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BeyondGeography

(41,015 posts)
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 07:25 PM Dec 2025

Never Trumper Joe Walsh: "Any Democrat running for President in 2028 must pledge to tear down Trump's ballroom."

And Steve Schmidt spells out why this should be the single issue that unifies every part of the anti-Trump coalition:

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Never Trumper Joe Walsh: "Any Democrat running for President in 2028 must pledge to tear down Trump's ballroom." (Original Post) BeyondGeography Dec 2025 OP
Love it! calimary Dec 2025 #1
I've had this thought that every Democrat running in 2028 should treat the removal of Trump's idiotic ballroom as...... FadedMullet Dec 2025 #2
AND charge the costs back to Trump MurrayDelph Dec 2025 #42
Perfect. If he complains, tell him that, as a landlord himself, he should understand how this works. FadedMullet Dec 8 #47
I'd like to dig a 200 ft hole deep with the same width and length and just let it fall into the abyss. chouchou Dec 2025 #3
They'd have to first dig out the Epstein-esque sex dungeon that Trump is having built underneath it. LudwigPastorius Dec 2025 #37
Ah..Your words are logical and true. chouchou Dec 2025 #39
And pass laws to make sure no one person Red Mountain Dec 2025 #4
It's not a ballroom Mz Pip Dec 2025 #5
First we hold our equivalent of the Nuremberg trials there, then we tear it down. Gaugamela Dec 2025 #6
It's on my litmus test...along with four more justices. pecosbob Dec 2025 #7
I'm going to bet that it won't get built. tinrobot Dec 2025 #8
This reminds me of an old joke: what do tight pants and a cheap hotel have in common? CTyankee Dec 2025 #9
K&R UTUSN Dec 2025 #10
Yes! Ocelot II Dec 2025 #11
It should be torn down blubunyip Dec 2025 #28
I'm going to have to disagree. Xolodno Dec 2025 #12
I don't care if it's finished entierly Boo1 Dec 2025 #13
Finish it off modestly and call it Katcat Dec 2025 #14
Charge Trump and his "investors" for doing it and rebuilding the East Wing as it was. Emrys Dec 2025 #17
I agree, for different reasons. markodochartaigh Dec 2025 #19
Turn it into a museum and dedicate it We the People JCMach1 Dec 2025 #21
No, Fuck his vanity project fujiyamasan Dec 2025 #23
Agree blubunyip Dec 2025 #30
There will be a lot to undo. mdbl Dec 2025 #15
Doubt it'll be finished. Callie1979 Dec 2025 #16
Not just the ballroom LilElf70 Dec 2025 #18
And those corporations who paid to build it should be required to tear it down. Squaredeal Dec 2025 #20
they should be taxed. nt orleans Dec 2025 #36
+1000. Tear down the ballroom... Paladin Dec 2025 #22
While that would be a good symbolic message, there is so many more important and immediate Bev54 Dec 2025 #24
Yes. Everything he builds, should be torn down. rickford66 Dec 2025 #25
how stupifyingly infantile stopdiggin Dec 2025 #26
I regret that I have but one rec to give your post. RandomNumbers Dec 2025 #41
And unlike those things, it can be done and dusted quickly BeyondGeography Dec 2025 #44
by all means let us do bread and circuses stopdiggin Dec 2025 #45
ive been saying this for several weeks now . AllaN01Bear Dec 2025 #27
And remove moreland01 Dec 2025 #29
1st things 1st, get riid of that tacky garish "gold" crap Raine Dec 2025 #31
These people are idiots. BlueTsunami2018 Dec 2025 #32
Tear down the ballroom, rebuild the East Wing. . . DinahMoeHum Dec 2025 #33
And restore the Rose Garden and developing law regards how and when the WH, Capital Bldg etc get altered. marble falls Dec 2025 #34
I just hope he lives long enough to see his gilded ballroom razed to the ground. Midnight Writer Dec 2025 #35
If it ever gets built. Right now, it's rubble, like everything he touches. Joinfortmill Dec 2025 #38
Not necessarily the first priority RandomNumbers Dec 2025 #40
but of course! as PART of a long (and profoundly depressing, but crucially necessary) LIST ... stopdiggin Dec 2025 #46
I don't think we will have to worry, because I'm guessing that stupid ballroom is never going to get built. Initech Dec 2025 #43

FadedMullet

(857 posts)
2. I've had this thought that every Democrat running in 2028 should treat the removal of Trump's idiotic ballroom as......
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 07:41 PM
Dec 2025

.......a given, a no brainer. "Of course we're going to tear it down and rebuild the East Wing. That is a necessity expected by the American people and we will do it. Call it a symbol of all the other Trumpian idiocies that we will undertake to correct if you want, but starting on day one, any and all Democrats will se this as "Job #1".

