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CentralMass

(16,971 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 05:44 PM Nov 2025

Elon Musk Warns 'The Only Way to Get Us Out of the Debt Crisis' and 'Prevent America from Going Bankrupt is AI and Robot

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"In a wide-ranging conversation on the Joe Rogan Experience, Tesla (TSLA) and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk offered a characteristically direct assessment of the United States’ fiscal trajectory. Known for speaking bluntly about technology, governance, and long-term societal risks, Musk framed the national debt not merely as a political challenge, but as a structural threat to the country’s economic future. His remarks reflect longstanding concerns he has raised about government inefficiency, declining industrial productivity, and the need for technological acceleration to maintain global competitiveness.
During the discussion, Musk argued that “the only way to get us out of the debt crisis and prevent America from going bankrupt is AI and robotics,” a conclusion he reached after observing what he described as unsustainable growth in federal obligations. He noted that interest payments on the national debt now exceed major federal expenditures, including the military budget — a comparison he called a personal “wake-up call.”
According to Musk, traditional political tools are insufficient: “You can make it directionally better, but ultimately you can’t fully fix the system… there’s no way to solve the debt crisis” without economic expansion at a scale only advanced automation could provide.:
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Elon Musk Warns 'The Only Way to Get Us Out of the Debt Crisis' and 'Prevent America from Going Bankrupt is AI and Robot (Original Post) CentralMass Nov 2025 OP
I thought his DOGE crap was supposed to save us leftstreet Nov 2025 #1
Another BSer trying to sell us AI newdeal2 Nov 2025 #2
The jobs are disappearing as we speak. CentralMass Nov 2025 #3
Can you cite a source here? I'm asking sincerely. Iris Nov 2025 #34
That's one of the reasons why we are here.................... Lovie777 Nov 2025 #4
A bond villian in the making. CentralMass Nov 2025 #6
I would say the making is complete misanthrope Nov 2025 #25
Tax the rich yankee87 Nov 2025 #5
50% Would Do ProfessorGAC Nov 2025 #20
We need a progressive wealth tax that addresses systemic abuses and prevents the existence of billionaires, period. Moostache Nov 2025 #30
FFS! 2naSalit Nov 2025 #7
Says the tax dodger who just demanded 1 trillion dollars and is actively undermining Democracy. Fuck That Guy! chowder66 Nov 2025 #8
Hey Elon, with your trillions, you could do some good. Paper Roses Nov 2025 #9
That idiot is so full of shit it's a pathetic. Autumn Nov 2025 #10
I wouldn't trust ONE WORD out of this motherfucker's fucking mouth Blue Owl Nov 2025 #11
Nationalizing Eloon's loot would help /nt bucolic_frolic Nov 2025 #12
Just what I was thinking when I read the OP. Ellipsis Nov 2025 #23
"They say the working class is dead, we're all consumers now." sop Nov 2025 #13
How about real intelligence instead of the artificial kind? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2025 #14
Well, of COURSE the solution is NOT to tax the shit out of the wealthiest Americans, bless your hearts! AZJonnie Nov 2025 #15
Tax Elon to mars and back Blues Heron Nov 2025 #16
Nazi asshole needs to overdose dalton99a Nov 2025 #17
THIS is the latest fever dream...... Red Mountain Nov 2025 #18
Not just migrants misanthrope Nov 2025 #26
I have a better idea. Let TAX HIM. Volaris Nov 2025 #19
Yes, eliminating 10s of millions of jobs forever (with shitty AI) is the path to prosperity . . . hatrack Nov 2025 #21
I believe there is no stopping AI Melon Nov 2025 #22
Elon Musk is a threat to humanity misanthrope Nov 2025 #24
Seriously, there was a time when half a trillion dollars was considered James Bond supervillain money. Initech Nov 2025 #38
Says the clown that built up his businesses on Klarkashton Nov 2025 #27
Go try that on Mars asshole dweller Nov 2025 #28
Wodrld wide AI and robotics will result in hundreds of millions of jobs being lost, and markets collapsing. patphil Nov 2025 #29
How do you get this massive economic expansion with 50 million Americans unemployed from AI replacement? NickB79 Nov 2025 #31
... orangecrush Nov 2025 #32
I've got a better idea Eloon maxrandb Nov 2025 #33
Tax The Rich is another way. Iggo Nov 2025 #35
Robots ... area51 Nov 2025 #36
That's (universal income) not going to happen. CentralMass Nov 2025 #39
No, the way out of the national debt is to tell a guy who wants a trillion dollars to go fuck himself. Initech Nov 2025 #37
Funny that.... FormerOstrich Nov 2025 #40

