Mrs. Betty Bowers explains in simple terms that even a child could understand.

[sheshe2]

The draft dodging idiot posted a pic of this West Point plaque. It contains these words:

“Our American Code of Military Obedience requires that, should orders and the law ever conflict, our officers must obey the law.”

That is precisely what Senator Mark Kelly told officers to do. #NoSedition

— Mrs. Betty Bowers (@mrsbettybowers.bsky.social) 2025-11-25T18:49:50.829Z

The draft dodging idiot posted a pic of this West Point plaque. It contains these words:

“Our American Code of Military Obedience requires that, should orders and the law ever conflict, our officers must obey the law.”

That is precisely what Senator Mark Kelly told officers to do. #NoSedition

[drray23]

1. It is because Trump thinks his word is law.

This reminds me of this famous quote attributed to Louis XIV, the French king, when he was challenged by his parliament -" L'etat c'est moi" (The state is me) Trump no doubt sees himself as a king.

[kairos12]

4. Trump thinks the same in

that he probably says I am the Burger King.

[calimary]

19. Trump thinks?

That pretty much stops me, right there.

[doc03]

2. Couldn't Trump claim since the SCOTUS gave him complete immunity.

for any official act, any order he gives is therefore lawful? Not saying I agree with that but
today's SCOTUS may actually agree with Trump.

[Zackzzzz]

3. I was just wondering what does Official Act and Immunity mean in today's world.

[dickthegrouch]

5. There is no definition - Here's a potential starter that I've floated several times without any traction

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219319695

[angrychair]

9. I did a deep dive on this yesterday

Obviously not a lawyer so I had to keep pulling threads the further I went into it.

The executive summary is that it's a shit sandwich.
Mango Mussolini has immunity from criminal conviction in the performance of his duties. Not anyone else.

So when it comes to refusing to follow orders you believe are illegal, it's always going to be something that will have to be worked out after the fact.
Example: I am your commander and order you to do thing x and you truly believe that order is illegal. I tell you it is legal because it came from our president. You say "no, it's illegal" I release you from your duties, likely go to the brig and face a general court martial hearing.
But the proof is completely on the (soldier, airman, sailor or marine) to prove their case as to why it's illegal.
If they are wrong, they could get kicked out of the military, demoted or jailed or all three

If they are right, it was illegal but do it anyway, then they could be put on trial for crimes against humanity later.

Like I said, shit sandwich.

[calimary]

20. Sure seems like a shit sandwich to me.

ANY way you slice it.

[Easterncedar]

7. Not that any order he gives is lawful, per se

The immunity means, I believe, only that he can’t be criminally prosecuted for giving an otherwise unlawful order, or for committing a crime if he is acting within the scope of his duties.

[FakeNoose]

11. Also he can never be sued by a private citizen (or group of citizens)

... if he acts as president in an official capacity. So no lawsuits and no prosecution, even when he might do something harmful or illegal. Sheesh!

[Trueblue Texan]

24. SCOTUS never gave immunity to members of the military or any other entity. nt

[doc03]

27. But how can it be an illegal order if the President can't give an illegal order. Like Nixon said

"When the president does it, that means it is not illegal." The SCOTUS confirmed Nixon's statement when it comes to Trump.

[Skittles]

6. moron

serious fucking moron

[William Seger]

8. This is some heavy duty gaslighting

He's presenting hard evidence that he's full of shit as if it's exoneration!

[Historic NY]

10. Shit for brains can't read.

[tanyev]

12. Their outrage proves that they know Trump has already issued illegal orders,

which were carried out instead of challenged. Now all they have to do is change the definition of legal to “whatever the Toddler in Chief wants”.

[sheshe2]

13. I think you summed it up perfectly.

[Martin Eden]

14. Did the orange shitstain REALLY post that?

The STOOPID, it hurts!

[jybarz]

15. Drumpf is an Illiterate Idiot!

It just proves Felon Pedo Conman Maggot Drumpf is an Illiterate Idiot!

[Cha]

16. Brava! That's Senator Kelly's

Senator Elissa Slotkin's, Rep. Jason Crow's, Rep. Maggie Goodlander's, Rep. Chris Deluzio's and Rep. Chrissy Houlahan's, Defense!

And I'm sure they Know That!

Mahalo for posting Mrs. Betty Bowers, she

[BidenRocks]

17. As Alfred E Neuman once said in National Lampoon

(As Lt. Calley)

What, My Lai?

https://www.reddit.com/r/PropagandaPosters/comments/1bvi9e2/what_my_lai_national_lampoon_cover_august_1971/

Half the country has no clue.

[Zackzzzz]

18. Thanks all for your response.

[Figarosmom]

21. I'm really beginning to believe trump can't read

Or needs glasses. Then too, he has comprehension problems, not understanding what he reads.

[sheshe2]

23. I agree with you on the comprehension problems.

It is getting worse with what little he has left for a brain. He didn't go in for his second 'annual' checkup for nothing.

[NoMoreRepugs]

22. Kind of amazing that the SlobFather actually gets more ignorant every day.

Somewhere there has to be a Biggest Idiot Ever trophy getting his name inscribed on it.

[Gary 50]

25. The supreme courts decision that Trump is immune from prosecution for crimes committed while president

is the worst decision ever made by the court. It gave free reign for the orange turd to do any evil his heart desires. I guess the court never heard this is supposed to be a country with no man above the law. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Pam Blondie has the plaque indicted for contradicting the orange shit stain.

[democrank]

26. Bottom line.....

All citizens, department heads, media owners, journalists, CEOs, members of the military, Congress, MUST be loyal to Trump. Not to the Constitution, not to our laws. Just loyal to Trump, or else……