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Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 01:06 PM Nov 2025

Trump - I would love DOJ to release the Epstein files, but it can't

It is so apparent to me what Trump is trying to do. By ordering an investigation by DOJ of Clinton et al. he is causing an investigation to be opened and during investigations it has always been DOJ policy not to release information to the public for any reason. It doesn't matter who or what DOJ investigates or what they find or don't find as long as there is an "open investigation".

This way, even if Congress votes by a veto proof majority for DOJ to release the files there is a legal pretext for Trump to veto the bill and for DOJ to refuse to obey it. It also gives Congress some cover for refusing to vote to release the files. Obviously, this was the result of a desperation scrum by Trump's lawyers.

On edit: The question I have is why doesn't the press see this obvious tactic for what it is, a bullshit scheme?

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Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
4. Trouble with Trump's scheme to create an "open investigation"
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 01:22 PM
Nov 2025

is that back in June DOJ wrote a letter formally closing their investigation and saying there was no evidence of third parties being involved in the crimes of Epstein/Maxwell.

marble falls

(71,919 posts)
6. The trouble is now that the worms are starting to fall out of the can, he'll never be able to repack them ...
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 01:25 PM
Nov 2025

... and more and more will fall out. I think this is even bigger than we think!

Frasier Balzov

(5,060 posts)
3. So the drumbeat will be winding down?
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 01:20 PM
Nov 2025

The blue wave is still building.

Flipping Congress to Democratic Party control will become an inevitability.

I'm confident that this does not and should not depend on Trump's Epstein connection.

Trump will continue to piss off voters in all his reprehensibly Trumpian ways.

Let no Republican run unopposed.



MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
7. If he wants the Epstein files released,
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 01:26 PM
Nov 2025

then why did he desperately try to dissuade Mace and Boebert from signing the discharge petition?

The man just can't help himself from lying.

gab13by13

(32,318 posts)
9. He fucking campaigned on releasing the files, he promised to release them
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 01:33 PM
Nov 2025

Pam Bondi had a photo-op on the steps of Congress with fake big thick pages that she said was the Epstein files.

mwmisses4289

(4,177 posts)
11. Would she do it if somebody points out to her
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 02:16 PM
Nov 2025

that participating in cover up in any way shape or form is illegal?
In one of my posts before this dump of 20,000+ documents came out, I said I didn't think he'd become enough of a liability to the shadowy powers that are really running our government. Well, now he has. So how will this play out?

Jersey Devil

(10,833 posts)
13. I don't think it will work because Bondi was supposedly ready to release the files early this year
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 02:22 PM
Nov 2025

while the "investigation" was pending. She formally closed the Epstein case in May or June, way after she said the files were on her desk and waiting to be reviewed and the WH and DOJ made their fake showing of the "files" in their nice white binders (which turned out to be info previously made public).

But apparently this is the best scheme Trump's brilliant legal talent has been able to come up with (so far).

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
12. The past year has shown that almost all of American mainstream media is fascist friendly.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 02:17 PM
Nov 2025

We can't look to them to get us out of the problem they helped create.

yellow dahlia

(5,866 posts)
14. The issue came up on MSNBC/Nicolle just now.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 06:52 PM
Nov 2025

She had Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord talking about it.



yellow dahlia

(5,866 posts)
16. Basically that it is a subverting of the DOJ.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 07:05 PM
Nov 2025

Pam Bondi has appointed a prosecutor to look into the Dems who interacted w/ Epstein, as instructed by the grifter. I'm not sure which of them specifically - Clinton, Reid Hoffmann?

You will probably be able to find the segment online, on MSNBC or on YouTube.

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