What Pete Hegseth and these other chest-thumpers don't seem to understand

[cyclonefence]

is that rules of engagement work both ways. Don't they see that if we start killing people who pose no threat--people who are drowning--we don't get to complain if *our servicepeople* are tortured, mistreated and killed when they are hors de combat?

Typical of conservatives, who are unable to imagine themselves in any situation other than what they imagine themselves to be.

Re-education camps for conservatives: force them to read novels.

[Irish_Dem]

1. Exactly the point I keep making. Hegseth is putting US troops in grave danger.

There will be no restraints now against them.

[SheltieLover]

2. Yes! Force them to read novels!

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Laws are for thee, not me, just doesn't fly in reality.

[lastlib]

14. Presupposes that MAGAts can read.....

...above a second-grade level......

A problematic supposition, IMHO.

[SheltieLover]

15. Yes, that is a big problem in magat land

[ananda]

16. I was more generous, had them at 5th grade level.

Maybe I was too generous.

[Traildogbob]

3. Most of them

Never serve or see combat. Graham damn sure knows the rules as a former JAG officer. Pretty fucking sure McCain explained to him while riding his coat tail what is unacceptable in war.
Don’t forget Trump fired top ranking officers in every branch as well as top ranking military Legal Officers.
The Coup is in full control, Miller ”Calling the Shots” literally. No powerful NATO will come to liberate us, until Trump goes full Hitler, I mean Miller does, and starts going after multiple countries.
Wait, Trump said that today, going after every country sending drugs.
Does he realize the amount of Meth being cooked by WNC cartels up in these mtns?

[Redleg]

4. Plus they are putting the troops into moral dilemmas

by giving unlawful orders and applying pressure for them to follow them without question. What ever happened to the notion of reciprocal oaths? You know, where a person takes an oath of service and their superiors take an oath not to put the person in a situation that might cause shame or loss of honor.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

5. So basically the exact thing our service members have faced since the Korean War?

Because most combatants we have faced since WW2 were pretty comfortable with torturing and killing our service members regardless of what we did.

[dpibel]

6. So you think Hegseth's got it right?

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

18. No

But lets not pretend American service members had a great likelihood of be treated well before this and it suddenly changed. They didn't.

[Bmoboy]

11. Slinking back to the lowest

For a brief moment, the concept of a compassionate victor seemed possible. Germany and Japan were rebuilt. Europe was rebuilt.

Now, mutually assured destruction is once again the dominant policy.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

19. 80 years ago

The vast majority of people who saw that are long dead. That world hasnt existed for a while.

[PatSeg]

7. Or at least make them watch some decent movies

about warfare and the military.

[liberalla]

8. Excellent point! And the re-education camps too!

For the ones who are 'way far gone'... maybe time in cult de-programming first, and then the re-education.

[kairos12]

9. Chickenhawks don't care.

[MLWR]

17. Exactly.

I don't know why anyone thinks that Krasnov and Hogsbreath give a shit about how our soldiers, those "suckers and losers," will be treated by other countries. Krasnov certainly doesn't and Hogsbreath appears to be cast from the same or a similar mold.

[Ray Bruns]

10. "is that rules of engagement work both ways"

I have been saying that since the beginning. One day, these chickens will come home to roost.

[OldBaldy1701E]

12. Oh, to hell with that!

Conservatives need to be put on th front line of their stupid dick wavings. Let them risk their own lives if they want to start shit with someone.

FAFO is a tough teacher.

[MLAA]

13. Fore me them to read anything other than a room of maga haters.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

20. Non military citizens as well.