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DavidDvorkin

(20,460 posts)
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 05:05 PM Nov 13

Why won't pro-Palestinian protesters turn their attention to Darfur?

An American ally is funding mass slaughter in Sudan. American protesters are nowhere to be found.

Here’s a stark fact: More people may have been killed in Sudan in just the past week than in Gaza in the past two years.


https://forward.com/opinion/782902/sudan-conflict-united-states-protests-darfur/
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Why won't pro-Palestinian protesters turn their attention to Darfur? (Original Post) DavidDvorkin Nov 13 OP
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This message was self-deleted by its author SunSeeker Nov 13 #2
Darfur doesn't get the same media attention SocialDemocrat61 Nov 13 #3
Are you suggesting that the folks who were screaming "Genocide Joe" at Biden don't know about Darfur? nt SunSeeker Nov 13 #6
No SocialDemocrat61 Nov 13 #9
Seems like circular logic. SunSeeker Nov 14 #19
If the media is not covering SocialDemocrat61 Nov 14 #20
We protest to get media to pay attention to a cause we cared about that is being ignored. SunSeeker Nov 14 #21
True, that's what sincere protestors do SocialDemocrat61 Nov 14 #22
Good question. SunSeeker Nov 13 #4
It isn't even the pro Palestinian protesters per se sarisataka Nov 13 #5
I'd love to see more DUers mention Darfur without whining about pro-Palestinian protesters muriel_volestrangler Nov 13 #7
There is a strange phenomenon sarisataka Nov 13 #10
I posted about Sudan a while back and the same thing happened. Violet_Crumble Nov 13 #14
Our dear ally Qatar is funding the terror in Darfur and comradebillyboy Nov 14 #26
Other Arab countries are more involved muriel_volestrangler Nov 14 #48
+1 leftstreet Nov 14 #42
135 views for your OP. Over 900 for this one. Kaleva Nov 14 #45
Are we giving Sudan 2000-pound bombs to carry out the slaughter? biocube Nov 13 #8
Because they know there is nothing to be done? maxsolomon Nov 13 #11
The article explains why the US does have juice in this case, too. DavidDvorkin Nov 13 #12
Because the UAE is supplying weapons. maxsolomon Nov 13 #16
And where does the UAE get its weapons? SunSeeker Nov 13 #17
The difference is we are selling them weapons questionseverything Nov 14 #23
So it's ok because we're making money off it? SunSeeker Nov 14 #28
We ( as the American people) aren't making money off selling weapons questionseverything Nov 14 #40
We ( as the American people) aren't making money off the investments the student protesters wanted divested either. SunSeeker Nov 14 #50
*rump has definitely ramped things up between us questionseverything Nov 14 #58
They buy from all the large arms making countries. Russia and France supply as well. US is not Melon Nov 14 #29
The US is the UAE's largest arms supplier, especially under Trump. SunSeeker Nov 14 #52
Sudan Melon Nov 14 #59
I've never heard it called the 51st state ever Samael13 Nov 13 #13
I can't help it if you live under a rock. maxsolomon Nov 13 #15
I've never heard Israel called the "51st state," and I don't live under a rock. SunSeeker Nov 13 #18
We sell them weapons , sadly besides soybeans we sell more weapons than anything else questionseverything Nov 14 #27
Because the protests are mostly about hatred of Jews JI7 Nov 14 #24
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Just as I said your criticism of what is happening in Sudan is towards Israel JI7 Nov 14 #32
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Lame, the US is not the center of the world JI7 Nov 14 #36
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Shit goes on without the US. The US has only existed JI7 Nov 14 #41
The Gaza Holocaust was done through the complicity of the US. AnonymousUser Nov 14 #44
Israel is a Jewish state, Jerusalem is her eternal and indivisible capital tritsofme Nov 14 #47
Welcome to DU sarisataka Nov 14 #38
Because there's no Jews involved. And the 2024 election is over Arazi Nov 14 #25
Because when you can't blame Jews it's not news nycbos Nov 14 #30
Good question. nt mcar Nov 14 #33
because they couldn't blame Biden or otherwise have an excuse to help trump themaguffin Nov 14 #35
What makes anything get the spotlight? EdmondDantes_ Nov 14 #37
The janajanaweed have been terrorizing sudan since the mid 80s questionseverything Nov 14 #43
Wrong religion and color Kaleva Nov 14 #46
Sudan is a majority Muslim nation. AnonymousUser Nov 14 #49
Black Muslims killing black Muslims doesn't attract attention Kaleva Nov 14 #51
Why won't pro-Palestinian protesters turn their attention to Darfur? enid602 Nov 14 #53
Because jaymac Nov 14 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author AnonymousUser Nov 14 #55
Strange question on the one hand.....n/t msfiddlestix Nov 14 #56
Why? Because Sudan does not get the media, political, or religious focus walkingman Nov 14 #57

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SunSeeker

(57,391 posts)
6. Are you suggesting that the folks who were screaming "Genocide Joe" at Biden don't know about Darfur? nt
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 05:36 PM
Nov 13

SunSeeker

(57,391 posts)
19. Seems like circular logic.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 01:08 AM
Nov 14

If they don't protest AEU-supplied US arms in Darfur slaughtering civilians, then the media is not going to talk about it.

