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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"You see, I know how dirty Donald is," - Bestie Jeffrey
Nicely done OZ ABC
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-15/epsteins-emails-shed-light-on-his-preoccupation-with-trump/106010802
"You see, I know how dirty Donald is," he wrote on August 23, 2018.
The subject line of the email referenced a New York Times opinion piece about a case in which Trump's longtime fixer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to campaign financing violations.
The note was sent to Kathryn Ruemmler, a former White House counsel under former president Barack Obama.
But it has now been released to the public by a US congressional committee in a deluge of emails and other messages, totalling some 20,000 pages, after a months-long stand-off in Congress.
CaliforniaPeggy
(156,619 posts)So all that stuff has been released. Perhaps they hope to swamp us with so much shit that we won't see the stuff that's true.
malaise
(296,097 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(19,161 posts)Okay, the zone is now flooded. The job now is to keep an eye out for the big chunks.
Joinfortmill
(21,162 posts)malaise
(296,097 posts)Only yuh friends know yuh secrets - Marley😀😂
Kid Berwyn
(24,393 posts)-- Jeffrey Epstein on Donald J Trump.
(And it shows).
malaise
(296,097 posts)Not one redeeming quality.
AZJonnie
(3,706 posts)it is still politically unhelpful to our side. The more Epstein makes what are basically just personal attacks in these emails, the more it helps TSF politically. UNLESS Epstein brings the receipts, or mentions Trump in the context of his victims. Otherwise the "spin" will be "horrible man says Trump is a horrible person, this means Trump is good". And/or "Epstein never makes any sexual allegations about Trump, which if he was guilty of such things, Epstein would have made because he hated Trump so much".
Never mind the fact that if Epstein DID make such allegations, it would incriminate Epstein as well, so that's a reason why he would not do so. Trump has the bully pulpit and a pathetic lapdog media, so obvious explanations for the lack thereof like this will end up minimized.
And despite the temptation, there's really not reason to think he's talking about Trumps sexual proclivities in this particular context, he's talking about what a dirty cheat and liar Donald Trump is, financially and otherwise.
thebigidea
(13,577 posts)That would be the spin even if there were "receipts" or mentions of Trump in the context of his victims.
It's been a decade. They are shameless.
leftstreet
(40,675 posts)yep
canetoad
(20,769 posts)Here's something that's bothering me about trump & Epstein.
The so-called 'break-up' of the friendship supposedly happened 2005 or 2006. The supposed reason is either Epstein 'poaching' staff from Mar a Lago or a dispute over purchasing a property. Which is it?
I think tsf married malaria around 2005, Did Epstein hit on her? Neither of the above reasons seem heinous enough for two extremely rich bros to cut off a mutually beneficial friendship. Maybe the breakup was a sham and they let the friendship fly under the radar for a while.
I just don't know but am sure of one thing; we know nothing near the truth.
Morning rant over. Now I must vac the floors. Sigh.
malaise
(296,097 posts)Lots of questions.