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riversedge

(80,805 posts)
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 08:38 PM Nov 2025

The thing that has always seemed strange about the Trump

shooting is that no one seems scared that they too might get a bullet.
Maybe a few. But if I were sitting there, I would be on the ground or as low as I could get.
It is just a mystery to me on one seemed afraid.


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The thing that has always seemed strange about the Trump (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2025 OP
100% positive it was staged. Ear cartilage does not heal. Autumn Nov 2025 #1
Really? Ms. Toad Nov 2025 #8
I would wonder MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2025 #18
I was responding to someone who said, without qualification as to age or anything else, Ms. Toad Nov 2025 #24
I think it can be inferred that the poster was referring to geriatic adult ear cartilage Orrex Nov 2025 #32
Healing is not the same as growing back. Ms. Toad Nov 2025 #38
Do you believe that he was shot? Yes or no? Orrex Nov 2025 #39
I believe he was hit in the ear with something. Ms. Toad Nov 2025 #41
**deleted for unjustifiably rude tone** Orrex Nov 2025 #40
. The Kotex ear band aid he wore for 2 days did nothing to heal his ear. Autumn Nov 2025 #30
Really. Adult cartilage does not have a natural ability to heal or regenerate on its own Autumn Nov 2025 #29
I thought that, too. Lots of gun fire and most just sat there. rsdsharp Nov 2025 #2
Most of it totally bogus. IMO republianmushroom Nov 2025 #3
A guy died. Anyone who wants to say it was staged can explain their take on that part in detail, please. RockRaven Nov 2025 #4
And conversely. Permanut Nov 2025 #6
Because Trump is always so forthcoming with medical records? Nonsense. Maru Kitteh Nov 2025 #11
Medical records can be voluntarily released.. Permanut Nov 2025 #12
Exactly. Even Biden, just a week before, said he would not release his neurological report. John1956PA Nov 2025 #14
Well.... Cirsium Nov 2025 #28
He was the patsy buzzycrumbhunger Nov 2025 #10
He's dead, he tried to shoot his former hero . He was a lousy shot. Trump crew hasn't released any information. Autumn Nov 2025 #31
I think the shooter was told he would be paid to shoot above the crowd. He muffed the shot. travelingthrulife Nov 2025 #35
Kooky CT nonsense Fiendish Thingy Nov 2025 #5
Where was it claimed that the man in the stands was a crisis actor? Permanut Nov 2025 #13
It was claimed the shooting was "staged" Fiendish Thingy Nov 2025 #19
It's only moderately more ridiculous than daily attempts to make the case Trump has no power. BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #23
I did NOT say the assassination attempt was staged!! Nor do I believe it was!! riversedge Nov 2025 #25
Just asking questions, amirite? Fiendish Thingy Nov 2025 #33
It's also strange MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2025 #7
You are really stretching it IMO. Disaffected Nov 2025 #9
Trump is a vicious mob boss. He is capable of all of this. travelingthrulife Nov 2025 #36
I put it down to 'slow reaction time'.... and on a scale of 1-10 being staged, I say "0" Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #15
Trumpsters brag that God saved him by redirecting the bullet... to kill a retired firefighter. Norrrm Nov 2025 #16
In the video intro still canetoad Nov 2025 #17
Kinda looks like he's got a Jimmy Durante nose too MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2025 #20
I don't think it's plausible to keep a conspiracy involving hundreds of people quiet. meadowlander Nov 2025 #21
Not saying hundreds but... Hope22 Nov 2025 #26
I'm not sure what I believe about this anymore. BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #22
I found it odd that the Secret Service allowed him to pop... 3catwoman3 Nov 2025 #27
This was a hoax. OLDMDDEM Nov 2025 #34
Cartilage was not necessarily damaged. I have had squamous cells removed from my upper ear area. dameatball Nov 2025 #37

Ms. Toad

(38,635 posts)
8. Really?
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 09:04 PM
Nov 2025

Funny how my daughter doesn't still have a gash in her ear from her cartilage year when she was 4. My recollection is that it took 1-2 weeks to heal.

And I'm sure the injured and dead people were in on the staging.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,507 posts)
18. I would wonder
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 12:04 AM
Nov 2025

about the healing capacity of a four year old child compared to an almost 80 year old.

Ms. Toad

(38,635 posts)
24. I was responding to someone who said, without qualification as to age or anything else,
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 12:42 AM
Nov 2025

that ear cartilage does not heal. That is nonsense.

Orrex

(67,111 posts)
32. I think it can be inferred that the poster was referring to geriatic adult ear cartilage
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:07 AM
Nov 2025

Rather than referring to all cartilage in all ears of all ages under all conditions. Nothing is served in open discussion by hyper-focusing on minute literalism.

