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moniss

(9,056 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:10 AM Nov 2025

We would be wise to remember

the gut punch we felt when Ford pardoned Nixon, when the Iran-Contra people slithered away etc. because we may have that feeling again when the "release" or "non-release" or "heavily scrubbed and redacted release" happens or whatever is to come. We don't know exactly what is to come.

But the idea that the powerful and the evil will suddenly start playing it straight isn't a rational belief. If it's heavily screwed with I guess I can't be surprised.

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We would be wise to remember (Original Post) moniss Nov 2025 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Nov 2025 #1
yup Skittles Nov 2025 #2
The deck is stacked EYESORE 9001 Nov 2025 #3
Which are the two major things that confuse me. OldBaldy1701E Nov 2025 #7
I'll settle for Trump's natural deterioration if oasis Nov 2025 #4
Yeah, I remember when there was no "Fitzmas" Martin Eden Nov 2025 #5
Class consciousness is the only thing that will cure this disease. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2025 #6
he can't hide the photos w/ jeffrey. pansypoo53219 Nov 2025 #8

Response to moniss (Original post)

OldBaldy1701E

(11,142 posts)
7. Which are the two major things that confuse me.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:58 AM
Nov 2025

Why are we still at the table?

and...

Why are we allowing such a crocked table to continue to deal?

No one ever has an answer. At least, not one that makes any sense to me.

oasis

(53,692 posts)
4. I'll settle for Trump's natural deterioration if
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 08:11 AM
Nov 2025

need be. His mental state is crumbling right before our eyes, more and more as each day passes.
The despicable wretch will go out never getting the due credit he thinks he deserves for his “accomplishments”.

Martin Eden

(15,624 posts)
5. Yeah, I remember when there was no "Fitzmas"
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:05 AM
Nov 2025

Dick Cheney's chief of staff Scooter Libby was convicted of perjury, obstruction of justice, and making false statements to investigators in the scandal over leaking the identity of undercover CIA operative Valerie Plame, but this did not have major repercussions for the administration of GW Bush.

Bush commuted Libby's sentence in 2007, and Trump pardoned him in 2018. Valerie Plame was the wife of US ambassador Joe Wilson, who had written an article debunking the Bush administration's false claims that Iraq had purchased yellow cake uranium for a reconstituted nuclear weapons program. The unmasking of his wife's undercover CIA role was seen as a reprisal for Wilson's principled stand against the false justifications for invading Iraq.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,988 posts)
6. Class consciousness is the only thing that will cure this disease.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:54 AM
Nov 2025

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Once we finally figure out that there are waaaaay more of us than them, get together and act accordingly, we can put an end to this bullshit.

Until then, expect the rulers to continue to do anything they want.

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