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Arazi

(8,887 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 11:33 AM Nov 2025

The GOP and White House are "cackling with glee", calling Dem capitulation "losers and pussies"

For anyone wondering how this administration is going to spin Dems folding 🙄

“Multiple Trump aides and allies … reveled in the relief from a shutdown that even President Trump acknowledged was getting Republicans killed politically”.

Sheesh
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Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan.bsky.social) 2025-11-11T01:23:37.543Z
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The GOP and White House are "cackling with glee", calling Dem capitulation "losers and pussies" (Original Post) Arazi Nov 2025 OP
Troops love it when their leaders get them humiliated in front of the enemy. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #1
Yep. Does wonders for morale and almost johnnyfins Nov 2025 #2
Wait, you're not excited about a clean CR and the promise of a doomed vote on ACA subs next month? BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #15
I'm so psyched to work my ass off for Dems for the midterms Arazi Nov 2025 #3
Well, yeah... displacedvermoter Nov 2025 #4
What? They aren't licking their wounds after a "huge victory for the Dems"? I'm shocked! Whyisthisstillclose Nov 2025 #5
Aides and allies say what I was thinking of my own party. NCDem47 Nov 2025 #6
It's actually worse than that. BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #14
The only positive I can see coming out this shit storm is that Mikey Johnson is MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #7
But...but....we've been told that this Bettie Nov 2025 #8
They call us losers and pussies anyway, so it's business as usual. Vinca Nov 2025 #9
Weird, misinformed, anti-Democratic Party hot takes are nothing new from Medhi Hasan. lapucelle Nov 2025 #11
Too many Boo1 Nov 2025 #12
Welcome to DU Mossfern Nov 2025 #30
I'm sorry, but "a humiliated Trump"???? Are you actually serious when you use that phrase? hamsterjill Nov 2025 #16
Why be sorry about a humiliated Donald Trump who will be forced to sign a Democratic funding bill lapucelle Nov 2025 #17
I think the problem is believing there's gonna be a "humiliated" Traitor Arazi Nov 2025 #21
That the Republicans "kneecapped the Democrats" is not only false, lapucelle Nov 2025 #26
Thank you. hamsterjill Nov 2025 #29
There's a gaslighting campaign going on now fujiyamasan Nov 2025 #34
Because your thinking is flawed when you believe that Trump is going to be humiliated. hamsterjill Nov 2025 #28
Sorry, but I don't buy into the theory that any misperception on Trump's part serves as reality lapucelle Nov 2025 #31
Given what I've read recently on social media. hamsterjill Nov 2025 #32
Cackling with glee over millions of people losing their health care insurance. Quiet Em Nov 2025 #10
Of course they are. BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #13
As opposed to letting the clock run out on open enrollment as of Dec. 15, after which time Sogo Nov 2025 #19
You think that vote is happening before 12/15? Arazi Nov 2025 #20
Who cares what those MOFOs say? Sogo Nov 2025 #18
Well, we were winning the public opinion battle, driving down Repubs favorability, LR3 Nov 2025 #22
Trump also called US troops suckers and losers and insulted John McCain for being captured and tortured EdmondDantes_ Nov 2025 #23
unconditional surrender when you are WINNING the battle will result in statements like that Takket Nov 2025 #24
My phone gets several money begs a day... tonekat Nov 2025 #25
"I have insurance premiums to pay" durablend Nov 2025 #33
The shutdown was killing the repubs & we saved them. CrispyQ Nov 2025 #27
MAGA republicans are sadistic psychopaths. Initech Nov 2025 #35
I guess "pussies" want children mzmolly Nov 2025 #36
These comments are in regards to Senators who caved Arazi Nov 2025 #37
I understand the frustration. mzmolly Nov 2025 #38
I don't give a fuck what they say. 2 Meow Momma Nov 2025 #39

BannonsLiver

(20,589 posts)
15. Wait, you're not excited about a clean CR and the promise of a doomed vote on ACA subs next month?
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:01 PM
Nov 2025

Im not understanding how people aren’t inspired by that, especially with Lawerence’s amazing commentary last night.

NCDem47

(3,470 posts)
6. Aides and allies say what I was thinking of my own party.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:01 PM
Nov 2025

Don't Dems know how bullies work/think when they beat someone up?

BannonsLiver

(20,589 posts)
14. It's actually worse than that.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:59 PM
Nov 2025

In our politics bullying is respected/rewarded and the bullied, much less so. So there’s that.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
7. The only positive I can see coming out this shit storm is that Mikey Johnson is
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:04 PM
Nov 2025

now saying he doesn't know if or when he'll bring up the ACA extension, which means never, and when people can't afford health ins. anymore and the economy really, really tanks, people are going to point their fingers at the repukes, this is what Congressional Democrats should be hammering 24/7 far and wide.