A better comparison than your daughter would be the very healthy Evander Holyfield, whose ear hasn't grown back after 27 years, versus the sedentary cheeseburger addict whose ear grew back without a scar in under a week.

Ms. Toad

(38,635 posts)
38. Healing is not the same as growing back.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 02:02 PM
Nov 2025

Had the post I responded to said growing back, I wouldn't have said anything (on that point, at least).

We aren't salamanders. We don't grow back body parts (aside from the liver). Not my daughter. Not Evander Holyfield. Not Trump.

But that wasn't the claim. It was that cartilage does not heal.

None of us has examined his ear up close, nor do we have a report as to the extent of the original damage. A minor cartilage tear does not take that long to heal. There is probably a scar - but from how quickly it healed, it is safe to assume the damage was much less than Trump wanted us to believe. I doubt the scar would be visible from a distance - my daughter's certainly isn't.

But to suggest that it was all a fake is as insensitive to those killed it injured as it was when the Republicans suggested Sandy Hook was all crisis actors.

Ms. Toad

(38,635 posts)
41. I believe he was hit in the ear with something.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:01 PM
Nov 2025

Whether it was a bullet graze, or debris kicked up by the bullet - no opinion. Bullets and debris were flying - and either one could have caused a superficial wound (including tearing the cartilage), with the bleeding we saw.

There was a gunman. The folks injured and killed by the bullets from that gunman were actually injured and killed.

Even given Trump's continuous lies, it is a step into conspiracy-land to suggest that real people were injured and killed so he could pop a blood capsule and pretend to be hit.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
30. . The Kotex ear band aid he wore for 2 days did nothing to heal his ear.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:20 AM
Nov 2025

Because he wasn't shot. That bullet whizzed by him. He gave an interview a couple of days later and his ear was fine. No injury. No discoloration, no bruising . Nothing. Medical science says that adult cartilage does not have a natural ability to heal or regenerate on its own. End of story. Military doctors are good but not that damn good.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
29. Really. Adult cartilage does not have a natural ability to heal or regenerate on its own
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:13 AM
Nov 2025

because it lacks a blood supply. Two fucking days later there was not one fucking mark on his pristine ear.
Medical science.

rsdsharp

(12,002 posts)
2. I thought that, too. Lots of gun fire and most just sat there.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 08:45 PM
Nov 2025

The people who were shot were not sitting behind Trump, however. They were sitting in stands to the left and right of the stage. The guy who was killed was to Trump’s right front — closest to, and with his back towards the shooter. The other two were to Trump’s left.

RockRaven

(19,365 posts)
4. A guy died. Anyone who wants to say it was staged can explain their take on that part in detail, please.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 08:48 PM
Nov 2025

Exactly what happened with respect to the dead guy? Not really dead? Dead but not really shot? Really shot and really dead but by someone else? Really shot and really dead and by the purported shooter but for some reason other than mere accident/collateral damage? What's the deal?

Permanut

(8,390 posts)
6. And conversely.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 08:58 PM
Nov 2025

anyone who claims that it was an assassination attempt should be able to back up that claim with medical records, including photos and statements from the medical staff.

Maru Kitteh

(31,759 posts)
11. Because Trump is always so forthcoming with medical records? Nonsense.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:27 PM
Nov 2025

Medical records are protected. Explain the dead man.

Permanut

(8,390 posts)
12. Medical records can be voluntarily released..
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:43 PM
Nov 2025

Gosh, I wonder why he's not doing that.

A lot of people have died because of Trump. This is just another one.

My personal unsupported opinion is that the casualties were inflicted to demonstrate that this was a "real" assassination attempt.

John1956PA

(4,964 posts)
14. Exactly. Even Biden, just a week before, said he would not release his neurological report.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:46 PM
Nov 2025

Then-President Biden stated that no matter how many records of his neurological tests he might release, there would always be a cabal of critics clamoring for more records of a higher detailed nature, and also questioning why more tests were not conducted. President Biden wisely indicated that he was not going to feed the trolls.

Cirsium

(3,942 posts)
28. Well....
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 02:26 AM
Nov 2025

Killing a bystander would make a fake assassination attempt more credible. You could shut down any speculation just by saying "oh yeah? Explain the dead guy!"

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,931 posts)
10. He was the patsy
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 09:45 PM
Nov 2025

They set him up to make a credible villain. Obviously, they planned to take him out so he couldn’t screw up the story.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
31. He's dead, he tried to shoot his former hero . He was a lousy shot. Trump crew hasn't released any information.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:26 AM
Nov 2025

as to how they got him I don't even care . Might want to check his families bank account. Just for shits and giggles. Personally I think if Trump had been wounded he would have sold videos of his medical care and how much he suffered and overcame his injuries. He would have awarded himself a purple heart.

travelingthrulife

(5,179 posts)
35. I think the shooter was told he would be paid to shoot above the crowd. He muffed the shot.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 11:15 AM
Nov 2025

He killed that man accidentally, and, probably as planned, they shot the shooter. Problem solved.