MurrayDelph

(5,741 posts)
42. AND charge the costs back to Trump
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 12:31 PM
Dec 2025

since, as a tenant of the building, it was his responsibility for any damages to the property.

FadedMullet

(857 posts)
47. Perfect. If he complains, tell him that, as a landlord himself, he should understand how this works.
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 05:10 PM
Dec 8

chouchou

(3,075 posts)
3. I'd like to dig a 200 ft hole deep with the same width and length and just let it fall into the abyss.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 07:42 PM
Dec 2025

We wouldn't have to haul the disgusting thing away. Just plant grass over it..

LudwigPastorius

(14,563 posts)
37. They'd have to first dig out the Epstein-esque sex dungeon that Trump is having built underneath it.
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 01:54 AM
Dec 2025

You don't think those MAGA, high roller, big donors are going to fork over millions to Trump for just an evening of dancing, do you?

Mz Pip

(28,428 posts)
5. It's not a ballroom
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 07:59 PM
Dec 2025

It’s a f*cking throne room. Trump envisions himself swanning through the room, down a red carpet to the cheers and chants of his adoring minions.

tinrobot

(12,042 posts)
8. I'm going to bet that it won't get built.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 08:18 PM
Dec 2025

Or if it is built, it will be so shoddy it falls down on it's own.

CTyankee

(68,080 posts)
9. This reminds me of an old joke: what do tight pants and a cheap hotel have in common?
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 08:23 PM
Dec 2025

No ballroom!

Ocelot II

(130,205 posts)
11. Yes!
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 08:27 PM
Dec 2025

If it ever gets built - and I have my doubts - it's got to go. The WH already has a perfectly good ballroom that's been used for social events since the middle of the 19th century; the only reason Krasnov wants this monstrosity is so he can slap fake gold all over it and hold court like he was Louis XIV at Versailles, with an audience of oligarchs offering him tribute. Tear it down and hold an exorcism over the ground where it stood before rebuilding the East Wing.

Xolodno

(7,340 posts)
12. I'm going to have to disagree.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 08:36 PM
Dec 2025

For the same reason people say we should stop building HSR in California, its going to cost money to deconstruct what's there it and haul it away.

Furthermore, I don't think it will be finished in time and the next Democratic President can simply halt construction, finish it off more modestly as is and call it a day. They could even cordon off an area for offices.

Boo1

(293 posts)
13. I don't care if it's finished entierly
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 09:02 PM
Dec 2025

bulldozers don't cost that much. Knock it over and haul it away.

Same goes for everything else he builds in that time.

Katcat

(566 posts)
14. Finish it off modestly and call it
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 09:06 PM
Dec 2025

The Donald Trump Home For Kids and Women he has abused

Emrys

(9,078 posts)
17. Charge Trump and his "investors" for doing it and rebuilding the East Wing as it was.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 09:19 PM
Dec 2025

Or gut it and convert it into a prison for Trump and his accomplices with extensive displays setting out their crimes as a warning to current and future generations. Finance it by selling tickets so the public can tour it and point and laugh at the inmates or whatever else they want to do.

It needn't cost much. The decor could be very plain prison grey floor to ceiling, levels of comfort and cuisine could be as spartan as human rights laws allow, and no need for an exercise yard as there'd be no lifts or escalators.

And staff it with Somalis.

markodochartaigh

(5,409 posts)
19. I agree, for different reasons.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 09:34 PM
Dec 2025

I say leave the Epstein Ballroom up and turn into a museum of all of the abuses and corruption of the current regime. Other countries have kept such things as memorials so that their populations do not forget.

I absolutely believe that the US population will deny and forget everything within a decade.

JCMach1

(29,176 posts)
21. Turn it into a museum and dedicate it We the People
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 09:41 PM
Dec 2025

Museum and entrance for WH tours.

blubunyip

(277 posts)
30. Agree
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 10:20 PM
Dec 2025

Repurposing it is missing the point. It's an abomination, a hideous symbol of the way this administration has erased and destroyed so much that was good. If you let any part of it stand, it holds the taint of King Pedo and his big FU to the American people. It deserves total erasure. And then a new East Wing can be built.

LilElf70

(1,519 posts)
18. Not just the ballroom
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 09:30 PM
Dec 2025

ANYTHING he put his name on. Any racist rules he approved. IE MLK day at the parks, etc. The list goes on and on. Don't stop with just the ballroom. His name should never disgrace this country ever again.

Squaredeal

(715 posts)
20. And those corporations who paid to build it should be required to tear it down.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 09:38 PM
Dec 2025

This would tell the public how politically corrupt America corporations are.

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
22. +1000. Tear down the ballroom...
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 09:43 PM
Dec 2025

...get rid of all the ugly, cheap-looking gold decorations, and re-plant Jackie Kennedy's garden. Eliminate as much trump ugliness as possible, and let this wounded nation have a fresh start.

