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IowaGuy

(788 posts)
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 08:21 PM Nov 2025

Will Trump pocket veto Epstein bill?

I just have a cynical feeling that Trump, Thune and Johnson have already conspired to have Trump not sign it for 10 days and then Congress will immediately adjourn, thereby killing it per pocket veto rules.

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Will Trump pocket veto Epstein bill? (Original Post) IowaGuy Nov 2025 OP
He'll try Metaphorical Nov 2025 #1
This does bring up a great point. johnnyfins Nov 2025 #3
I can't see them doing that. Not that they wouldn't, if they thought it would work unblock Nov 2025 #2
He can't in this case. A bill has to be signed within ten days after it's passed and sent to the president; Ocelot II Nov 2025 #4
He just signed it, so no MichMan Nov 2025 #5

Metaphorical

(2,634 posts)
1. He'll try
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 08:30 PM
Nov 2025

A pocket veto only works if there's a successful move to adjourn, and I have a feeling that may not be as easily achieved as Thune or Johnson would like to believe (and it is likely to only add more fuel to the fire with regard to Trump's illegalities).

johnnyfins

(3,768 posts)
3. This does bring up a great point.
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 08:37 PM
Nov 2025

Now that the house and senate have sent this to TSF, anything he does to impede the FULL release will make him look guilty as hell. This is not going away even if they do try a "limited hangout".

unblock

(56,198 posts)
2. I can't see them doing that. Not that they wouldn't, if they thought it would work
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 08:30 PM
Nov 2025

But it's too obvious a tactic, even republicans would react negatively to that.

Ocelot II

(130,533 posts)
4. He can't in this case. A bill has to be signed within ten days after it's passed and sent to the president;
Wed Nov 19, 2025, 08:45 PM
Nov 2025

if it isn't signed within ten days while Congress is in session it automatically becomes law. A pocket veto occurs when the president does not return the bill within ten days and Congress is no longer in session at that time, which would it mean it couldn't override the veto. "Not in session" doesn't mean a temporary recess; it means that Congress has adjourned from its regular session. Of course, the GOP leadership in both houses could move to adjourn, but that seems pretty unlikely, considering that the bill releasing the files was voted on unanimously.

The other thing that could happen is that Trump just doesn't sign it and lets it become law automatically in ten days so he doesn't have to suffer the humiliation of having to sign a bill that he can't veto successfully.

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