Bettie

(19,702 posts)
8. But...but....we've been told that this
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:04 PM
Nov 2025

is somehow a win for Democrats!

But, the whole thing did rid many of us of that pesky feeling of hope after the election.

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
11. Weird, misinformed, anti-Democratic Party hot takes are nothing new from Medhi Hasan.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:22 PM
Nov 2025

The deal forces Johnson to pass the two Democratic funding bills that Senate Democrats have been trying to bring to the floor for months and that were finally passed last night, and a humiliated Trump will be made to sign them into law.

SNAP and the VA will be fully funded until the end of the fiscal year (September 30, 2026), with an increase in appropriations to SNAP.

Republicans lost the threat of hungry kids and abandoned veterans as a bargaining chip in the next go-around in January.

And the Epstein files will once again become the top story.

Sorry, but Hasan's amplification of Republican talking points, while hardly surprising, is incredibly misinformed.

Boo1

(354 posts)
12. Too many
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:56 PM
Nov 2025

Can't see the forest for the trees.

Getting ACA subsidies with republican control wasn't going to happen. Expecting otherwise is delusional.

You have the promise of a vote, which will fail, but in the end you either have republicans on record or they dont have the vote and you hammer them with it. It will also cause internal strife with folks like MTG.

You also have snap funded, as you said and plenty of chances is to revisit the fight.

Trumps poll numbers were crished during it as well, and those won't recover just from it ending.


They shut down the government for 40 days, the longest shutdown ever. They couldn't keep it shut down forever. Will people lose Healthcare? Yes. Will people die? Yes. Those things were decided when Republicans took power, nothing democrats could do to stop it.

hamsterjill

(17,576 posts)
16. I'm sorry, but "a humiliated Trump"???? Are you actually serious when you use that phrase?
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:04 PM
Nov 2025

That statement alone tells me so much.

Trump does not feel anything. Nada. Zip. Zilch. So, he does not know HOW TO BE humiliated. He's a psychopath bully. He will sign bills and take full credit for it all.

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
17. Why be sorry about a humiliated Donald Trump who will be forced to sign a Democratic funding bill
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:18 PM
Nov 2025

(that had been stuck in committee for months) that not only secures SNAP until the end of the fiscal year, but also increases its funding?

All for the guy who was holding out for a "clean CR".

NB
I never allow Republican narratives to shape Democratic messaging, most especially so when the Republican narrative is counterfactual to reality, as it frequently is.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
21. I think the problem is believing there's gonna be a "humiliated" Traitor
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:41 PM
Nov 2025

He and his fellow thugs know they kneecapped the Dems. There’s zero humiliation on their side of the aisle.

The opposite actually

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
26. That the Republicans "kneecapped the Democrats" is not only false,
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:15 PM
Nov 2025

but it is also a Republican talking point.

Sorry, but I don't allow Republicans to frame the Democratic message, especially not when the Republican message is counterfactual to reality, as it frequently is.

fujiyamasan

(1,695 posts)
34. There's a gaslighting campaign going on now
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 03:27 PM
Nov 2025

What are we supposed to do now? Sing the praises of the glorious brave 8 that bucked the party?

hamsterjill

(17,576 posts)
28. Because your thinking is flawed when you believe that Trump is going to be humiliated.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:31 PM
Nov 2025

He doesn't know how to be humiliated, so he (himself) won't feel humiliation, and his followers are still going to see this as a victory for him. He will smile at the cameras and take credit for ending the shutdown. And the Average Joe will probably buy it.

Meanwhile, this action has pissed off many Democratic voters (like myself) and taken away the momentum that had been gained by last weeks elections (in my opinion, of course). But the all around mood and the polls reflect that as well. Many (if not most) are not happy about the eight Senators caving.

What does NB mean?

It's usually the media who is shaping the message. I care what the voters are hearing and believing, and I think it' pretty much the general consensus that Democrats need to do better and work harder on their messaging. I sincerely hope that they will begin to do that in a forceful and clear manner.

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
31. Sorry, but I don't buy into the theory that any misperception on Trump's part serves as reality
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 03:12 PM
Nov 2025

or that Trump's failure to secure a clean CR counts as a victory for him, especially not when he will be forced to sign Democratic
appropriations bills that guarantee funds to hungry kids and veterans into law.

Given what I have been reading on social media, it is true that some people absolutely suck at messaging and need to work harder not to amplify Republican and anti-Democratic Party talking points. They also need to take steps to be better informed.