Iris

(16,872 posts)
34. Can you cite a source here? I'm asking sincerely.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 11:14 PM
Nov 2025

I work in higher ed and no one knows how to even approach AI. I'm curious what fields are replacing workers with AI

Lovie777

(22,961 posts)
4. That's one of the reasons why we are here....................
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 05:50 PM
Nov 2025

another reason, don't fucking throw people off their jobs without a an alternative of how they are going to take care of families.

Musk got so much money and he doesn't still even care.

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
25. I would say the making is complete
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:25 PM
Nov 2025

So would those who suffered and died because he gutted USAID.

ProfessorGAC

(76,693 posts)
20. 50% Would Do
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:01 PM
Nov 2025

Besides when the rate was 91%, only a tiny percentage of people eligible for that tax rate actually paid 91%.
Make total compensation eligible to be taxed as regular wages, raise the dividend tax rate to 33% on money over $1 million, and add 39, 44, & 50% upper marginal rates on income. Again, total compensation to employment derived income of any form.
The 91% thing is typically misunderstood because how few people paid over 50% was is not discussed.

Moostache

(11,171 posts)
30. We need a progressive wealth tax that addresses systemic abuses and prevents the existence of billionaires, period.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:58 PM
Nov 2025

It should be so disadvantageous to possess more than $1,000,000,000.00 in NET assets that business owners and these current asshats would be falling all over themselves to avoid the taxes that kick in at that level. Further more, I would even support capital punishment for any billionaire caught cheating on their taxes. I would simply load them all onto Bezos' next dick shaped rocket and fire them into orbit without a return trip. Let them all off themselves in orbit.

chowder66

(12,240 posts)
8. Says the tax dodger who just demanded 1 trillion dollars and is actively undermining Democracy. Fuck That Guy!
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 05:55 PM
Nov 2025

Paper Roses

(7,632 posts)
9. Hey Elon, with your trillions, you could do some good.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 05:57 PM
Nov 2025

With all your money, most comes from the US, you could help the American people survive the mess you and trump have created.
You could finance healthcare for those who count on Medicare, support SNAP, and other critical situations this country is in.Your trillions could do so much for other parts of the world.
Remember, you can't take it with you! Might as well do some good after the mess you have created.

sop

(18,607 posts)
13. "They say the working class is dead, we're all consumers now."
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:22 PM
Nov 2025

'The Age of Self' - Robert Wyatt

They say the working class is dead, we're all consumers now
They say that we have moved ahead, we're all just people now
There's people doing 'frightfully well' there's others on the shelf
But never mind the second kind this is the age of self

They say we need new images to help our movement grow
They say that life is broader based as if we didn't know
While Martin J. and Robert M. play with printer's ink
The workers 'round the world still die for Rio Tinto Zinc

And it seems to me if we forget
Our roots and where we stand
The movement will disintegrate
Like castles built on sand

AZJonnie

(3,703 posts)
15. Well, of COURSE the solution is NOT to tax the shit out of the wealthiest Americans, bless your hearts!
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:29 PM
Nov 2025

No, obviously the only way is to assfuck poor/middle class people by automating all their jobs out of existence, and cutting the government benefits that keep them alive, some of which they actively paid into their whole lives.

Naturally!

Red Mountain

(2,342 posts)
18. THIS is the latest fever dream......
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:43 PM
Nov 2025

A. Robots will replace the migrants doing manual labor, working as health care aids, picking crops.....

B. Tesla will be ideally positioned to supply those robots


That's it. There's nothing more to it.

The robots won't be ready. And they'll be FAR too expensive.