SocialDemocrat61

(6,580 posts)
20. If the media is not covering
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 04:05 AM
Nov 14

Darfur, but is covering Gaza; what are they going to protest to get more attention? Because it’s all about getting attention.

SunSeeker

(57,391 posts)
21. We protest to get media to pay attention to a cause we cared about that is being ignored.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 05:21 AM
Nov 14

Protest is supposed to elevate attention to a cause.

SocialDemocrat61

(6,580 posts)
22. True, that's what sincere protestors do
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 05:41 AM
Nov 14

Not protestors who’s goal is just to embrace the latest cool cause and get attention. Or those who just want to demonize those they don’t like (i.e. democrats).

SunSeeker

(57,391 posts)
4. Good question.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 05:33 PM
Nov 13

All I hear about Darfur from the pro-Palestinian folks who were screaming "Genocide Joe" at Biden is...

sarisataka

(22,183 posts)
5. It isn't even the pro Palestinian protesters per se
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 05:33 PM
Nov 13

But the many who claimed it had nothing to do with Jews or even necessarily Israel but that they were opposed to genocide.

It is their silence that is now deafening.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,376 posts)
7. I'd love to see more DUers mention Darfur without whining about pro-Palestinian protesters
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 05:36 PM
Nov 13

It would make the posts look a lot more authentic.

sarisataka

(22,183 posts)
10. There is a strange phenomenon
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 05:52 PM
Nov 13

That if Sudan is mentioned on its own , the thread drops like a stone

For example I posted this thread yesterday without any reference to I/P
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220799773
The observant will notice. It received less views in over 24 hours than this thread has in less than an hour.

Violet_Crumble

(36,357 posts)
14. I posted about Sudan a while back and the same thing happened.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 06:23 PM
Nov 13

Strange that the regulars who always complain about Sudan not getting the same amount of attention as Palestine never appear in Sudan threads. Same goes for any thread about settler attacks on Palestinians in the West Bank. Its almost like to be labelled a terrorist, they must be Palestinian

Successive US government's haven't funded and supported what's happening in Sudan. And Sudan has the misfortune of being in Africa, where if bad things aren't happening to white South Africans then most media don't pay attention.

Another thing. Is the expectation that if we protest what's happening in Gaza (which I have), that we must also protest what's happening in Sudan? Why stop there? What about Ukraine? Should we expect anyone who protests about Ukraine to also protest about Gaza? Also, how do we know what people are or aren't protesting about or caring about? Its all a bit ridiculous, imho.

comradebillyboy

(10,933 posts)
26. Our dear ally Qatar is funding the terror in Darfur and
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 10:08 AM
Nov 14

elsewhere.

But there aren't any Jews in Qatar to be angry with.

maxsolomon

(38,022 posts)
11. Because they know there is nothing to be done?
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 05:52 PM
Nov 13

America has no juice in that conflict. We've never been an ally of Sudan's dictators and warlords and militias and juntas.

Whereas Israel has been called "the 51st State" my entire life.

questionseverything

(11,507 posts)
23. The difference is we are selling them weapons
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 07:25 AM
Nov 14

With Israel we are giving them tons of money and have been doing that for decades

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But I personally have been complaining that we should of stopped the murderous gangs since the janajanaweed were riding and murdering from village to village on camels and horses ( so decades)

questionseverything

(11,507 posts)
40. We ( as the American people) aren't making money off selling weapons
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 03:17 PM
Nov 14

Weapons manufacturers are and sadly weapons seem to be on of (our) biggest exports

So while we are loosely connected our relationship with the uae is nothing compared to the USA’s connection to Israel

Meanwhile murders of Palestinians by “settlers “ is so brazen and out of control even Israel’s government is condemning it for the first time.

SunSeeker

(57,391 posts)
50. We ( as the American people) aren't making money off the investments the student protesters wanted divested either.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 04:28 PM
Nov 14

Under Trump, our connection to the UAE seems to be at least as tight as it is to Israel, or West Bank Israeli settlers. We have a military base in the UAE.

Since October 7, 2023, and up until November 13, 2025, Israeli security forces and settlers have killed 1,017 Palestinians in the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem.

Just between January 1 and June 30, 2025, at least 3,384 civilians were killed in the conflict in Sudan, mostly in Darfur. In late October of this year, the Sudan Doctors Network reported that at least 1,500 people were killed in just three days as civilians tried to flee the besieged city of el-Fasher after it fell to the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces (RSF). Other sources mention over 2,000 civilians killed during the RSF's invasion of the city.

questionseverything

(11,507 posts)
58. *rump has definitely ramped things up between us
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 06:41 PM
Nov 14

I don’t necessarily approve but no one asked me!

