USA Today, Shut Down Poll: Everything that is wrong with the Media

[edhopper]

Which party do Americans think won government shutdown negotiations? Republicans, new poll says

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/which-party-do-americans-think-won-government-shutdown-negotiations-republicans-new-poll-says/ar-AA1QxVrb

Okay, the Party that held all the cards got the most. Is that what this is about? Is it a sports event? Do they ask what Americans think about what the Republicans are doing to Social Programs and Healthcare? Are they asking if they want the GOP to win this confrontation? No they just want to portray the Repukes as winners and the Dems as losers.

Disgusting.

[Walleye]

1. Well, dammit not everything is a ball game

I wish they would just quit trying to keep score. What good does that do. And I think people lie on polls

[rso]

2. Poll

And yet, Trump’s favorability is lower now than when the shutdown started.

[markodochartaigh]

3. I think that the real issue is did

the people of the US win, or not.

[Happy Hoosier]

4. Is this surprising?

When the Diabolical 8 decided to cave, this was in the cards. Lots of us said it. We said this will be seen as capitulation and a Democratic loss. And it is. We can "yeah, but" the issue all we like, but in politics, perception is reality, and our inability to understand that is to our detriment and it's why people like Schumer have to go. He doesn't understand it either.

So, the best we can do now is take the "L" and try to make a silk purse from a sow's ear.

[Silent Type]

5. Polls are always chit when they don't yield results we want.

[edhopper]

6. Not the point at all

I don't see the poll getting bad results, the GOP won when the 8 caved.
The point is, is this the issue? Who "won" the shutdown. Or should the media, maybe, just maybe, focus on the results of the shut down on the American people.
Was the main issues that the Nazis "won" in 1932, or the Khmer Rouge "won" in 1975, was that the important story?

[Silent Type]

7. Media I watch were interviewing people who were hungry, worried about subsidies, etc. The 8 who caved were

selected by party leadership because they weren't up for reelection next year. Plenty of other Dems were ready for shutdown to end too.

[edhopper]

11. So you don't watch

the Main Stream Media that most in this country do?

[progressoid]

8. Most of DU thinks the Dems lost the shut down too

Seems like the vast majority of the posts were about how we "caved" etc.

[edhopper]

9. Do you think

it might be just a little important for the media to talk about what this win/lost means to America?
Or is who won the only thing worth talking about.

[progressoid]

14. I'm probably not a good person to ask.

I despise the media on the whole. They are a huge part of the problem we are in.

I also thought as the shut down dragged on, this would be a lose/lose scenario for our side. If we reach a "deal," we lose because it would mean losing leverage/caving on ACA etc. But if we keep the govt shut down going, we lose because we start to lose support from the public that relies on gov aid and the ancillary programs that keep America running.

[edhopper]

15. You are right

[Ping Tung]

10. YAY! GOAL!!

There are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Mark Twain

[durablend]

12. So tell me

Do they ask what Americans think about what the Republicans are doing to Social Programs and Healthcare?

We caved in and got nothing basically out of that but we're supposed to come out the winners?

[edhopper]

16. No

It's not about who won, it's about what it means to Americans.
I am not complaining about them saying Dems lost, I am complaining that they are only talking about win/lost like it's a baseball game.

[Redleg]

13. To the media it is a horse race- to the rest of us it is more about the stakes

America lost the shutdown.

[edhopper]

17. Yep