But they'll bump up the stock price and keep the money rolling into Elon's pockets.


misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
26. Not just migrants
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:28 PM
Nov 2025

They will move on to scrubbing the world of all of us if they get their way.

hatrack

(64,878 posts)
21. Yes, eliminating 10s of millions of jobs forever (with shitty AI) is the path to prosperity . . .
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:07 PM
Nov 2025

People will be ready to spend, spend, spend!!!!

Why does anyone take this sack of steaming kudu shit seriously on any topic?

Melon

(1,525 posts)
22. I believe there is no stopping AI
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:17 PM
Nov 2025

Look at how far its come in the last 2 years. AI is now literally working to develop AI.
We are the horse and buggy laughing at the car at this point. The US can’t fall behind because Asia is developing AI and robot technologies full press.

I watched a tattoo artist interview a year ago saying he can never be replaced. How many think the same? A huge portion of tattoos are now AI drawn and the technology easily exists to develop machines to do the tattoo. Cost just needs to catch up to profit.

Initech

(108,772 posts)
38. Seriously, there was a time when half a trillion dollars was considered James Bond supervillain money.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 01:19 AM
Nov 2025


dweller

(28,408 posts)
28. Go try that on Mars asshole
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:33 PM
Nov 2025

And leave us alone … and tax the billionaires and trillionaires .

That will fix some of the mess you’ve created .




✌🏻

patphil

(9,065 posts)
29. Wodrld wide AI and robotics will result in hundreds of millions of jobs being lost, and markets collapsing.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:40 PM
Nov 2025

Where are the people who lose their jobs going to get the money to live on, let along money for non-essential goods and services? This will cause a ripple effect through the remaining economy, resulting in millions more being put out of work.
And we know governments aren't going to provide for the general welfare in an economy where there isn't anyone left to tax.
One of the first things to go away will be free, open and honest elections. The rich won't allow it.
All this could come to pass in 20-30 years.
If you don't think so, just look how much has changed in the past decade, and we're in the infancy of this whole labor revolution. It's picking up speed quickly.

NickB79

(20,354 posts)
31. How do you get this massive economic expansion with 50 million Americans unemployed from AI replacement?
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:04 PM
Nov 2025

You actually need, ya know, living breathing CONSUMERS to buy the goods and services that the AI and robotics revolution will produce.

Robots and AI don't buy new homes, cars, clothes, phones, washing machines, groceries, etc.

maxrandb

(17,425 posts)
33. I've got a better idea Eloon
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:47 PM
Nov 2025

How about we tax the ever-loving piss out of you, nationalize your little fucking rocket company, take away all your fucking government contracts and subsidies, send your ass to Mars, and you try your shit ideas there?

Hopefully, it won't be long before we can send Bozos, Fuckerberg, Donnie Dipshit, Peter Thiel and a shit-ton of other billionaire incels to join you.

area51

(12,690 posts)
36. Robots ...
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 01:11 AM
Nov 2025

like this one?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/k4sglbOSt4U

Also, we need a universal basic income in addition to Medicare for All for when jobs will be lost.

CentralMass

(16,971 posts)
39. That's (universal income) not going to happen.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 01:26 AM
Nov 2025

The black hearted bastards already trying to starve the poor and eliminate healthcare.

Initech

(108,772 posts)
37. No, the way out of the national debt is to tell a guy who wants a trillion dollars to go fuck himself.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 01:17 AM
Nov 2025

FormerOstrich

(2,888 posts)
40. Funny that....
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 01:50 AM
Nov 2025

I can only image what Rod Serling would think as we live in the twilight zone. At that time, smart appliances were considered a thing of horror. Little could he have known...

There is a Waymo car wash/detail station I drive by occasionally. During the summer, 115+ days in the Phoenix sun you witness driver-less cars queue up and a team of people laboring in the sun detailing the exterior of the car.

Now I am seeing DoorDash robots being followed around by a person on a bicycle wearing traffic vests....very much putting themselves between the robot vehicle and traffic.

Humans at service to the robots.

It seems to me that the jobs that SHOULD be turned over to AI are the CEO, COO, CFO, and other executive level positions. AI should be assuming those jobs not production jobs. Think of the cost reductions...no more golden parachutes, no more BONUSES, no more self-serving decision making. THOSE are the jobs that need to be turned over to AI...starting with MUSK!!

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