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Emrys

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Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:59 AM 12 hrs ago

Der Spiegel article: "We Must Not Leave Ukraine and Volodymyr Alone with These Guys"

DER SPIEGEL has obtained notes from a conference call involving EU leaders - including Germany's Friedrich Merz and France's Emmanuel Macron - showing just how little trust Europe has in Washington.

European heads of state and government are apparently deeply distrustful of the U.S. when it comes to peace negotiations with Russia and Ukraine. According to notes from a conference call obtained by DER SPIEGEL, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz and French President Emmanuel Macron used drastic words in a conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and several other top European politicians to warn that the U.S. could betray Ukraine and Europe.

“There is a chance that the US will betray Ukraine on territory without clarity on security guarantees,” Macron said according to the English language notes of the call that DER SPIEGEL has obtained. There is, he said, “a big danger” for Zelenskyy. Russia’s demands for territorial concessions are one of the most delicate points in the negotiations.

According to the notes, Merz said Zelenskyy must be “very careful” in the coming days. “They are playing games with both you and us,” Merz apparently said, likely in reference to the two U.S. negotiators Steve Witkoff, a real estate mogul, and Jared Kushner, U.S. President Donald Trump’s son-in-law.

These and other statements reproduced in the notes of the conversation illustrate the Europeans’ deep distrust of the two Trump confidants. While the Europeans have consistently praised Washington’s new peace initiative, the document shows that in addition to Merz and Macron, other participants in the call also do not trust the two U.S. emissaries.

https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/confidential-conference-on-ukraine-peace-we-must-not-leave-ukraine-and-volodymyr-alone-with-these-guys-a-a7b269ed-b6c2-4739-8e83-81552e097c14?sara_ref=re-so-app-sh


(Link now updated to Der Spiegel website, where the full article appears.)
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