--------------------------------------

NB is the Latin nota bene. It's used to emphasize something important.

Cui bono is also a Latin phrase commonly used. It means, "who benefits".

So who benefits from Republican talking points being amplified in liberal spaces?

Cui bono?


Not Democrats.


hamsterjill

(17,576 posts)
32. Given what I've read recently on social media.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 03:23 PM
Nov 2025

There are many who don’t see the reality that we are living through.

Have yourself a wonderful afternoon!

Quiet Em

(2,936 posts)
10. Cackling with glee over millions of people losing their health care insurance.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:10 PM
Nov 2025

I can assure you that the people are not cackling with glee.

They are showing everyone who they are. Despicable, deplorable creeps.

BannonsLiver

(20,589 posts)
13. Of course they are.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:57 PM
Nov 2025

But hey, we’re getting a clean CR and a promise of a doomed vote next month!

Sogo

(7,191 posts)
19. As opposed to letting the clock run out on open enrollment as of Dec. 15, after which time
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:23 PM
Nov 2025

rates and coverage are locked in to begin January 1?

Sogo

(7,191 posts)
18. Who cares what those MOFOs say?
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:20 PM
Nov 2025

It's clear they are evil bastards who don't give a sh!t about the American people.

LR3

(177 posts)
22. Well, we were winning the public opinion battle, driving down Repubs favorability,
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:46 PM
Nov 2025

hanging premium increases on the opposition, spotlighting the Repubs cruelty, winning elections in landslides, and hurting Repubs even according to the Orange Dingus.

Obviously we had no option but to capitulate.

EdmondDantes_

(1,794 posts)
23. Trump also called US troops suckers and losers and insulted John McCain for being captured and tortured
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:56 PM
Nov 2025

I don't worry much about Trump calling people names.

Takket

(23,714 posts)
24. unconditional surrender when you are WINNING the battle will result in statements like that
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:59 PM
Nov 2025

Well deserved. Absolutely the most stupid thing I've ever seen this party do.

tonekat

(2,528 posts)
25. My phone gets several money begs a day...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:04 PM
Nov 2025

...from Dems. These are as welcome as the goddamn "Hello, hello?" calls that come in.

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
27. The shutdown was killing the repubs & we saved them.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:17 PM
Nov 2025

Actually, I think shutting the govt down was a stupid dem gamble that didn't pay off. IDK where they got the idea the repubs would agree to extend the ACA tax credits, but when you use the only leverage you have, which was shutting the govt down, then IMO they should have held strong & not caved. Has Trump released all the SNAP benefits? If not, then WTF?

When I was a kid & a young adult I thought the dems were the smart party. Now? I'm kind of embarrassed at how badly we've been played the past 45 years. I have hope in the younger gen dems who aren't burdened by sentimental & kind feelings toward their long-time colleagues.

Initech

(108,772 posts)
35. MAGA republicans are sadistic psychopaths.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 03:33 PM
Nov 2025

They're the bullies who beat you up for your lunch money and then shove you into your locker. They're the restaurant reviewers who write 1 star reviews. They're the professional complainers. They would take candy from a baby and then have that baby deported by ICE.

mzmolly

(52,792 posts)
36. I guess "pussies" want children
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 07:51 PM
Nov 2025

to eat and federal employees to return to work.

On the other hand... https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/government-shutdown-latest-house-senate-vote/



...

Jeffries says Democrats will offer amendment to extend health care tax credits for 3 years
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries told reporters that Democrats will offer an amendment during the House Rules Committee meeting to extend the expiring health care tax credits for three years.

"House Republicans, welcome back from your taxpayer-funded seven-week vacation," the New York Democrat said ahead of the meeting. "You now have an opportunity to actually take some action in an area of this health care crisis by working with Democrats before the Rules Committee this evening to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits."

...

Rep.-elect Adelita Grijalva, an Arizona Democrat, will be sworn in at 4 p.m. Wednesday, according to House Speaker Mike Johnson's office.

The House is expected to begin voting on the funding bill to reopen the government soon after that.

Grijalva's swearing-in will not affect the two-vote margin Republicans currently hold.

She will be the decisive signature on a petition to force a vote on releasing files related to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
37. These comments are in regards to Senators who caved
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 08:32 PM
Nov 2025

The House is up now. Let’s see what they do

2 Meow Momma

(6,876 posts)
39. I don't give a fuck what they say.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 10:00 PM
Nov 2025

It would matter if anyone except super maga idiots respected their opinion...so it doesn't matter.

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