Some Democrats will disappoint us

[Pototan]

Every Republican wants to destroy us.

The choice is yours.

[Silent Type]

1. I'll take a Manchin compared to the GOPer who took his seat, at least nowadays.

[Demsrule86]

11. No doubt. But Manchin came through on important votes

If he had not voted for the ACA during Trumps first term we would have lost despite Mcains efforts. We need leaders who will fight for us.

[yaesu]

2. millions losing their healthcare is more than a disappointment. nt

[jcmaine72]

15. This

If someone is going to argue that taking cyanide is deadly, I wish they wouldn't point to strychnine and offer that as a healthier alternative.

The stakes were too high on this. What one person might refer to as a "disappointment" another might see as rank cowardice and complicity.

[Kaleva]

17. If one stays loyal to the Party, then it's probably just a disappointment

[LonePirate]

3. Those Republicans had 8 helpers.

[iemanja]

4. THEY chose the Republicans

THEY chose Trump. They sent us a giant fuck you.

[leftstreet]

5. "Disappointment" is getting socks for Xmas

[FoxNewsSucks]

6. I suppose that's how some rationalize it.

Doesn't mean we should keep settling for mediocrity or appeasers. We need those who would FIGHT our destroyers. Nothing less.

[Fiendish Thingy]

7. Disappointment is one thing

Cowardly betrayal is another.

[mr715]

8. Yeah, but I only vote for democrats.

So when I have the choice between different flavors of them, I will be selective.

[Demsrule86]

9. I will vote for Democrats. But we improve our candidates through

Systemic primarying. Choosing candidates who will serve us.

[W_HAMILTON]

10. And until the voters learn that, we will continue to be fucked.

GET RID OF BAD DEMOCRATS IN THE PRIMARY -- NOT THE FUCKING GENERAL. THAT JUST LEAVES US ALL WITH DEPLORABLE REPUBLICANS AND THEIR MESS OF A NATION.

WE WOULD NOT BE HAVING ANY OF THESE DEBATES HAD DEMOCRATS BEEN IN CHARGE OF THE GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW.

[In It to Win It]

12. It's the perks of being in a big tent party

[Cirsium]

16. Not so

The "big tent" party would faithfully represent the 70-80% of the public that support very progressive positions on almost every issue. A "big tent" party would never be in the position that we are in today.

We have a very small tent: corporate donors, consultants, and a few mass media personalities.

[walkingman]

13. I don't see anyone stepping up with the desire to replace Sen. Schumer.

[summer_in_TX]

14. Dems did NOT "cave".

They made sure that “fired” federal workers (the ones that Trump fired during the shutdown) would be reinstated. And that all those furloughed workers would get back pay. That makes a huge difference not only to their families, but to the economy of their communities too.

Republicans were going to cede nothing. But Dems held out long enough to force them to cave.

[Demsrule86]

19. No they caved. And I highly doubt any GOP

Will honor the ‘agreement’. It took us more than a hundred years to get healthcare. It was a bitter fight. We gave up the House for this important legislation. And our leaders ‘bargained ’ it away. We likely will never get it back and millions will die.

[Demsrule86]

21. We got nothing.

[hay rick]

18. The enhanced ACA subsidies included as part of the Inflation Reduction Act were scheduled to expire at the end in 2025.

The OBBB Act did nothing to change that. The expiration of those subsidies returns the ACA to pre-2021 levels. Additional harm will be done by changing the qualification standards, but it is unrealistic to expect Democrats to be able to rewrite that legislation when they are in the minority. Allowing SNAP beneficiaries and federal workers to be held as hostages is both cruel and likely to be futile.

[Demsrule86]

20. Sure and like affordable health care still will be available

based on 5 year old data right? Healthcare has gone up you know. This is unaffordable and many will die. Soon theACA Will disappear. I am furious. We must have better leaders who fight for us. The ones we have are complicit in destroying the ACA whether intentional or not.

[Demsrule86]

22. You no better than that. People won't be able

to afford coverage. It is essentially gone for probably millions.