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JohnnyRingo

(20,823 posts)
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:49 PM Dec 2025

I was wondering why that admiral so willingly showed the video to congress.

It obviously shows a murder in full detail. One that someone is ultimately responsible for.

Then I thought back to Hegseth saying kill them all. He seemed quite proud of the decision.
Then he learned that it was a very real war crime, one that will be over his head for life. He would not be able to leave the country lest he may be arrested.

So all of a sudden he changed it to claim the admiral in charge made the decision to kill them but he supported him fully.

When asked why he was watching the attack in real time and, as the commanding officer, didn't stop the 2nd strike, he said he didn't see the two survivors. That throws it back to the admiral again. Hegseth was told to produce the video and he stalled then refused.

Now Admiral Scapegoat himself brings it in for Congress to decide for themselves if Hegseth would have missed seeing those two survivors.
By all accounts he could not have missed it so the responsibility goes back up to Secretary Talk Show.

I think the best metaphor here is someone caught a hot potato.

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I was wondering why that admiral so willingly showed the video to congress. (Original Post) JohnnyRingo Dec 2025 OP
Someone, earlier today said the people conducting the bombing were in fear if they didn't kill the survivors. Srkdqltr Dec 2025 #1
None of their excuses make sense. yardwork Dec 2025 #2
They are morons. Srkdqltr Dec 2025 #3
I considered how they used multi million dollar missiles....... JohnnyRingo Dec 2025 #13
Prosecution is the only thing the military personnel involved have to fear. pat_k Dec 2025 #16
I just heard, getting gas at Sheetz, gab13by13 Dec 2025 #4
C.Y.A. markodochartaigh Dec 2025 #5
It's not "CYA" JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2025 #17
Wow. SSJVegeta Dec 2025 #6
The admiral needs to be seated next to Hegseth for -any- court martial. nt Shipwack Dec 2025 #8
Its weird. SSJVegeta Dec 2025 #9
Hosley resigned. Bradley should have have too. His pension was vested. nt SunSeeker Dec 2025 #12
JFC i just read the rest of his statement and he basically confesses to murder SSJVegeta Dec 2025 #14
They've come up with so many scenarios there's no credibility for any of them. Deuxcents Dec 2025 #7
Methinks the admiral decided he wasn't. . . DinahMoeHum Dec 2025 #10
Wow.. Thanks for your Cha Dec 2025 #11
Known colloquially as the Turd Toss. WheelWalker Dec 2025 #15

Srkdqltr

(9,681 posts)
1. Someone, earlier today said the people conducting the bombing were in fear if they didn't kill the survivors.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 10:01 PM
Dec 2025

Im not a war person but that didn't make any sense.
Didn't they use a drone? Or a high-powered several million dollar plane? How could they have been in danger from 2 guys in a sinking 🚢 boat?

yardwork

(69,272 posts)
2. None of their excuses make sense.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 10:29 PM
Dec 2025

Five year olds think of better excuses for stealing cookies than these murderous morons can think up.

JohnnyRingo

(20,823 posts)
13. I considered how they used multi million dollar missiles.......
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 09:56 AM
Dec 2025

...to kill a few bottom level drug traffickers.
Like if I were killing flies with a 12 gauge shotgun. I'd have to really hate flies.

pat_k

(13,220 posts)
16. Prosecution is the only thing the military personnel involved have to fear.
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 06:32 PM
Dec 2025

The reckoning may not come until the regime is ended with the impeachment and removal of Trump&Vance in 2027 or voted out in 2028, but it must come.

Never again can we allow the intolerable and immoral "let's just move forward" excuse for letting perpetrators off the hook.

It is all that "looking forward not back" by Democratic administrations that helped pave the road to our current hell.

gab13by13

(32,070 posts)
4. I just heard, getting gas at Sheetz,
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 10:47 PM
Dec 2025

the reason that Kegsbreath had to leave the attack video for an important meeting.

The meeting was extremely important to Kegsbreath, it was with James Beam and Jonathan Walker.

markodochartaigh

(5,458 posts)
5. C.Y.A.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 11:05 PM
Dec 2025

The admiral knows, even if he can't/won't admit the kind of people with whom he is involved. He doesn't want some AI, or otherwise altered, video coming out.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,667 posts)
17. It's not "CYA"
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 06:41 PM
Dec 2025

He might show that Hegseth knew about and approved the killing of shipwrecked people, but, he is still in the chain of command making this illegal decision. Maybe he and Pete can share a cell at Leavenworth, along with the pilot and shooter (maybe the same person?) who fired the weapon.

Nobody in the chain stood up and said "Oh, hell no!"

SSJVegeta

(2,780 posts)
6. Wow.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 11:19 PM
Dec 2025

This Admiral may very well know what he is doing, and could be aiming to get Hegseth court martialed.

He might slowly be realizing that Democratic veterans are not the only ones who could be called back to active duty. But he also might be realizing theres a higher likelihood if one commits war cries...

SSJVegeta

(2,780 posts)
9. Its weird.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 11:31 PM
Dec 2025

He ultimately has no power in this case outside of resigning. If he had resigned, he wouldn't be able to demonstrate something that has likely happened in other cases but wasnt puicized.
Despite what I said, I see your point and do not disagree. Though the value of his actions could earn him substantially less time.

SSJVegeta

(2,780 posts)
14. JFC i just read the rest of his statement and he basically confesses to murder
Fri Dec 5, 2025, 12:03 PM
Dec 2025

Seriously wtf is wrong with people??

Deuxcents

(26,579 posts)
7. They've come up with so many scenarios there's no credibility for any of them.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 11:20 PM
Dec 2025

How is it possible for anyone who survives a blown up boat to get on a cell phone or radio ? If it did happen, does anyone think maybe they were calling for help? Does anyone think they cared at all about the cargo while treading water next to a burning boat? None of this makes any sense except..
We are engaged in an illegal, aggressive activity in international waters and committing murder.

DinahMoeHum

(23,561 posts)
10. Methinks the admiral decided he wasn't. . .
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 11:41 PM
Dec 2025

. . .going to take the fall for Hogsbreath or Trump. If he goes down, he's taking them with him.

Just my 2 cents.

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