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The 2 West Virginia National Guardsmen that were shot today in Washington D.C. has Died! (Original Post) ArnoldLayne Nov 2025 OP
Deaths at Trump's and Hegseth's fascist feet SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #1
Hope they get details on motive quickly. Silent Type Nov 2025 #2
terrible Skittles Nov 2025 #3
If they were not in D.C. they would not have been shot. Botany Nov 2025 #4
agree. jeffreyi Nov 2025 #10
There are no words... Grim Chieftain Nov 2025 #5
'serving the country'??? SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #7
How do you know when they signed up? Grim Chieftain Nov 2025 #11
That's irrelevant SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #12
My husband was a headquarters company commander in the National Guard Grim Chieftain Nov 2025 #15
I think your emotions are blinding you SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #17
Cool down there, yo roscoeroscoe Nov 2025 #31
They didn't sign up to be in DC supporting ICE. haele Nov 2025 #24
Irrelevant to what I typed SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #26
Killed by Trump. johnp3907 Nov 2025 #6
Pedonald in NOT responsible for their deaths, the shooter is, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #8
Of course Trump is responsible SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #13
No, the shooter is responsible for their deaths, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #14
Red State Troops go into Blue areas to fulfill Trump's fascist agenda SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #19
That still doesn't change the fact that the shooter is directly responsible. nt MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #20
If Trump (as some prominent dems have said) uses troops to interfere with the election SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #21
The law says different. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #22
lol the law SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #23
I don't want you to tell me a fricken thing, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #25
... TheBlackAdder Nov 2025 #9
All the guards are sent by red states, whether they like it or not yaesu Nov 2025 #16
This SamuelTheThird Nov 2025 #18
Wag the dog? pfitz59 Nov 2025 #27
Apparently, this is NOT true... regnaD kciN Nov 2025 #28
An update on the WBOY West Virigina station stated avebury Nov 2025 #29
The Republican Party is whack...... Lovie777 Nov 2025 #30
FDT Miami Blue Nov 2025 #32
you need to pull this, as they are still alive Celerity Nov 2025 #33

Botany

(77,323 posts)
4. If they were not in D.C. they would not have been shot.
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 04:57 PM
Nov 2025

Something about those shootings don’t pass my smell test. I hope I am wrong.

Grim Chieftain

(1,735 posts)
5. There are no words...
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:02 PM
Nov 2025

I am absolutely heartbroken. These guardsmen only doing their duty, serving this country, lost their lives, while the evil, criminal felon lives a life of privilege. I don't believe in anything anymore.

SamuelTheThird

(1,152 posts)
7. 'serving the country'???
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:07 PM
Nov 2025

They were serving Trump's fascist agenda. Not saying this is a reasonable response obviously, but they weren't there doing good , either. Trump is happy about this at any rate.

Grim Chieftain

(1,735 posts)
11. How do you know when they signed up?
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:10 PM
Nov 2025

They may have signed up under Biden or Obama! You need to get a grip.

SamuelTheThird

(1,152 posts)
12. That's irrelevant
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:13 PM
Nov 2025

They weren't there 'serving the country'.

Sorry, I don't believe these bullshit platitudes should be covering up reality.

Grim Chieftain

(1,735 posts)
15. My husband was a headquarters company commander in the National Guard
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:19 PM
Nov 2025

And my brother was an MP officer in the guard. They served This Country. Your hatred and vitriol is out of bounds.

SamuelTheThird

(1,152 posts)
17. I think your emotions are blinding you
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:23 PM
Nov 2025

In no way can being a pawn in Trump's agenda be construed as 'serving the country.' Period.

roscoeroscoe

(1,825 posts)
31. Cool down there, yo
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:56 PM
Nov 2025

These Guardsmen, like me, joined to serve America. Point your finger at the civilian leaders, not the Soldiers. Please don't lose track of who gave the order to send these Soldiers to Washington DC.

I deployed to Iraq even though I knew it was an awful farce. But, the civilian leadership of the day made it happen.

haele

(15,399 posts)
24. They didn't sign up to be in DC supporting ICE.
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:35 PM
Nov 2025

They signed up to help their communities and state, for the training and GI Bill so they can improve their chances for education, jobs, or to eventually get a home, and finally, for truck and beer money.
The West Virginia Governor put them there.

SamuelTheThird

(1,152 posts)
26. Irrelevant to what I typed
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:37 PM
Nov 2025

I'd just add that military from West VA are majority trumpers.

johnp3907

(4,307 posts)
6. Killed by Trump.
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:05 PM
Nov 2025

Didn't he say he could shoot somone on Pennsylvania avenue or something like that?

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
8. Pedonald in NOT responsible for their deaths, the shooter is,
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:07 PM
Nov 2025

Pedonald is responsible for them being there in the first place.

SamuelTheThird

(1,152 posts)
13. Of course Trump is responsible
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:15 PM
Nov 2025

Putting troops where they are not needed coupled with all his other Fascist moves is provocation. Let's be real here, this is what they wanted to happen.

At minimum, it was designed to get people acclimated to having fucking military on the streets (in preparation for stealing the election).

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
14. No, the shooter is responsible for their deaths,
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:16 PM
Nov 2025

Pedonald is responsible for them being there.
Full stop.

SamuelTheThird

(1,152 posts)
21. If Trump (as some prominent dems have said) uses troops to interfere with the election
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:29 PM
Nov 2025

And someone fights back, what will you say then? The brave troops were doing their god-given duty?

It helps to think ahead and see the broader picture.

This is trump's doing.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
22. The law says different.
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:32 PM
Nov 2025

I'm not going to argue with you about this, the law is the law and the law will prosecute the person, if they're still alive, not Pedonald.

SamuelTheThird

(1,152 posts)
23. lol the law
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:34 PM
Nov 2025

Trump tried to OVERTHROW the government, violently on Jan 6. Now HE is sending troops to fulfill HIS agenda.

If you can't see his responsibility I don't know what else to tell you

Who gives a shit about the law when someone is lawless and not held to account?

yaesu

(9,327 posts)
16. All the guards are sent by red states, whether they like it or not
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:22 PM
Nov 2025

They are seen as an invasion force from a foreign country which will bring out the worst in people.

regnaD kciN

(27,639 posts)
28. Apparently, this is NOT true...
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:39 PM
Nov 2025

The WV governor who announced their deaths has now walked it back, citing “conflicting information.”

avebury

(11,196 posts)
29. An update on the WBOY West Virigina station stated
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:41 PM
Nov 2025

that the Governor has now said that he has received conflicting information.

https://www.wboy.com/emergencies/gov-morrisey-confirms-two-wv-national-guard-members-dead-in-dc-shooting/

UPDATE, 4:15 p.m.: West Virginia Governor Patrick Morrisey has released another statement saying that he is now receiving conflicting reports on the condition of the two West Virginia National Guard that were shot in Washington DC.

Lovie777

(22,971 posts)
30. The Republican Party is whack......
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:49 PM
Nov 2025

They immediately came out re killings. It appears to be a lie.

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