Pondering why Boebert, Greene, and Mace signed and would not remove their signatures from the discharge petition....

[Sogo]

Boebert, Greene, and Mace signed and, in the case of Boebert and Mace, would not remove their signatures from it. We're not aware if Greene was also pressured to remove her signature.

Nancy Mace has admitted to having been an abuse victim and left the room in quite an emotional state after some of Epstein's victims were being interviewed in the House. Nothing (that I'm aware of) is known about Boebert or Greene in the context of sexual abuse....

It's common knowledge that sex abusers do not do well in prison, because so many of the prisoners themselves have been sexually abused. The "not doing well in prison" often means the fellow prisoner who is in for abuse is killed. Call it displaced revenge for never being able to get back at their abuser. "Displaced revenge refers to the act of directing revenge towards a target other than the original transgressor, often as a psychological response to feelings of powerlessness or frustration."

Are there any dots to be connected here?

[RockRaven]

1. A) they're true believers that there's a bunch of leftists/Dems/elites to expose there,

or B) they know their appeal to their base is contingent on following through on "the Epstein files"

I don't know which one it is; and across the four of Massie, Mace, Bobo, MTG it might vary.

[2naSalit]

2. I suspect...

They are all victims of sexual abuse or close to someone who is.

[rampartd]

27. we are all in one of those categories

whether we know or not.

there might be some excuse to cover for these people, but i sure can not figure it out.

their susceptibility to extortion makes them poor choices to uphold and defend the constitution.

[Silent Type]

3. I saw clips of MTG, she's still a GOPer, but I think she is really pissed at the exploitation and coverup.

Not gonna vote for her/them, but I think these women are serious on this issue. They’ll be back loving trump soon, but glad to see them drawing a line.

[pnwest]

4. My take is they're as tired of his bullshit

as everyone else, tired of pretending he’s God, tired of kissing his ass - but too afraid to speak against him or move to remove him. I’m thinking they all hope the Epstein thing will finally take him out, and that they will be able to carry on with their agenda, stronger for having finally removed the distraction bringing them all down. I suspect the party will implode as everyone maneuvers for power, but I don’t think THEY think that will happen. But, bottom line, they’re not removing their names because everyone is secretly sick of his shit, and they all know he’s got dementia.

[Demsrule86]

20. MTG is my sister's Congreewoman.

My sister says she has been disturbed by ICE especially the kids. May have had sexual trauma in her life. While, she may not agree with us, she doesn’t want us without health care, or worse dead or in concentration camps. She also fears for Trumps power grab and fears fascism. In Georgia they never expanded Medicare and you had to go through the Fed for the ACA. Hospitals are shuttered all over Georgia. She also thinks she could be out of a job. This is going around in Georgia . Make what you Will of it. Trump didn’t call her much about this I noticed.

[Frasier Balzov]

5. They have faith that he has done no wrong.

And are confident that voting for release of the files is the best way to end the long shadows being cast by keeping them hidden.

[ecstatic]

18. Yup. They're convinced that if something bad was there Biden would have released it

They don't seem to understand that Biden was hands off with the doj/fbi.

[Demsrule86]

21. I don't believe that.

[SSJVegeta]

6. Greene has all but entirely parted ways with the president

Only Mace and Boebert seemed remotely persuadable...

[Cha]

7. It's amazing to me because they

must know he's a "star" participant, for many years, in the Epstein Files... and cemented when he "begged them to take their names off the petition". Traitor groveling.

Everyone knows... Especially bondi..and vacne.. Pedophiles adjacent.

[Stacey Grove]

8. They sucked trump ass

and didn't get a seat at the money trough?

[W_HAMILTON]

9. Trump doesn't have to face voters again, but those three do.

It's nice of you to ascribe honorable motives to them, but odds are it's simple ambition politics.

They have aspirations for higher office and don't want to get out-MAGA'd in a primary by some QAnon fuckhead with Epstein as his campaign centerpiece.

[Demsrule86]

22. It could be both.

[W_HAMILTON]

36. Maybe, but given how Mace (in particular) has belittled other SA victims...

...I doubt she did this out of the goodness of her heart.

[sop]

29. I think it's as simple as wanting to retain their seats.

Being seen as Trump-Epstein enablers in their districts could mean a primary challenger.

