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RoeVWade

(889 posts)
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 11:44 AM Dec 2025

Democrats can't endorse "vigilantism" even if we sometimes think it's deserved.

You can hope for it or dream about it sometimes, but don't actually literally endorse it unless you want to be like these Republicans saying whatever Hegseth might have done, those "terrorists" in the boats deserved it lawful or not.

It's the argument, that they are bad enough, we can ignore due process, or proper identification, or actually telling the American people the details of what happening. It's a horrible slippery slope. Who wants a man like Trump making those decisions, Not me!

Let's not go there with them.

That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.

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Democrats can't endorse "vigilantism" even if we sometimes think it's deserved. (Original Post) RoeVWade Dec 2025 OP
Fog of war. Make no mistake: the gloves are off. marble falls Dec 2025 #1
Respectfully, there is no real war here karynnj Dec 2025 #8
Give it a very little time. Kristal Nacht happened before a war. The Rischstadt fire happened befor the war. ... marble falls Dec 2025 #11
I never said not to fight these illegal actions karynnj Dec 2025 #15
Petitions and demonstrations are not enough. They are not going to a polite debate, whether we are or not. ... marble falls Dec 2025 #16
I agree, we don't need to degrade ourselves just because the Republicans are indulging in it Walleye Dec 2025 #2
Yeah, there is no "thought crime" so we can have "is he dead yet" thread, but these quite possibly illegal acts should RoeVWade Dec 2025 #5
We shouldn't listen to any of that. They have no moral authority. Walleye Dec 2025 #6
+100! marble falls Dec 2025 #12
I was expecting this to be about Luigi MichMan Dec 2025 #3
It's not? leftstreet Dec 2025 #4
Based on all the other comments, apparently not MichMan Dec 2025 #13
Make sure you understand the fight we're in. Happy Hoosier Dec 2025 #7
Agreed. EdmondDantes_ Dec 2025 #9
Every American soldier who enlisted to fight the Nazis felt that same thing. marble falls Dec 2025 #14
This is murder from kacekwl Dec 2025 #10
plenty of so-called progressives cheered that gun humping freak Mangione Skittles Dec 2025 #17
Is that your strawman on fire? Democrats do not endorse vigilantism. Maru Kitteh Dec 2025 #18

karynnj

(60,933 posts)
8. Respectfully, there is no real war here
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 12:23 PM
Dec 2025

If Trump and his administration is correct, these boats are involved in drug running. They are not a military threat to our forces. They could be stopped, investigated, and, if warranted arrested and tried.

If they are wrong, we blew up fishing boats.

When there is no war, no fear that you will be ambushed, could there really be fog of war. If there is any 'fog" it is of Hegseth's making.

marble falls

(71,766 posts)
11. Give it a very little time. Kristal Nacht happened before a war. The Rischstadt fire happened befor the war. ...
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 01:24 PM
Dec 2025

... interning and euthanasia of "defectives" and political "extremists" happened before the war.

So I guess you're right. Don't fight back before it's toooo late. A lot of folks, polite ones, will be surprised when their charm offensive melts in front of RWers who've made no secret of being ready to execute Democrats. RWers who are armed and ready to go to work.

karynnj

(60,933 posts)
15. I never said not to fight these illegal actions
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 01:41 PM
Dec 2025

As it was the video from Kelly and the others was well timed.

What I was saying is that they can not use fog of war, because the military asked to do these illegal things are not in fear of their lives. They probably are in fear of losing their careers and even imprisonment

marble falls

(71,766 posts)
16. Petitions and demonstrations are not enough. They are not going to a polite debate, whether we are or not. ...
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 01:50 PM
Dec 2025

... just because we aren't at war does not mean they aren't.

Walleye

(44,630 posts)
2. I agree, we don't need to degrade ourselves just because the Republicans are indulging in it
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 11:52 AM
Dec 2025

That’s what it does to us, not the other side. It’s how do we want to think of ourselves? Not how do we get back at them?

RoeVWade

(889 posts)
5. Yeah, there is no "thought crime" so we can have "is he dead yet" thread, but these quite possibly illegal acts should
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 12:08 PM
Dec 2025

not be given a pass. They're trying to drag us there with them with things like "what do you love killing people with drugs?" and so forth.

DON'T GO. Don't fall for the false guilt tripping.

Happy Hoosier

(9,526 posts)
7. Make sure you understand the fight we're in.
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 12:15 PM
Dec 2025

While I agree that we need to maintain some discipline and respect for process.

But make no mistake: our enemies know that this is their shot to permanently seize power, with the prospect for no meaningful challenge to their power for a generation. They will do WHATEVER they can get away with to make that happen.

While we maintain our integrity, we MUST be willing to get in the mud and fight. This is our last chance. Right now.

kacekwl

(9,114 posts)
10. This is murder from
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 12:27 PM
Dec 2025

the first boat hit to the last one. How can you argue the point. The 2 "survivors" were just blatant in our faces but all were murdered. All involved should be charged and convicted including trump.

Skittles

(171,463 posts)
17. plenty of so-called progressives cheered that gun humping freak Mangione
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 01:51 PM
Dec 2025

fucking disgusting

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