Bev54

(13,402 posts)
24. While that would be a good symbolic message, there is so many more important and immediate
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 09:58 PM
Dec 2025

steps to be taken to reverse Trump programs and executive orders.

rickford66

(6,058 posts)
25. Yes. Everything he builds, should be torn down.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 09:59 PM
Dec 2025

His name has to be removed from everything. All costs should be borne by the corporations and individuals who funded these un-American atrocities. Give him his 747 but remove the engines. Afterall, the aircraft at Presidential libraries are meant to be static displays.

stopdiggin

(15,334 posts)
26. how stupifyingly infantile
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 10:08 PM
Dec 2025

Because this is of course the single most overriding issue confronting a new administration ...

Deliver us ... !!

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RandomNumbers

(19,145 posts)
41. I regret that I have but one rec to give your post.
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 10:27 AM
Dec 2025

Much more succinct than mine.

But I do think removing the stupid ballroom is important - due to its symbolism - BUT it will be, if we're lucky, around #3,456 on the list of things to be fixed from this horrific time.

BeyondGeography

(41,015 posts)
44. And unlike those things, it can be done and dusted quickly
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 01:01 PM
Dec 2025

But since when didn’t Democrats turn a simple political proposition into a conundrum? The “ballroom” as presently conceived is an abomination that will dwarf the White House. It should be torn down even if it didn’t have Trump’s name on it. Tearing it down is more than just a simple physical act; it would symbolize a break with a horrid past and all its author stood for. And much would flow from that in terms of legislation and executive orders.

But no, say the “adults,” let’s focus uniquely on POLICY and nothing else. You know, bills that may or may not pass in a timely or desirable manner and the effects of which may or may not be felt in time for the next presidential election. Give folks that same-as-it-ever-was feeling with no tangible evidence to the contrary. Some people have learned absolutely nothing about politics in the last ten years.

stopdiggin

(15,334 posts)
45. by all means let us do bread and circuses
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 01:47 PM
Dec 2025
And Steve Schmidt spells out why this should be the single issue that unifies every part of the anti-Trump coalition:

I'm not saying the ball room should not be reduced, reversed, removed ... Whatsits ...
So much that the quote given above is ...
A most stunning example of ...

The appallingly facile. Appallingly stupid. In a word, juvenile - embarrassing, unworthy. And much like ... Oh, yeah .. ! That other thing / person ... That roils our stomach ...

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I understand what you say, old friend. It's just that I don't agree.

moreland01

(867 posts)
29. And remove
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 10:17 PM
Dec 2025

All trump portraits. Anything with his name or likeness, and that of his fetid family. Anything gold, gone. Anything that he added, gone. Anything that he removed gets put back. Fumigate the place..

BlueTsunami2018

(4,945 posts)
32. These people are idiots.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 10:51 PM
Dec 2025

He builds the stupid ballroom, so what? What real effect does that have on anything that actually matters? Most people have no idea that’s even happening.

You know what they do see? High prices at the supermarket and everywhere else. These idiotic tariffs. The fact that wages aren’t keeping up with inflation while some asshole is about to become a fucking trillionaire!

We’re fighting a class war. That’s what Democrats should be running on. That’s what they should be talking about nonstop.

Fuck these Republicans. They aren’t our friends.

DinahMoeHum

(23,544 posts)
33. Tear down the ballroom, rebuild the East Wing. . .
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 10:56 PM
Dec 2025

. . .and restore the Rose Garden back to its former glory.

marble falls

(71,623 posts)
34. And restore the Rose Garden and developing law regards how and when the WH, Capital Bldg etc get altered.
Sat Dec 6, 2025, 11:01 PM
Dec 2025

RandomNumbers

(19,145 posts)
40. Not necessarily the first priority
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 10:25 AM
Dec 2025

As ugly and horrible as it is - and YES, the process to remove this monument to horror MUST be put in motion - this is HARDLY the first thing a new US President will need to deal with.

If asked, I will be very happy for a Dem candidate to respond, "it will be on the list, for sure. But I can't promise WHERE on the list. There are many more harms that are more immediate for everyday Americans and safeguarding our future."

stopdiggin

(15,334 posts)
46. but of course! as PART of a long (and profoundly depressing, but crucially necessary) LIST ...
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 01:59 PM
Dec 2025

Starting with perhaps some oversight and restructure of ICE, HHS, Justice .... A reinstatement of science .. ? Supreme Court .. ?

Initech

(108,473 posts)
43. I don't think we will have to worry, because I'm guessing that stupid ballroom is never going to get built.
Sun Dec 7, 2025, 12:46 PM
Dec 2025

So instead we should pledge to restore the East Wing to its' former glory!

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