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malaise

(296,097 posts)
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 04:53 PM Nov 2025

"You see, I know how dirty Donald is," - Bestie Jeffrey

Nicely done OZ ABC
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-15/epsteins-emails-shed-light-on-his-preoccupation-with-trump/106010802

"You see, I know how dirty Donald is," he wrote on August 23, 2018.

The subject line of the email referenced a New York Times opinion piece about a case in which Trump's longtime fixer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to campaign financing violations.

The note was sent to Kathryn Ruemmler, a former White House counsel under former president Barack Obama.

But it has now been released to the public by a US congressional committee in a deluge of emails and other messages, totalling some 20,000 pages, after a months-long stand-off in Congress.




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"You see, I know how dirty Donald is," - Bestie Jeffrey (Original Post) malaise Nov 2025 OP
Maybe this administration realizes that they can no longer hide what has been hidden? CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2025 #1
They sure can't bury this one malaise Nov 2025 #3
"Flooding the zone," as one of Rump's brain trust once put it. Buns_of_Fire Nov 2025 #6
TickTock Joinfortmill Nov 2025 #2
Cluck cluck malaise Nov 2025 #4
"Not one decent cell in his body." Kid Berwyn Nov 2025 #5
It's true malaise Nov 2025 #7
Unfortunately with the reputation of Epstein, the fact that what he says here barely qualifies as hyperbole AZJonnie Nov 2025 #10
don't be silly thebigidea Nov 2025 #11
Shocked and hurt, he eventually un-alived himself leftstreet Nov 2025 #8
K&R spanone Nov 2025 #9
Good morning! canetoad Nov 2025 #12
Good rant malaise Nov 2025 #13

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,619 posts)
1. Maybe this administration realizes that they can no longer hide what has been hidden?
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 04:57 PM
Nov 2025

So all that stuff has been released. Perhaps they hope to swamp us with so much shit that we won't see the stuff that's true.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
6. "Flooding the zone," as one of Rump's brain trust once put it.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 05:30 PM
Nov 2025

Okay, the zone is now flooded. The job now is to keep an eye out for the big chunks.

AZJonnie

(3,706 posts)
10. Unfortunately with the reputation of Epstein, the fact that what he says here barely qualifies as hyperbole
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 06:37 PM
Nov 2025

it is still politically unhelpful to our side. The more Epstein makes what are basically just personal attacks in these emails, the more it helps TSF politically. UNLESS Epstein brings the receipts, or mentions Trump in the context of his victims. Otherwise the "spin" will be "horrible man says Trump is a horrible person, this means Trump is good". And/or "Epstein never makes any sexual allegations about Trump, which if he was guilty of such things, Epstein would have made because he hated Trump so much".

Never mind the fact that if Epstein DID make such allegations, it would incriminate Epstein as well, so that's a reason why he would not do so. Trump has the bully pulpit and a pathetic lapdog media, so obvious explanations for the lack thereof like this will end up minimized.

And despite the temptation, there's really not reason to think he's talking about Trumps sexual proclivities in this particular context, he's talking about what a dirty cheat and liar Donald Trump is, financially and otherwise.

thebigidea

(13,577 posts)
11. don't be silly
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 06:41 PM
Nov 2025
The more Epstein makes what are basically just personal attacks in these emails, the more it helps TSF politically. UNLESS Epstein brings the receipts, or mentions Trump in the context of his victims. Otherwise the "spin" will be "horrible man says Trump is a horrible person, this means Trump is good". And/or "Epstein never makes any sexual allegations about Trump, which if he was guilty of such things, Epstein would have made because he hated Trump so much".


That would be the spin even if there were "receipts" or mentions of Trump in the context of his victims.

It's been a decade. They are shameless.

canetoad

(20,769 posts)
12. Good morning!
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 07:13 PM
Nov 2025

Here's something that's bothering me about trump & Epstein.

The so-called 'break-up' of the friendship supposedly happened 2005 or 2006. The supposed reason is either Epstein 'poaching' staff from Mar a Lago or a dispute over purchasing a property. Which is it?

I think tsf married malaria around 2005, Did Epstein hit on her? Neither of the above reasons seem heinous enough for two extremely rich bros to cut off a mutually beneficial friendship. Maybe the breakup was a sham and they let the friendship fly under the radar for a while.

I just don't know but am sure of one thing; we know nothing near the truth.

Morning rant over. Now I must vac the floors. Sigh.

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