[J_William_Ryan]

10. "Are there any dots to be connected here?"

No.

They know the Epstein ‘thing’ won’t force Trump out of office; their political calculus says keep pushing for release.

[xmas74]

11. 1 in 4 women have been sexually abused.

82% of women have been harassed/assaulted/abused/raped. There is a high probability all three have been affected at one time.

[Prairie Gates]

14. Mace is very open about having been sexually assaulted

and has based her discharge petition signature on that.

[Buckeyeblue]

12. They know reelection will be difficult

They can't run on Don's failed policies. But they can run on keeping their word to release the files.

[Prairie Gates]

13. Greene is angling for a post-MAGA presidency

Boebert and Mace are her top allies who want to ride the ship with her.

Greene is going to challenge Vance's ascendency. So will a lot of others, because they know Vance is an unlikeable dickwad who will get his clock cleaned by either Gavin Newsom or JB Pritzker. The MAGA solution to this problem is Trump himself, of course, which is why Bannon is hammering the 22nd Amendment day and night. But the GOPs refusal to nuke the filibuster and MTG's continued attacks on Trump are the signal that the GOP is going to resist that. This is also why Trump has been relatively muted about the shutdown "win." Lurking in the details is the GOP's early refusal to go along with the Third Termers.

[Demsrule86]

23. MTG does not get on with Boebert well from

What I have heard. None of my family would vote for her but they don’t think this is lying. They live in Georgia… I don’t.

[GoCubsGo]

15. The first rats off the sinking ship.

And, trying to secure future power. They see the writing on the wall, and know there will be a power vacuum once this whole thing explodes. They know that anyone who stands by Trump will go down with him, and they want the ones left to take over once the others are taken down.

[hatrack]

16. They face reelection in less than a year - and he doesn't . . . .

They like their jobs and have to please their MAGAt voters on at least some issue or another.

[Bettie]

17. Mace has made her entire personality

about being a victim...so, this would short-circuit that narrative and it seems very important to her brand.

Marge is angry at the Republicans who want her sidelined and I suspect this is triangulation to gain more clout in the party by being able to say "I stood up for victims".

Boebert is dumb as a stump, so who knows why she does anything.

[Jersey Devil]

19. Another possible reason - They know a coverup won't work

These are all people who have inside information as to what is going on at DOJ and the FBI. They may have sources within those agencies who are telling them that if things go a certain way they will blow the whistle on the coverup, and they don't want to be tangled up in it.

[Demsrule86]

24. I think that could be it. I could never for any amount

Of money or favors accept pedophila .

Many Women have been assaulted. Including me. I told my story here before so I won’t bore you. It happened decades ago but I have never forgotten. Maybe they remember their story too. I don’t know.

[Johonny]

25. Theyre thinking about the future without Trump

And you have to assume, every GOPer on the hill knows what is in the Epstein files linked to Trump by now.

[Ocelot II]

26. They, along with Massie, have grokked that Trump is becoming weaker,

and when he finally falls they don't want to be on the side that protected sex traffickers.

[yourout]

28. Wonder what percent of the female population have...

Been through some form of sexual abuse?

[SARose]

30. A lot of us!

A lot of us have had

Butts pinched

Boobs groped

Tongues stuck down our throats

Hand forcibly placed on erect penises

Told no promotion unless we “put out”

Whistled at or catcalled on the street

Sexual assault doesn’t mean just penetration or sodomy or fellatio.

Did I miss anything, ladies?

[obamanut2012]

32. OMG look at my post under yours

Exactly,

[Ocelot II]

33. I wonder what percentage haven't?

Only a very small one, I think.

[obamanut2012]

31. Most girls and women have been sexually violated in some way

Having an uncle sit you on his lap and move you around when you were little, date rape, having a male teacher be creepy with you, molested by your stepdad, catcalled and followed, etc.

And yes, it's most. And almost always done by a male.

[Scrivener7]

34. They've seen more of the Epstein files than we have, know their release is inevitable,

and want to distance themselves?

I can dream, right? But I don't think that's out of the realm of possibility.

[Fichefinder]

35. Because they certainly know that Trump will never sign it into law.