Funny how we never hear word one about the victim or the shooter.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,219 posts)
5. Kooky CT nonsense
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 08:54 PM
Nov 2025

Do you believe the man in the stands who died was a crisis actor?

Was the shooter not killed?

Two people died and another was wounded in order to “stage” an assassination attempt to give Trump a boost in the polls?

The gullibility and lack of critical thinking sometimes astounds me - I’m sure this will get 100+ recs, like most CT’s do here.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,219 posts)
19. It was claimed the shooting was "staged"
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 12:17 AM
Nov 2025

Was just Trump’s shooting staged, or were the other three casualties that day also staged?

If the others weren’t staged, then that means whoever planned the staged shooting of Trump knew that, except for Trump’s fake shooting the area would become a live fire zone, and didn’t care who was hurt or killed.

And that the 5/10/20 people involved with the plot knew of these potential consequences, were OK with it, and everyone involved maintained complete secrecy

This from the same crew that communicates war plans via non-secure phone apps.

Last but not least, was Trump in on the plan?

Do you see how ridiculous that sounds?

BannonsLiver

(20,589 posts)
23. It's only moderately more ridiculous than daily attempts to make the case Trump has no power.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 12:35 AM
Nov 2025

That is really really ludicrous, kooky, BSC etc. but yet, I’ve seen it done.

riversedge

(80,805 posts)
25. I did NOT say the assassination attempt was staged!! Nor do I believe it was!!
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 01:03 AM
Nov 2025

I merely said it was odd that people were not ducking for cover when bullets were flying!!

Fiendish Thingy

(23,219 posts)
33. Just asking questions, amirite?
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:24 AM
Nov 2025

The tweet you reposted specifically, directly asks the question “on a scale of 1-10, how many of you think this was staged?” Why post that if you don’t believe it? Why not post a YouTube video of the raw footage without the CT nonsense?

Even if you don’t believe the shooting was staged, clearly many of the respondents to your OP do, and they have used your OP to spread their CT nonsense.

The lack of a shared reality in this post-truth era is as dangerous to democracy as any of Trump’s atrocities (see the quote in my signature line).

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,507 posts)
7. It's also strange
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 08:59 PM
Nov 2025

how his ear miraculously healed! Completely! With no scarring! No chunk taken out, no scalp damage!

It was a bogus photo op.

Disaffected

(6,399 posts)
9. You are really stretching it IMO.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 09:40 PM
Nov 2025

For one, his ear damage was superficial and may not have involved ear cartilage at all (the ear is not all cartilage, especially the ear lobe).

Are you familiar with the term "frozen with fear". Things happened very quickly - sudden shock sometimes takes a while to dissipate.

Do you think something "staged" would actually involve firing a bullet v close to Trump's head and with spectators in the background likely to be hit?

And did someone in on the plot then shoot the shooter, all w/o being detected?

The first thing to keep in mind about conspiracy theories is that they are almost always wrong...

Jack Valentino

(5,011 posts)
15. I put it down to 'slow reaction time'.... and on a scale of 1-10 being staged, I say "0"
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 11:01 PM
Nov 2025

However, on the question of whether Thomas Crooks was a 'prophet',
I give him a "10" !

Norrrm

(5,047 posts)
16. Trumpsters brag that God saved him by redirecting the bullet... to kill a retired firefighter.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 11:26 PM
Nov 2025

meadowlander

(5,133 posts)
21. I don't think it's plausible to keep a conspiracy involving hundreds of people quiet.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 12:28 AM
Nov 2025

The simpler explanation to me would be they were in shock or hadn't realised what was happening yet.

BannonsLiver

(20,589 posts)
22. I'm not sure what I believe about this anymore.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 12:31 AM
Nov 2025

But if people don’t think he’s capable of something like what the op is talking about then they are out of their minds.

3catwoman3

(29,403 posts)
27. I found it odd that the Secret Service allowed him to pop...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 01:36 AM
Nov 2025

…right up and give his raised fist salute. Once they’d put him down on the ground, wouldn’t they want to keep him there while assessing what was going on?

dameatball

(7,669 posts)
37. Cartilage was not necessarily damaged. I have had squamous cells removed from my upper ear area.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 12:39 PM
Nov 2025

The incision bleeds like hell but heals up pretty quickly. If the victim happens to be on some type of blood thinner the bleeding would be even more profuse initially. I actually have a flattened area above my right ear where the skin and meager tissue was cut out but the cartilage was not removed. They just tightened everything up around the cartilage and sewed it up.

In the video. Trump did make a swat at his ear prior to being tackled. I don't think that was staged as his reaction times are not that good to have been scripted. Hell, the dumbass would probably have grabbed the wrong ear if it was staged.

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