This is the proportion of territory Ukraine is being asked to give up (not actual size):

[applegrove]

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— Jon Cooper (@joncooper-us.bsky.social) 2025-12-01T14:34:14.953Z

[Turbineguy]

1. Compromise

Give Putin Florida.

[Conjuay]

5. that's right, comrade, Florida will take one for the team.

especially if we get rid of desantis.

[twodogsbarking]

7. for you

[rubbersole]

16. No we won't!

I'd be OK if they took the west coast, except the part of Tampa that has their professional sports teams. Looking at a red/blue political map you'd think Florida was all Hicksville except for the larger cities. Well, yep.

[Tommy Carcetti]

10. Groan. nt

[rubbersole]

17. Ouch.

Desantis has already given him our schools.

[sl8]

2. By percentages, maybe, but by actual area the two aren't even close.

The scale of the two images is vastly different; the whole of Ukraine is smaller than Texas.

As written, that post is very misleading.

[applegrove]

4. I'll update the op.

[twodogsbarking]

8. Percentages are often misleading, on purpose at times. A 50% increase in a disease could be from five to ten or

from five million to ten million. Good point.

[JoseBalow]

12. Those are 100% increases

But I understand your point.

[twodogsbarking]

14. Foolish me. So a one hundred percent increase could be five or five million. Thanks.

[progree]

15. Actual Sizes: Venezuela, Texas, Ukraine, Oklahoma (to pick 2 countries in the news and compare them

to Texas and Oklahoma) --

You got me curious; I was surprised to learn that Ukraine is smaller than Texas. Sure enough:

Areas in square miles:
Venezuela: 353,841
Texas 268,597
Ukraine 233,031
Oklahoma: 69,895

So Venezuela is 1.04 times the size of Texas + Oklahoma combined

Texas is 1.15 times the size of Ukraine

[Torchlight]

3. Mr. trump really enjoys appeasing Putin.

I'm kinda surprised he's not offering Putin half of the country while trump takes the other half and wipes the mayo/catsup combo off his chin. Call it the Molotov-Ribbentrop Act (v. 2) just for kicks.

[Mr.Bee]

6. Of Course!

It's clear shot to their warm-water submarine base, and plenty of real estate for for shops, basses, and barracks.
That's what it's all about!

[erronis]

9. Hey - keep the east coast out of it! The mid-west and south will welcome putin.

[Bayard]

11. They're not being asked

Its being demanded, and threatened for non-compliance. As the EU said earlier, "Borders cannot be changed by force."

[BurnDoubt]

13. Fuck No!!!!!

Instead… Para-drop Kraznov and ALL Republicans into the conflict line and let them see how Brave they are. Then raid their finances and buy hot meals for the victims of this War Crime.

[electric_blue68]

18. NO Way! NO How! Slava Ukraini! 🌻🇺🇦🌻

[LetMyPeopleVote]

19. Thank you for posting this

[Wanderlust988]

20. I have a friend in Kyiv and he considers eastern Ukraine like we consider the southern states

Backwards hicks that love Russia. He has no love for that part of Ukraine and just assume let it go for peace. He said it was like asking us to get rid of TX, AR, MS, AL, OK for peace. Most of us would say yes!

I have no idea if his attitude is common among the people. I'm no expert on the matter. I thought I'd share what someone told me in Ukraine.

I think Putin is asking for more land, so that's a no-go.

[applegrove]

21. It is the industrial heartland of Ukraine.

[Emrys]

22. It was also an area whose population voted overwhelmingly for independence from Russia

during the last (and only reliable) referendum before Ukraine split from the ex-empire. Ethnic cleansing has no doubt changed those totals by now, but people in those areas have not been faring well under the Russian regime.

[Emrys]

23. The constant obsession with simplistic estimates of acreage is typical when so many real estate hoodlums are involved

on the US side, but glosses over the value of those areas, the fact they include people, the resources they contain and facilities they do and once did, their strategic value (some of what Trump blithely expects the Ukrainians to cede includes key defensive infrastructure that's taken years to construct), and just what it means to "take", "control" and "occupy" land.

Russia's hold on most of those areas is shaky, and the scant gains in the last three years condensed and glossed into convenient media-friendly maps include areas where the Russian side's hold is tenuous at best. And as for the physical state of these areas, well ...

Gains trumpeted in recent times have included villages and towns where Russian troops have been sent on suicide missions to dash up to a prominent building and plant a flag on top for the cameras. They and the flags have tended not to last long. Right now, Putin's claiming to have finally "taken control" of Pokrovsk and Vovchansk, which is news to the Ukrainians.

The Russian troops on the fronts also have a habit of claiming gains where there are none. There have been internal ructions when embattled "leaders" on the ground have lied to their superiors about taking some settlements, delivering follow-up waves of troops into death traps.