It just seems that every "too clever by half" moves the Dem politicians make ends up being more of an advantage for the wealthy rather than for working folks. Having the government shut down benefited project 2025 more than anything. Federal workers need to get back on the job before Russell Vought's destruction gets any easier.

sop

(18,605 posts)
35. Thune, Johnson and their fellow Republicans take their marching orders from Trump, he doesn't keep promises.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:04 PM
Nov 2025

Sneederbunk

(17,488 posts)
38. Doesn't matter if Thune keeps his word.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:23 PM
Nov 2025

The House will not allow it to be brought to the floor.

fujiyamasan

(1,695 posts)
39. I guess we all do age differently
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:26 PM
Nov 2025

Bernie sanders at 84 gets it.

Durbin at 80 simply does not.

ffr

(23,398 posts)
43. Taking thune or any republican on their word for anything is completely foolish!
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:37 PM
Nov 2025


How many times have they gone back on their words? How many times have they screwed this country over after saying they wouldn't? How many times will it take before people take republicans for the liars and cheats that they are? They are not people who are capable of shame from their shameful actions.

And I can kind of see why they are so shameless, when democrats fall for the same bullshit over and over again. All they have to do is lie to the media and the American people and democrats cave. Sigh!

Bettie

(19,702 posts)
47. He said they will have a vote
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:50 PM
Nov 2025

they will and the subsidies will be voted down....wow, what an ask, give them the very thing they want.

Will those 8 vote no on the subsidies as a favor to Thune? Maybe.

Javaman

(65,705 posts)
48. What a fucking sucker.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 04:55 PM
Nov 2025

Fuck you durbin, this is what you will be forever remembered for.

You should have retired BEFORE the vote

For fuck sakes. Have they not yet cleared the bullshit out of their eyes from the last time the repukes promised them???

LuvLoogie

(8,814 posts)
49. Jeezuz Fucking Christ Dick - Head Whip - Durbin.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:14 PM
Nov 2025

Your constituents, women are getting shot, dragged out of their cars, and abducted in the streets of Chicago by armed, masked racist militia hired by Shit Mouth. I hope your pension gets deleted.

DFW

(60,180 posts)
50. Note to Dick Durbin:
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:17 PM
Nov 2025

Marie Antoinette stuck her neck out, too. It was the last thing she ever did.

FHRRK

(1,410 posts)
51. Took a hide last night blasting this crap
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 05:19 PM
Nov 2025

So I will say thank you Durbin, you did an excellent job negotiating from a position of power and all of the Centrist Dems should be thanked profusely for taking care of their constituents.

Clouds Passing

(7,928 posts)
57. Thune may keep his word knowing the rest of Republiterrorists will not. Lucy pull out that football again!
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 08:34 PM
Nov 2025
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