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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'I didn't even know this type of attack existed': more than 200 women allege drugging by senior French civil servant
When Sylvie Delezenne, a marketing expert from Lille, was job-hunting in 2015, she was delighted to be contacted on LinkedIn by a human resources manager at the French culture ministry, inviting her to Paris for an interview.
It was my dream to work at the culture ministry, she said.
But instead of finding a job, Delezenne, 45, is now one of more than 240 women at the centre of a criminal investigation into the alleged drugging of women without their knowledge in a place they never expected to be targeted: a job interview.
An investigating judge is examining allegations that, over a nine-year period, dozens of women interviewed for jobs by a senior civil servant, Christian Nègre, were offered coffees or teas by him that had been mixed with a powerful and illegal diuretic, which he knew would make them need to urinate.
much more.....
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/nov/26/women-allege-drugging-by-senior-french-civil-servant
These women are waiting for a trial.
MLAA
(19,639 posts)Ritabert
(1,885 posts)It's gotten to where women must carry their own water or coffee and never let it out of their sight.
chowder66
(11,674 posts)Ritabert
(1,885 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(12,375 posts)A Water bottle left on her work desk.
MustLoveBeagles
(14,243 posts)AZJonnie
(2,489 posts)I wonder if the reason this hasn't gone to trial in so long is that there's just not quite a cut-and-dry law that applies to this case already on the books, because it's so odd nobody ever thought to legislate for it?
It seems like there would be laws against administering anyone any drug w/o their knowledge (outside of hospital emergency situations) he could be prosecuted for, at a minimum. It may qualify as an assault (it SHOULD, I just don't know it if would under French law), possibly even a sexual assault if prosecutors could prove this creep has a fetish around it, or the like.
Anyways, obviously one hopes justice prevails eventually, he definitely should pay for doing this, even if the outcome of causing someone to need to do something that they already do every day, multiple times a day may seem relatively mild, it's still a major violation of a women's bodily autonomy, and the descriptions of the actual situations the women were put in (in the article) sound potentially traumatizing.
One thing the story doesn't touch on was whether he also did the same to men who came in for interviews. Presumably not but this could be a key distinction between 'assault' and 'sexual assault' charges.
chowder66
(11,674 posts)snip
"Behind this promise of opportunity is actually an aggression by chemical submission."
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"Chemical submission consists of administering to a person, without his knowledge and often by cunning, a psychoactive substance (such as a diuretic, a sedative or a drug) in order to alter his discernment or control of his actions, in order to commit a rape or sexual assault against him. This practice is punishable by French law, which provides for up to 5 years in prison and a fine of 75,000 euros for the aggressor, with aggravated penalties if the victim is a minor or vulnerable."
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"Sylvie Delezenne is now awaiting the trial of the former HR manager of Rue de Valois, indicted for administering harmful substances, sexual assault, breach of privacy and illegal possession of substances".
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The article identifies Sylvie as being a disabled worker.
much more with more information.....
https://france3-regions.franceinfo.fr/hauts-de-france/nord-0/lille/temoignage-en-france-on-peut-faire-240-victimes-et-vivre-sa-vie-tranquillement-le-calvaire-de-sylvie-victime-de-soumission-chimique-par-un-haut-fonctionnaire-3258664.html
AZJonnie
(2,489 posts)"in order to commit a rape or sexual assault against him", but the article doesn't make the claim he was like barging into the bathroom, or had a camera in the bathroom or the like. It sounds like he just wanted to make women have to pee, which may or may not legally qualify as rape/sexual assault. It MAY if you could prove it's a sexual fetish the guy has, but the burden of proof and convincing a jury to rule it was could be tricky
chowder66
(11,674 posts)He kept logs and he was caught taking photos of women's legs that were colleagues. Nothing was done.
He used an illegal diuretic without them knowing and then isolated them from bathrooms. It was under the pretense of an interview.
This guy should be going down but the powers that be seem to want to wish it away.
I'm glad this story is making the rounds. Hopefully the pressure will build to get justice for these women.
canetoad
(19,946 posts)Of creeps like that, to see what's so fucking exceptional about them, that they can justify this disgusting behaviour. This one is no different to countless others.

chowder66
(11,674 posts)niyad
(128,989 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(12,375 posts)niyad
(128,989 posts)that deliberately ignore or cover such instances up, protecting themselves.
Clouds Passing
(6,707 posts)niyad
(128,989 posts)coworkers. JFC.
And this bastard is working in the private sector? Somebody needs to find out where and make it widely, publicly, known.
Warpy
(114,318 posts)but it's pretty well known in BDS< circles. Yes, nurses hear it all.
This guy's kink differs in that nhumiliation of women seems to be central to it, the way i is for rapists.
I hope he's too old to do this by the time he gets out of prison.
70sEraVet
(5,180 posts)I guess his method of getting that revenge was novel enough, that justice is slow in coming.
I say, if the courts don't know how to handle this case, lock him in a room with those 250 angry women.
(Completely unrelated, but i happened to be dealing with ONE angry woman right now, and its hell)