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bluestarone

(21,038 posts)
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:14 PM Nov 20

Just one quick question.

If TSF passed away tonight, would our nightmare be over, or still continue?

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hamsterjill

(16,903 posts)
2. I think it would still continue, but
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:24 PM
Nov 20

I also think it would be the beginning of the end of the MAGA movement. I do not think that Vance commands as much loyalty and utter stupidity as Trump does.

Just my two cents worth...

llmart

(17,290 posts)
7. And Vance wouldn't have the "goods" on a lot of them like trump probably does.
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:35 PM
Nov 20

So some of them wouldn't be afraid to not follow him blindly. In fact, I'll bet most of the more senior members of Congress can't stand him and may even have designs on undermining him. He really is pretty stupid too.

FHRRK

(1,349 posts)
12. Agree, mostly
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:48 PM
Nov 20

IMO, the die is cast for the repiggies. Has nothing to do with Trump, more to do with cable tv and radio.

Gingrich obnoxiousness turned into Palin, then Trump. Each getting more obnoxious and odorous.

It is fueled by Fox, Newsmax, OANN, who learned there is an obvious market for hate media.

The problem is the Repuke voters, so we will continue to see the worst of the worst getting airtime and support.

Earlier today I saw a post mentioning Alan Grayson, I appreciated him being fiery, but the act wore thin quickly. Dems like fighters, but is a fine line before you cross over into asshole territory and Dems don’t like assholes.

Note: before saying he wasn’t a blowhard, see quote below and think, who else would publicly make a similar claim.

On November 6, 2012, Grayson defeated Todd Long, 63–37%, to return to Congress after a one-term absence. He described his victory as "the biggest comeback in the history of the U.S. House of Representatives."[49] Although he ran in two different districts, Grayson claimed the House historian had told him that the shift from a 56–38% loss in 2010 to a 63–37% victory in 2012 was the biggest comeback in congressional history.


Silent Type

(12,372 posts)
4. I don't think there is anyone as wreckless as trump. Doesn't mean I'd trust Vance, but he doesn't have
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:28 PM
Nov 20

the cult following of trump.

bluestarone

(21,038 posts)
6. i think vance would never be in office long
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:34 PM
Nov 20

Maybe even start a revolt amongst rethugs. Then we could control both houses. THAT would make a big difference as well

llmart

(17,290 posts)
8. That's what I'm thinking also.
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:37 PM
Nov 20

There'd be a lot of infighting similar to when they fought over the speakership and had to keep revoting.

deRien

(316 posts)
5. I think it depends
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 08:30 PM
Nov 20

on who is left of the people that trump has installed... Project 2025 is still alive and well... the courts might be less of a mess...

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