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Tribetime

(7,002 posts)
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 07:11 PM Sunday

So they blame President Biden for their decision to

Grant asylum for the shooter. That the information gathered was wrong......So if they think President Biden was the worst ever why did they trust his information. I'm so sick of them blaming everyone else while the press lets them.

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Norrrm

(3,647 posts)
1. To conservatives/republicans, personal responsibility means finding some other person to blame.
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 07:19 PM
Sunday

Leghorn21

(14,003 posts)
2. This just in: President Biden *also* set up President Juan Orlando Hernndez, who knew??!
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 07:27 PM
Sunday

Reporter: You have made so clear how you want to keep drugs out of the US—

Trump: Right

Reporter: Can you explain why you would pardon a notorious drug trafficker?

Trump: If somebody sells drugs in that country, that doesn’t mean you arrest the president

Acyn (@acyn.bsky.social) 2025-11-30T23:16:55.102Z

Wiz Imp

(8,453 posts)
3. Well, this proves Trump is guilty of drug trafficking as well
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 08:19 PM
Sunday

We know for a fact that Trump is guilty of the exact same tactics that Hernandez was. That answer was yet another confession.

From Wikipedia:

Hernández was identified as a co-conspirator in a drug trafficking and money laundering case against his brother, according to document filed in U.S. district court. Prosecutors allege $1.5 million in drug proceeds were used to help elect him in 2013. Hernández responded saying he is a foe of traffickers who are out for revenge against him.

A document released by a U.S. district court implicates President Hernández in a conspiracy with his brother, Antonio "Tony" Hernández, and other high-level officials — including his presidential predecessor Porfirio Lobo Sosa — "to leverage drug trafficking to maintain and enhance their political power." Tony Hernández was sentenced to life in prison in January 2021 following his conviction on numerous charges related to his work in drug trafficking.

The 44-page document – which is related to the trial of Tony Hernández in New York's Southern District on drug trafficking and other charges – summarizes some of the key evidence collected by prosecutors against the defendant, who they accuse of being a “violent, multi-ton drug trafficker” who allegedly abused his political connections for personal and political gain and at least twice “helped arrange murders of drug trafficking rivals.”

On 21 April Hernández was extradited to the United States. The United States District Court for the Southern District of New York unsealed their indictment, charging him with conspiracy to import cocaine to the United States (21 U.S.C. § 963), as well as firearms charges (under 18 U.S.C. § 924).

The United States specifically charged Hernández with accepting millions of dollars in bribes from narcotraffickers since 2004, and in particular the Sinaloa Cartel, led at the time by Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán, since 2012. The indictment states that Tony Hernández collected the bribes using men armed with machine guns; in exchange, Juan Orlando Hernández conspired to protect smugglers from investigation and arrest, specifically providing "access to law enforcement and military information, including data from flight radar in Honduras."


AZJonnie

(2,483 posts)
10. So I guess this means you don't want to arrest Maduro, correct, Mr. President?
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 01:07 AM
Monday

A reporter snappy with good comebacks would've been great there.

Also, he's such a gaslighting, lying piece of fucking dogshit. He didn't LOOK AT SHIT, he was told to pardon this fuckhead, so he did.

usonian

(22,862 posts)
4. Posted by another DU'er
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 08:34 PM
Sunday


I'd give credit but most titles are kind of meaningless.
THANK YOU ANYWAY!

And contrats on 7000 posts!!!

Orrex

(66,502 posts)
6. His fuckhead KKKultists are still mad about Jane Fonda
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 09:07 PM
Sunday

The last thing they want is facts.

surfered

(10,635 posts)
5. This!
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 08:55 PM
Sunday

Adam Kinzinger posted on X (formerly Twitter) that in 2021, “almost every Republican” criticised the Biden administration and State Department for being “too slow” in “approving Afghanistan special visas” as Afghanistan fell, pointing out that they are now attacking Biden for doing exactly what they had previously urged him to do.

https://www.themarysue.com/lies-and-gaslighting-adam-kinzinger-is-not-letting-trump-get-away-with-blaming-biden-for-the-recent-national-guard-shooting/

rickyhall

(5,503 posts)
9. Funny That: President Bush didn't have a problem arresting Manuel Noriega, but Trump would've liked the evil dictator.
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 10:07 PM
Sunday

Torchlight

(6,205 posts)
11. It's gotta be tough job to carry water for trump these days
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 08:52 AM
Monday

It's tough to spin anything he does as actually positive or good for the nation, so instead his sealions and troll-base just point blame at previous administrations for cover while they keep ducking up.

LetMyPeopleVote

(173,536 posts)
12. MaddowBlog-Trump to add notorious Honduran drug trafficker to his list of scandalous pardons
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:03 PM
Tuesday

Last edited Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:34 PM - Edit history (2)

If the president believes the U.S. is at war with drug traffickers, why does he want to pardon Juan Orlando Hernández?

On the Juan Orlando Hernández pardon, a Trump insider conceded, “How we justify this is really hard.”

And yet, Trump did it anyway. www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-12-02T18:22:53.716Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-to-add-notorious-honduran-drug-trafficker-to-his-list-of-scandalous-pardons

For those unfamiliar with Hernández, this might not have seemed especially notable, but consider this striking summary published by The New York Times:

He once boasted that he would ‘stuff the drugs up the gringos’ noses.’ He accepted a $1 million bribe from El Chapo to allow cocaine shipments to pass through Honduras. A man was killed in prison to protect him. At the federal trial of Juan Orlando Hernández in New York, testimony and evidence showed how the former president maintained Honduras as a bastion of the global drug trade. He orchestrated a vast trafficking conspiracy that prosecutors said raked in millions for cartels while keeping Honduras one of Central America’s poorest, most violent and most corrupt countries.


Hernández was convicted last year in a sweeping drug-trafficking case and sentenced to 45 years in prison. Trump, however, is undoing all of that — to the great surprise of both Hondurans and U.S. officials who’d invested enormous resources in building a successful case against the former leader.

If the Republican follows through on his announcement, the result will reinforce a ridiculous dynamic, even by 2025 standards: While Trump and his administration claim that the U.S. is engaged in a literal armed conflict against foreign drug traffickers, the American president has vowed to pardon a notorious foreign drug trafficker.

Reporter: You have made so clear how you want to keep drugs out of the US—

Trump: Right

Reporter: Can you explain why you would pardon a notorious drug trafficker?

Trump: If somebody sells drugs in that country, that doesn’t mean you arrest the president

Acyn (@acyn.bsky.social) 2025-11-30T23:16:55.102Z


...I’m mindful that the American president’s pardon pen has been getting a workout in recent weeks. We’ve seen Trump extend clemency to, among others, the spouse of a congressional loyalist; those who helped him try to overturn the 2020 election results; some Jan. 6 rioters who apparently needed a re-pardon; nursing home magnate Joseph Schwartz, who paid lobbyists almost $1 million in the hopes of receiving presidential clemency; and the man who helped finance the president’s stablecoin and put money in the Trump family’s pockets.

But just when it seemed the list couldn’t get more outlandish, the Republican incumbent made matters even worse the day after Thanksgiving.
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