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BREAKING: Election Advocates Demand Recount in Tennessee
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Election integrity advocates are demanding a hand recount in Tennessees 7th Congressional District after data shows more than 31,000 votes materialized after 99.4% of ballots were already counted.
At 99.4% reporting, Decision Desk HQ displayed 148,853 total votes. The final certified tally: 179,899.
The math doesnt work. The remaining 0.6% of precincts should have produced roughly 1,000 ballots not 31,000.
Republican Matt Van Epps was declared the winner over Democrat Aftyn Behn by approximately 15,700 votes. But without knowing how those late-arriving ballots broke, the true outcome remains uncertain.
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SSJVegeta
(2,135 posts)It is defined as part of the county. Some precincts can have 5 people. Some can have 5,000
Wiz Imp
(8,449 posts)to account for 17.2% of all of the votes. The average precinct size in the US is only 1,100 with the highest average precinct size in DC at 2,704.
SSJVegeta
(2,135 posts)There are going to be dramatically smaller precincts that will create a substantial imbalance between percentage of precincts and percentage of votes. They are not even remotely the same thing.
I'm not an expert by any means but have spent some time working for the registrar of voters. I can assure you that precincts are not even close to equal in population depending on where they are located. So trying to determine how many votes are left by percentage of precincts alone -without knowing where exactly they are, makes no sense.
Wiz Imp
(8,449 posts)in this district to account for 31,000 votes. In 2024, the most votes in a single precinct in that district was just over 4000. The total number of precincts in the district is just 230. That means, 0.6% of the precincts represents a single precinct.
Sorry, your speculation is easily proven wrong in this case.
Complete data by precinct available here: https://sos.tn.gov/elections/results#2025
SSJVegeta
(2,135 posts)Last edited Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:06 PM - Edit history (1)
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Math skills)
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mackdaddy
(1,917 posts)Don't know about any of the other things, but I would be asking questions too.
Somebody's numbers are off.
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SSJVegeta
(2,135 posts)And added 30,000 more votes after. Not that 99.4% of precincts were reporting. When I watched the vote counts, it was closer to 90% of precincts reporting (based on the county results I was following) even when the NYTimes had closer to 95% reporting.
Ddhq could have easily been wrong (and likely were) in their guesstimation of expected votes counted. But I promise you there were not 99.4% precincts reporting before those votes were added. I followed it closely and there were at least 50 precincts that were added at the last minute (or last 30 minutes) from various counties.
(There. That should make sense. Sorry for trying to do basic math in public. That was embarrassing).
Deminpenn
(17,221 posts)per precinct is around 1000.
Perhaps the dump was mailed in ballots that were reported after the in person votes plus stragglers.
Wiz Imp
(8,449 posts)on Tuesday when the results started coming in, that the mail-in ballots were counted first.
Also, you gotta figure that they wouldn't have called for a recount if there was a simple logical explanation for all those votes.
FBaggins
(28,606 posts)And DDHQ isn't evidence of anything (certianly not that 31k ballots were "late arriving"
cmmngrnd
(29 posts)The 31,000 vote jump was claimed by This Will Hold (TWH) and Decision Desk Headquarters (DDHQ) but they never put forth any evidence that it happened, or any explanation of why they claim it happened. Every graphic shown on their sites show vote totals contradicting their claim - no 31,000 vote jump.
Now these people are repeating the unverified 31k vote claim - still with no evidence - and claiming un-named election advocates are demanding a recount. If somebody was demanding a recount they would be named. It would be Marc Elias or the Tennessee Democratic party or some other named organization. By the way, whoever demands a recount in a race this far apart has to pay for it.
Whenever anybody says "they" are doing something without naming them, be suspicious. And use the same logic we use when Republicans claim antifa is a real organization -- they say it but can't name a single actual organization.
If somebody shows an actual jump of 31k votes (meaning documentation that at some point 94.6% of the vote was counted and the 100% vote was 31k higher) and names an actual organization that is on record as having filed for a recount I'll happily concede the point.
More detailed discussion in this thread.
Silent Type
(12,251 posts)Jack Valentino
(4,135 posts)Silent Type
(12,251 posts)Jack Valentino
(4,135 posts)gave us too much hope--- but the final election margin
in that +22 Trump district is still great news!
BUT---- I think the Republicans DESERVE to have
charges of "election fraud" SHOVED right into their maggot faces!
Silent Type
(12,251 posts)is reported. I do credit people who analyze this stuff. That will always be important. Though, dont care much for Greg Palasts semi-annual election fraud stuff.
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Chemical Bill
(3,009 posts)Do a hand counted recount. Oh, wait, that might prove them right....
iemanja
(57,224 posts)Over 9% is absurd. The result of these sorts of arguments is to discourage people from voting. When you tell everyone that any election Democrats lose is stolen, why should they vote at all?
This was a deep red district. Of course the Republican won. He was always going to win.
This isnt a news article, and it doesnt identify who the election advocates are.
Next theyll be bilking people out of money for a recount like Jill Stein did, only to keep the money when there was no recount.
Chemical Bill
(3,009 posts)discourages people from voting. I don't care if it doesn't change the outcome this time, I care if it changes the outcome next November.
I first saw this information in an email from Election Truth Alliance. If you want more information about who "election advocates" are, you might start there.
Jill Stein didn't prevent the recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania in 2016. Republicans did. The fact that recounts were not done does not support your arguments. Do you have a source for your information that Jill Stein kept the money?
Republicans stopped the recount in Miami Dade County in 2000. The recount done by the media consortium found that Gore won every statewide recount scenario. Yes, I believe your assertion that recounts rarely change the outcome by 0.5%. Do you not believe that Republicans cheat, and recounts might find more cheating than we can prove without recounts?
iemanja
(57,224 posts)of the fine print on her donation link. It said the money could go for a recount or other purposes. I remember posting here about it at the time. People gave sway their hard-earned money anyway.
Do you recall her giving back money? She didnt. There is your evidence.
I didnt give because 1) Jill Stein and 2) I try not to fall for cons.
Of course the FL case was egregious, but the margin there was minuscule, not 9%. SCOTUS stopped the recount in the entire state, not just Dade.
Chemical Bill
(3,009 posts)That the states took payments before starting the recounts. Then the GOP sued to stop recounts, were successful, and the states didn't give refunds. Interestingly, search engines don't give results from left wing media, so it's hard to source this.
But I found this:
2016 United States presidential election recounts - Wikipedia https://share.google/USm1P0fGFEM5faoU1
But this isn't about Jill Stein. This is about Republican cheating. I want to stop the gerrymandering, the purges, the bomb scares coming from Russia, the lack of voting machines in Democratic areas, and yes, the machine counts that are not verified by hand counts. Have you read Was The 2004 Presidential Election Stolen, by Freeman? You might want to.
KPN
(17,080 posts)greedy and/or brainless supporters unleashed on America.
Right or wrong, like it or not, eventually what goes around comes around.
H2O Man
(78,380 posts)They are snakes.
Jose Garcia
(3,397 posts)Boo1
(98 posts)that are always claiming they have proof that Kamala won 2024.
No better than Cyber Ninjas.
Even if everything they said was true. Do you really think it's evidence of a grand conspiracy to rig the election, or that Decision Desk had a bug in their precinct count?