Melon

(944 posts)
29. They buy from all the large arms making countries. Russia and France supply as well. US is not
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 02:09 PM
Nov 14

The largest nor historically the big supplier in the region. Those guys carry Chinese, Egyptian, Russian, etc equipment. We are a bit player.

SunSeeker

(57,391 posts)
52. The US is the UAE's largest arms supplier, especially under Trump.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 04:42 PM
Nov 14

We are definitely not a bit player. We have a military base in the UAE. The UAE purchased approximately $1.5 billion worth of military equipment from the United States in 2023. This includes a recent deal approved in May 2025 for $1.4 billion, which covers helicopters and F-16 parts, and a previous deal in October 2024 for $139 million for artillery, machine guns, and tanks. 

SunSeeker

(57,391 posts)
18. I've never heard Israel called the "51st state," and I don't live under a rock.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 11:51 PM
Nov 13

And I'm not new to DU.

But I have heard that the US is the largest weapons supplier to the UAE, providing the UAE with a wide range of war equipment including bombs, missiles, and fighter jets.

JI7

(93,074 posts)
24. Because the protests are mostly about hatred of Jews
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 09:43 AM
Nov 14

Even when criticizing the UAE or Saudi Arabia they are referred to as Zionist supporters.

They need to attach the Jews to it in order be critical.

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JI7

(93,074 posts)
41. Shit goes on without the US. The US has only existed
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 03:21 PM
Nov 14

for a few hundred years and been a superpower for less.

Things were going on before the US.


 

AnonymousUser

(11 posts)
44. The Gaza Holocaust was done through the complicity of the US.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 03:31 PM
Nov 14

America deserves to be scorn for their relentless backing of the apartheid state in West Asia. That is why many protestors came out in the streets in the last couple of years.

tritsofme

(19,757 posts)
47. Israel is a Jewish state, Jerusalem is her eternal and indivisible capital
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 03:44 PM
Nov 14

I am proud of the Democratic Party and America’s strong support of the Jewish state!

Welcome to DU!

Arazi

(8,654 posts)
25. Because there's no Jews involved. And the 2024 election is over
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 09:56 AM
Nov 14

No more need for Genocide Joe and Killer Kamala now that Traitor won

Been saying from the beginning of all of this that the singular focus of the protests on I/P is bullshit if their true goal was highlighting the slaughter of innocents, starvation and genocide with US complicity.

EdmondDantes_

(1,248 posts)
37. What makes anything get the spotlight?
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 03:10 PM
Nov 14

South Africa's government didn't start to suck when the anti-apartheid movement sprang up. What made the death of George Floyd cause mass protests instead of a similar black man before or after him? There's a different situation now. More issues at home, we've generally ignored issues in Africa, our lesser direct involvement on one, the impact of slavery and European colonization of Africa making our understanding of Africa being a backwards place, etc. There's also the time duration with the issue in Sudan having started much more recently in 2023 rather than having been an issue for decades.

There's also the lack of a local opposition. You can find plenty of people in the US who are openly on the side of an expansionist Israel. You don't have any groups openly supporting the RSF killing kids and commiting mass sexual assault. And yes that you have idiots supporting Hamas doing those things is part of why there's support for an expansionist Israel because nobody should be on the receiving end of war crimes and Hamas is committed to committing them. But having an opposing side makes it easier to make a coalition. Nobody is defending what the RSF, so it's harder to protest, it's just the default. We've even imposed sanctions on leaders in the war. We haven't done that to Israeli leaders. Could we do more? Of course, but the reality complicates the narrative you're portraying.

Also if your defense of a situation is "someone else is doing worse", you've lost the point that human rights aren't a race to just be better by degree than at least one other situation and you're good. By your logic, I don't care about people starving anywhere because I work on feeding people in my local community even though there are doubtless more people more at risk of starvation or malnutrition elsewhere. Possibly even I'm racist since obviously there are more black people starving in Africa than in my state, and what possible reason could there be other than racism since racism exists. What about you? How many posts have you made about the Uyghurs? If it's less than about the Israel Hamas war should we not so subtly suggest it's that you have something against the Uyghurs?

enid602

(9,599 posts)
53. Why won't pro-Palestinian protesters turn their attention to Darfur?
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 04:45 PM
Nov 14

Why won’t Israeli cheerleaders admit the war crimes that unfortunately will define their legacy in the future?

jaymac

(160 posts)
54. Because
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 04:47 PM
Nov 14

it's not about the slaughter or genocide in Gaza............it's something else....think

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walkingman

(10,219 posts)
57. Why? Because Sudan does not get the media, political, or religious focus
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 05:18 PM
Nov 14

than the Israeli/Palestinian war does. Also, Sudan has not been a player in US Foreign Policy or a US ally. And probably the most significant reason is the issue was never a topic in the recent Presidential election.

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